First grow/CFL stealth cab/Short Rider

sonar

sonar

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SmeLLyTreeZ said:
I don't mine at all, feel free to drop some pics in when every you want! They look really good man, they look similar but then again even the two I have look different lol..

You should get some y's and add 3 more cfl's :) Plus it will put them at a little bit of an angle and put off more light!
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Smelly's right they throw off the most light when the light is on its side, horizontal to the plant.
 
SirPsycho

SirPsycho

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your ladies look great man, keep it up!
SmeLLyTreeZ said:
Well week 7 has rolled around and I thought I noticed a little hair poking out but I could be wrong, nothing very noticeable.. I'm pretty much desperate at this point:?

Other than that, I've got the runoff down to 6.7-6.9ph so I don't think it can get any better than that. I just fed them 1 tablespoon per gallon big bloom and droopy took 2 cups, thirsty took 3!
The leaves that yellowed in the begining are gone and they don't seem to be yellowing so I've backed off on the fish emulsion. I'll probably go to 2 tablespoons of b/b for now until I get the Tiger bloom...

I just measured them and thirsty is 17" and Droopy is 16"..

Other than that things are looking pretty good, what do you guys think?

-Pic 1-5 Thirsty

-Pic 6-8 Droopy

-Pic 9 & 10 Comparing the two
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SirPsycho

SirPsycho

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they will not flower unless you switch to 12/12, doesn't matter if it's an auto-flower strain or not. the only way it'll auto-flower is if it's grown outside, not indoors.
you've been vegging that plant for 7 weeks you said? hope you have enough room for when you switch to flowering because it's going to double in growth fyi. i made that mistake in my first grow. i vegged for about a month and it was at about 2 1/2 feet, five weeks into flowering it was at 4 1/2 almost 5 feet. lucky me i had extra space at the time.

sonar said:
Yeah bro I was just going to say, if they haven't auto flowered by now, I doubt they will. Might be time to start thinking 12/12.
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harth234

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SirPsycho said:
they will not flower unless you switch to 12/12, doesn't matter if it's an auto-flower strain or not. the only way it'll auto-flower is if it's grown outside, not indoors.
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I've had my diesel ryders indoors for their entire life and they flowered under 18/6.
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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sonar said:
Yeah bro I was just going to say, if they haven't auto flowered by now, I doubt they will. Might be time to start thinking 12/12.
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Thanks sonar, I'm going to work on the cab today so I might start droping the lights back soon!

SirPsycho said:
your ladies look great man, keep it up!
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Thanks SirPsycho, I'll do my best!

SirPsycho said:
they will not flower unless you switch to 12/12, doesn't matter if it's an auto-flower strain or not. the only way it'll auto-flower is if it's grown outside, not indoors.
you've been vegging that plant for 7 weeks you said? hope you have enough room for when you switch to flowering because it's going to double in growth fyi. i made that mistake in my first grow. i vegged for about a month and it was at about 2 1/2 feet, five weeks into flowering it was at 4 1/2 almost 5 feet. lucky me i had extra space at the time.
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From what I've seen and read they will autoflower no matter what, "if there a stable auto.."

Actually Djruiners short riders just flowered at 2 weeks! I've heard many mixed reviews about this strain but I think your right about my specific plants as far as switching the lights because I'm pretty confident they should or would have shown by now..

Thanks for the heads up on them getting out of control, I'm am well aware of that and have 6+ feet to work with.. Thats one of the reasons I moved to the closet.

I also have 2 outdoor SR's that are 8 weeks in and still haven't shown sex, so I just think I was sent an unstable batch!!

+Rep for helping out and dropping in!

chainseeker said:
Auto's flower no matter what light schedule your on right?. Unless something goes wrong.
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You are right chain that is the purpose of auto's...
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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harth234 said:
Week 3 and i didnt do anything to make them flower.
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Harth just picked a stable strain so he didn't have to worry about it like I am lol.. If your looking for an auto I would not suggest getting SR just for the simple fact its so unstable..

there's nothing short about these, not showing any sighns of sex and its 7 weeks.. So pretty much everything Nirvana used to describe these I've proved wrong...
 
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harth234

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SmeLLyTreeZ said:
Harth just picked a stable strain so he didn't have to worry about it like I am lol.. If your looking for an auto I would not suggest getting SR just for the simple fact its so unstable..

there's nothing short about these, not showing any sighns of sex and its 7 weeks.. So pretty much everything Nirvana used to describe these I've proved wrong...
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Yeah when i first heard about autos i read that some are unstable so i only looked at Joint Doctor autos cus i knew i would be safe with the guy who created the lowryder.
 
SirPsycho

SirPsycho

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i see. i had a similar situation and my strains didn't start flowering either. i had cut a clone and grew it outside and it started to flower at the end of the 3rd week. thanks for letting me know about possible strains that are unstable, maybe that's what happened to me. thanks for the rep, it's greatly appreciated

SmeLLyTreeZ said:
Thanks sonar, I'm going to work on the cab today so I might start droping the lights back soon!



Thanks SirPsycho, I'll do my best!



From what I've seen and read they will autoflower no matter what, "if there a stable auto.."

Actually Djruiners short riders just flowered at 2 weeks! I've heard many mixed reviews about this strain but I think your right about my specific plants as far as switching the lights because I'm pretty confident they should or would have shown by now..

Thanks for the heads up on them getting out of control, I'm am well aware of that and have 6+ feet to work with.. Thats one of the reasons I moved to the closet.

I also have 2 outdoor SR's that are 8 weeks in and still haven't shown sex, so I just think I was sent an unstable batch!!

+Rep for helping out and dropping in!



You are right chain that is the purpose of auto's...
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masterchiefer10

masterchiefer10

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SmeLLyTreeZ said:
The 2 on the left in the last photo's are the indoor plants I'm doing I just threw the third one in for a little extra light. I believe they broke ground around the 25th so that would make them 5 days old in these pictures I'm about to throw up, 2 days old in those pictures above. The young ones have basically already caught up to the 2 outdoor that I germed on mothersday, They were two weeks old on friday from breaking ground. So here's a couple pics of a few things I've done to get the temps down and of the riders:hump:
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nice new grow man they look like their booming
 
djruiner

djruiner

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SirPsycho said:
they will not flower unless you switch to 12/12, doesn't matter if it's an auto-flower strain or not. the only way it'll auto-flower is if it's grown outside, not indoors.
you've been vegging that plant for 7 weeks you said? hope you have enough room for when you switch to flowering because it's going to double in growth fyi. i made that mistake in my first grow. i vegged for about a month and it was at about 2 1/2 feet, five weeks into flowering it was at 4 1/2 almost 5 feet. lucky me i had extra space at the time.
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see what i mean about bad info slipping through based on a single grow...my 2 week old plant thats grown indoors on a 20/4 cycle has sexed and is rapidly flowering...so your it only flowers in 12/12 is bogus...they wouldnt call it autoflowering if it didnt autoflower...the purpose of the strain.as it comes to those that dont autoflower..can be just that seed..or the growing environment.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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SmeLLyTreeZ said:
Actually Djruiners short riders just flowered at 2 weeks! I've heard many mixed reviews about this strain but I think your right about my specific plants as far as switching the lights because I'm pretty confident they should or would have shown by now..
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...you was close...my short rider got ripped up..its the diesel ryder thats flowering now at 2 weeks.the diesel ryder seems to be a stable strain...i fudged up its growth at first..but yeah flowered at 2 weeks..on a 20/4 cycle...no nutes at all yet..other than worm casting tea
 
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harth234

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djruiner said:
...you was close...my short rider got ripped up..its the diesel ryder thats flowering now at 2 weeks.the diesel ryder seems to be a stable strain...i fudged up its growth at first..but yeah flowered at 2 weeks..on a 20/4 cycle...no nutes at all yet..other than worm casting tea
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Yeah i love these diesel ryders theyre basically a way better version of the lowryder
 
sonar

sonar

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I don't think very many people heard of it, but Attitude carries an auto in their pick n mix called Low Girl from Advanced Seeds. It's pretty sweet I just got done growing it. I picked it a little early and it was still very potent. Just thought I'd let some of you auto fans know while you're on the subject of strains. Showed sex after about 2 1/2 weeks and started flowering hard shortly after. Worth checking out.
 
djruiner

djruiner

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i just ordered 4 strains from wwms.com...2 are dinafem...haze and roadrunner...both are autos...and at 30 bucks for a single seed they better kick ass...but these was freebies so not too worried.ive heard that the haze really kicks ass...they are also a lowryder cross...but tend to make much bigger plants and yields.i saw the low girl..but at the time figured since i had started 2 dwarfs id hold off on getting more small strains.also got some bubblelicious and papaya that im gonna do my first scrog grow with....but figured out my problem with the ones i just started....box temps over 100 and humidity at 30%...gonna take care of that before i start anymore...but its odd its that hot with only 4 lights and 3 fans
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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SirPsycho said:
i see. i had a similar situation and my strains didn't start flowering either. i had cut a clone and grew it outside and it started to flower at the end of the 3rd week. thanks for letting me know about possible strains that are unstable, maybe that's what happened to me. thanks for the rep, it's greatly appreciated
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Thats interesting, I'm gonna take a few clones off these too! No problem thats one of the things I've found out when reading about auto's around here, mostly short rider lol..

masterchiefer10 said:
nice new grow man they look like their booming
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Yea it seems like they are growing more everyday, I'm predicting 2 more inches on each plant before I switch to 12/12 next week!

I'm going to add grow big and big bloom mixed together tomorrow for there last nutes before flowering. I'm also going to take 1 maybe 2 clones off each just for the hell of it!

djruiner said:
i just ordered 4 strains from wwms.com...2 are dinafem...haze and roadrunner...both are autos...and at 30 bucks for a single seed they better kick ass...but these was freebies so not too worried.ive heard that the haze really kicks ass...they are also a lowryder cross...but tend to make much bigger plants and yields.i saw the low girl..but at the time figured since i had started 2 dwarfs id hold off on getting more small strains.also got some bubblelicious and papaya that im gonna do my first scrog grow with....but figured out my problem with the ones i just started....box temps over 100 and humidity at 30%...gonna take care of that before i start anymore...but its odd its that hot with only 4 lights and 3 fans
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Sounds like some good strains, that sucks about the short rider, I forgot you only had 1.

100 degree temps probably had something to do with it, whats the ambient temp in the room? When mine hit 92 over night they weren't very happy the next day. Thats when I moved them to the closet!
 
djruiner

djruiner

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SmeLLyTreeZ said:
100 degree temps probably had something to do with it, whats the ambient temp in the room? When mine hit 92 over night they weren't very happy the next day. Thats when I moved them to the closet!
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during the day its running about 90-92...the odd part is im 3 foot from the closet in my bedroom and its about 72 right now and the door is open....i switched up my lighting times...it was going to sleep at midnight to 4am...now its going to sleep at noon and back on at 4pm...so lights are off during the hottest part of the day.would have started it this way..but didnt think heat was going to be this much of an issue.ive also got a big ass box fan in front of the door..ive got to get a new fan next week then im going to put the old fan in the closet with it
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Yea thats what I had the most trouble with in my cab, heat.. Just like you I didn't expect it! That sounds about right ,you can probably get it to drop a little with more ventalation but with the ambient temp being 90-92 its going to be hard to get it where it needs to be. Maybe post up a few pics of your light setup if you want in here and get some suggestions.. Either way good luck!
 
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