First full on coco grow

Paratwice

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It’s a sup date. What’s up? Update. Yeah I’m corny for sure. Got plants into flower day#3. All looks well. Took advice watering one x a day still. Ppm’s always within 200 never more than 300 of the 800 I’m putting in. I have my auto fill valve tied into an to filter. My well water is only 30 ppm so the ro is kinda pointless? Anyways it diluted my Rez a bit each day and I think it’s helping to keep things in check. It only takes it 4 days before I re fill so it’s never diluted that much. Runoff ph was 5.6 now holding at 6.2. I figure I’m going to leaf/ prune day 7 and last time at day 14 other than a few “petered out leaves” that need removing here and there.
Still reading a lot but you all got the ball rolling for me and again....... I thank you. Feel free to add anything at all I should be thinking about cause chances are I may not be. I promise I won’t get defensive even if your busting my balls. ( I kinda deserve it). ✌✊❤
 
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k0rps said:
Nice setup! Looks clean :peace:
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Thank you I was thinking about stacking the watering to maybe get better penetration? I’m on two minutes a zone /day right now and the runoff rips through. I think I’m going to try one minute then 30 minutes later another minute and see what it looks like. Otherwise I guess I just keep going w the two minutes a day until something starts to change like runoff ppm rising abnormally high? My first coco grow so I’m a bit anxious. I know people water 2 or more x per day but I don’t wanna rush into it till the plants tell me. Thst sound about right iyo? Ty
 
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Paratwice said:
I know people water 2 or more x per day but I don’t wanna rush into it till the plants tell me. Thst sound about right iyo? Ty
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That sounds about right to me, and more or less depending on how much they're drinking. What size are your pots?
Ime, multiple feeds @ lower strength in root-bound pots worked well.
 
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k0rps said:
That sounds about right to me, and more or less depending on how much they're drinking. What size are your pots?
Ime, multiple feeds @ lower strength in root-bound pots worked well.
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3 gallon pots three full gallon that is. We are definitely not root bound yet. Sometimes I get concerned about overwatering typically when they’re ready for the cycle turn on we’re all pretty heavy. With the last time I skip the cycle the ppm of the runoff did go up.
 
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So things are rolling along nicely I checked runoff last night. I’m putting in 800 ppm at 5.8 ph and getting back 640 at 5.5 ph. So I assume it’s best to increase nute strength. Im thinking go up to 900? Or
I’m doing 2 minutes per zone. I could go down to one minute? There’s also some very light traces of salt on the surface of some sites which I find a bit confusing.
Anything experienced coco users might add would be extremely appreciated. I’m very grateful thus far for the advice I have received. Thanks really
 
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Oh yeah I’m using 20gph octo bubblers w drip rings so they are getting.66 gallons per day into a full 3 gallon pot. I just realized I may be stripping the nutes out of there running that much volume through. They are not pot bound yet. Still in week one of flower. I should really make a better effort to measure runoff. It’s probably way to high I just realized.
 
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BobThe420Builder said:
Stop stressing on runoff

Focus on in, not out

And you always want runnoff in Coco, 10-20%
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Okay that’s a relief to hear that. So no deficiencies and good strong growth I’ll just run w what I been doing unless I’ve a reason to do otherwise. It’s not broke so I won’t try and fixit. That’s where I get my shit all messed up lol.
Some of the tutorials I’ve read it seems people are really anal about checking run off regardless of having any strange symptoms.
 
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I’m running flora duo. Just the A & B and 2.5 ml /gal cal mag. My well water is 30 ppm. Coco is really an awesome medium. I hear a lot of people re-use their coco for a few grows as well. Anyways ✌And ty!
 
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@Paratwice Some people might argue the ec can't be lower coming out lol.

I've experienced low ec in the run off a number of times, in fact I'm dealing with it right now, 1.0 in 0.7 out for around a week so.

I've since given them a feed of 1.4ec and increased the ec to 1.2 but the ec is still coming out 0.2/3 points lower?

I've seen it enough times to know its not unusual, however I've never monitored it for the duration until now.

Are you dealing with low/lower temperatures by chance, the last two times its happened I've had less than ideal temps?
 
Creature1969

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Paratwice said:
I’m running flora duo. Just the A & B and 2.5 ml /gal cal mag. My well water is 30 ppm. Coco is really an awesome medium. I hear a lot of people re-use their coco for a few grows as well. Anyways ✌And ty!
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My coco is, on average, about 6 years old. Sometimes I chop/till what's in the pot, top it off and run with it. Other times it'll get chopped up, rinsed, tossed in a tote and hit hard with Cannazym to sit for 3 months. Mood depending. It also gets a soak in Calcium Nitrate before planting if it came from the tote. (I didn't do that once. Bad ju-ju!)
I can't say I have not had any issues but, I also can't place blame solely on the old coco since many a grow had zero problems.
When I started doing this, I fully expected diminishing returns with every grow but that never happened.
YMMV. Do what I do at your own risk. :bigjoint:
I use a LOT of Cannazym btw.
 
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Star Dog said:
@Paratwice Some people might argue the ec can't be lower coming out lol.

I've experienced low ec in the run off a number of times, in fact I'm dealing with it right now, 1.0 in 0.7 out for around a week so.

I've since given them a feed of 1.4ec and increased the ec to 1.2 but the ec is still coming out 0.2/3 points lower?

I've seen it enough times to know its not unusual, however I've never monitored it for the duration until now.

Are you dealing with low/lower temperatures by chance, the last two times its happened I've had less than ideal temps?
[/kind of crazy. Last night when I checked it out I was putting an 840 BPM‘s and getting back 520 lol! I bumped it up to 900 I and I split the two minute watering cycle into two one minute cycles and added a third one minute cycle because i think it was due. I’m interested to now to see what happens the pH is coming back the same which is nice. And I realize that none of this probably matters and if I never checked I’ve been on the wiser. Tinkering has gotten me into trouble in the past and but from the trouble I usually learn a thing or two. One of those things I learned it’s to stop tinkering LOL!
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Creature1969 said:
My coco is, on average, about 6 years old. Sometimes I chop/till what's in the pot, top it off and run with it. Other times it'll get chopped up, rinsed, tossed in a tote and hit hard with Cannazym to sit for 3 months. Mood depending. It also gets a soak in Calcium Nitrate before planting if it came from the tote. (I didn't do that once. Bad ju-ju!)
I can't say I have not had any issues but, I also can't place blame solely on the old coco since many a grow had zero problems.
When I started doing this, I fully expected diminishing returns with every grow but that never happened.
YMMV. Do what I do at your own risk. :bigjoint:
I use a LOT of Cannazym btw.
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And something I like to hear him. That was one of the things that attracted me. The other was being able to water and feed multiple times without starving the roots for o2. I will try and recycle some but not all as I am new to coco growing. Thanks so much for your input!!!
 
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6 YEARS wow! That’s some resilient stuff!! Pre buffer each time w cal nit I’ve read. A guy from jacks told me to do it 3 times and let it dry between applications. I would need look back to see what he recommended for amount of cal nit
 
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Star Dog said:
@Paratwice Some people might argue the ec can't be lower coming out lol.

I've experienced low ec in the run off a number of times, in fact I'm dealing with it right now, 1.0 in 0.7 out for around a week so.

I've since given them a feed of 1.4ec and increased the ec to 1.2 but the ec is still coming out 0.2/3 points lower?

I've seen it enough times to know its not unusual, however I've never monitored it for the duration until now.

Are you dealing with low/lower temperatures by chance, the last two times its happened I've had less than ideal temps?
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Oh yeah the temps, rh everything is right on. No environmental fluctuations so far
 
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Just to clarify some of several posts back where I think I first took offense to something I should not have. I should’ve explain myself rather than getting defensive. I referred to petered out leaves as leaves being he stuck under the canopy but have not been removed yet crinkly anemic looking leaves you know what I’m talking about or any leave for that matter that will not recover for one reason or another. So it’s kind of an umbrella term I use I went to lazy to be more specific. And the last sense where this happened I should’ve clarified And excepted the poster assessment of the leaves I was referring to exhibiting signs of nute burn. I should have not taken it in the defensive directions I took it. I realize petered out Lee it’s not a technical term and I respect The fact that it was pointed out to me really for my own benefit. I wanted to make sure I understood technically what goes on. I wanna clarify is all. ✌
I am looking forward to no hard feelings about anything and moving forward. I’m sure I’ve tried to say the same thing in previous posts I call this is the last you’ll hear me speak of it. ✊✌
 
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