first grow, 8 plants total, 3 fussy girls, pics

JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
Here are some pictures of my problem plants, each picture is repeated, once without flash then again with it to try and make things easier to see for everyone.

The first two pictures of plant 1, it seemed to have stalled for a while when the seed shell stuck tightly to the leaves but now it has sprouted out at an angle. Anything I should do to help that little girl out?

The third pic and the last pic are of the little tyke that hasn't done anything in weeks. You can see she's still green and sticking straight up but seems to have stunted. Anyone know why this happens?

The next six pictures are of plant 2 thats height is pretty comparable to the rest (except two that have really taken off). But it seems to be showing a slight yellowing (maybe the beginning of yellowing) and some curling UP (not down under) on the leaves. It is the only one doing this. What is causing it?

Added Info to help diagnose the issues... thanks obiwon :)
I'm using hempy bucket method. They are in solo cups with holes cut. 3 parts perlite, 1 part verm. Seeds were germ in a jiffy puck. I water, no, feed, no, feed, no... I'm currently only feeding with foxfarm grow big at 1/4 the strength. They are under 1 t5 light on 24 hours a day with the light about 8 inches away. The plants are three weeks old. Can't tell you exactly which strain it is... Anything else needed to help?
 

Attachments

O

obiwon

Member
u need to put some info down what is the medium what lights any info that pertains to your plants as far as eqiuipment and conditions will help with a diagnosis if put down all the info you can you will get help
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
I'm using hempy bucket method. They are in solo cups with holes cut. 3 parts perlite, 1 part verm. Seeds were germ in a jiffy puck. I water, no, feed, no, feed, no... I'm currently only feeding with foxfarm grow big at 1/4 the strength. They are under 1 t5 light on 24 hours a day with the light about 8 inches away. The plants are three weeks old. Can't tell you exactly which strain it is... Anything else needed to help?
 
O

obiwon

Member
ive never used t5s but ido know that if u have floresents u can get really close because florecents produce way less heat. so i might go from 8 in to 5-6 in and see what happens as long as the temp doesnt go above 80-85. but 75 is ideal as a generality some strains like high heat others dont . ive also never used fox farm but since i have done hydroponic such as ur doing i do know most liquid fertilizers(or at least botincare) u have suplement mico nutrents as well as macro n-p-k. and if mico nutrients are none exsistant than there is an inevidable stunted growth factor so like i said i dont know fox farm but i do know mico nutes are a must. i just went from deep water culture to hempy buckets and about a week out from starting so im new them as well, but instead of perlite vermiculite im using hydroton clay balls because of the reuse factor but if you come across any bits of knowalge regarding hempy buckets feel free to send them my way because ive never grown in a soild medium and am a little nervous. good luck and ill keep an eye on this thread cause i know what its like to try somthin new. mtfbwy
 
johnnycash

johnnycash

Active Member
Yes first piece of advise don't use coco unless your experienced, Too high of maintenance for this stage. Try using some Roots Organic Potting soil. It has Ph buffers already in it. All you need to do is water when they get dry. There are enough nutes to go 4-5 weeks with out you brewin things up. Life is GOOD! Your local store should carry some. Dont be cheep with the soil buying the wrong one will cause problems.
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
Still don't know why the leaves are curling up on my plant... or if I should assist the side winder... or if I should toss the little tyke......... Anyone out there have any ideas about my Plants. Please? :)
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
johnnycash said:
Yes first piece of advise don't use coco unless your experienced, Too high of maintenance for this stage. Try using some Roots Organic Potting soil. It has Ph buffers already in it. All you need to do is water when they get dry. There are enough nutes to go 4-5 weeks with out you brewin things up. Life is GOOD! Your local store should carry some. Dont be cheep with the soil buying the wrong one will cause problems.
Click to expand...
I'm not using coco. I don't want to use soil. I want to use the method I'm using. Hempy buckets.
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
obiwon said:
ive never used t5s but ido know that if u have floresents u can get really close because florecents produce way less heat. so i might go from 8 in to 5-6 in and see what happens as long as the temp doesnt go above 80-85. but 75 is ideal as a generality some strains like high heat others dont . ive also never used fox farm but since i have done hydroponic such as ur doing i do know most liquid fertilizers(or at least botincare) u have suplement mico nutrents as well as macro n-p-k. and if mico nutrients are none exsistant than there is an inevidable stunted growth factor so like i said i dont know fox farm but i do know mico nutes are a must. i just went from deep water culture to hempy buckets and about a week out from starting so im new them as well, but instead of perlite vermiculite im using hydroton clay balls because of the reuse factor but if you come across any bits of knowalge regarding hempy buckets feel free to send them my way because ive never grown in a soild medium and am a little nervous. good luck and ill keep an eye on this thread cause i know what its like to try somthin new. mtfbwy
Click to expand...
I noticed you mentioned the hydroton is resusable... I didn't know that. I did a little searching and found some info about cooking them in the oven to sterlize inbetween uses. Is that the method you are going to use between grows? If not, gimmie some more details. :) I originally didn't go with hydroton because it was much more expensive than perlite and verm were so I figured if I had to keep buying those supplies I would go the cheaper route. If I can reuse the hydroton though, that would surely be the more cost effective method. Can you give me more details on your hempy method obiwon? :)

And, my temps are reaching 80 to 85 even 90 a couple times. The only room option in my home I could make home for these girls share space with their brothers. (My penis envy mushies) It is, unfortunately, already the hottest room in my house... but its the only option. I just feel lucky to be able to give the babies their own room at all! I have been battling these temps for a couple weeks now and I plan on investing in (yet, another, heh) ac unit to dedicate to the room. My goal is to reach 75 and be able to maintain a temp close if not spot on to 75 degrees. F, of course.

If it was the temps would it only be causing an issue for the one plant, possibly?

There are 6 different strains in this grow of 8. 4 autos I ordered from attitude and 4 others a local grower took pity on me for 'buying' seeds and gave me a bag of what he grows. I know I've got god bud, the cheese, the church, and cloud 9. (My pity pack, haha) With four auto's, three lowryder #2's and a dinafem fruity. I made a classic newb mistake and after moving from their jiffy pucks into the solo cups I didn't pay attention to my placements and lost track of who was who... sad. I know. :( At any rate, I figure I will veg until I see the auto's show themselves and move on from there.
 
johnnycash

johnnycash

Active Member
Technically you are soil less. So that would put you in a higher maintenance watering cycle. Thats going to mean more risk of lock out if your not careful and a slim margin of error on watering. Its seems you are mixing verm and perl to get faster drainage. Thats cool but if your watering by hand in those cups it will be a lot of work to stay on top of. Might want to go the ebb and flow route for watering. As for nute problems they are easy to get on top of with your mix. Simply flush let dry and reintroduce nutes and 1/2 strength until healthy.

JulzStarz said:
I'm not using coco. I don't want to use soil. I want to use the method I'm using. Hempy buckets.
Click to expand...
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
johnnycash said:
Technically you are soil less. So that would put you in a higher maintenance watering cycle. Thats going to mean more risk of lock out if your not careful and a slim margin of error on watering. Its seems you are mixing verm and perl to get faster drainage. Thats cool but if your watering by hand in those cups it will be a lot of work to stay on top of. Might want to go the ebb and flow route for watering. As for nute problems they are easy to get on top of with your mix. Simply flush let dry and reintroduce nutes and 1/2 strength until healthy.
Click to expand...
I'm only using grow big at 1/4 the strength as it is. I follow this water cycle. Day1: water. Day2: no. Day3: feed. Day4: no. Day5: feed. Day6: no. Day7: water. And so on, and so forth... I don't find it to be a lot of work to, 'hand water' if you will, the 8 plants. I will research ebb and flow though to see if its something I wanna move to :) thanks for the suggestion! Any new info is always helpful. :) You mentioned a slim margin of error for my watering schedule. I actually read a lot of accounts where people said the water regimen doesn't have to be a tightly monitored aspect when using the hempy bucket method because of the drain off holes. I read about many people who never adjust ph and don't know the tds. They run tap water into their container, add nutes, and feed. Many proved with examples that they weren't experiencing any issues by taking such an approach. I have, however, adjusted for ph. But, I do not know my tds. I know I'm on city water. I have been using tap water, though. I fill a 5gal bucket with 3gals water and let sit over night (roughly 12 hours). The next day, in the morning, I add my nutes and mix well, allowing it to sit all day (roughly another 12 hours). Then, I use that water to do my feed which happens at night. I date the bucket and keep for no more than 7-10 days (depending on when I will need it for the schedule). If I have water left after 7 or 10 days have passed I simply dump that water out and make a new batch.

Hope this info helps! :) I don't wanna see my little yellowing girlie to get worse :( She can't die with no name! She's gotta mature so we can narrow down who she is! hehe
 
JulzStarz

JulzStarz

Member
Looked up the ebb and flow, or flood and drain, method. Came across the other similar option of a top feed drip system. I think I may just invest in building a top feed drip system for myself. I've only been looking around for info and equipment for this method for 10 or 15 mins but this looks like a cheap easy little kit to get me started:
http://www.dripdepot.com/123

The vacation kits look interesting too but the price jumps $50 :(
http://www.dripdepot.com/151

I will go back to my researching but in the mean time, any thoughts?
 
deprave

deprave

New Member
dude you look nothing like the chick in yet avatar ur a big phony


they look good man, transplant them into some organic soil mix and watch them take off...or whatever you are going to do they just need a good transplant
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top