First ever grow in a PCBox

CoolDudeStuff

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An auto-flower (from what i understand) is a plant that will go from veg to flower, without the need to change the light timings.
Mewk's right!! Plus, with autos you can harvest in about 2-3 months (from seed to bud) ,depending on the strain, and some of them (read strain's height in the seed's details) tend to be short from their nature, so its height will be a bit easier to handle in the PC box!
 

smatz

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Well mewks non autos didn't see to be overgrown, was that purely LST or did you top them at all?

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Kirkulese

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There are a lot of auto strains, most that are available now, that go from germ to harvest in <60 days. I feel these suit themselves strongly to pc grows, it would make it even easier you set it to 18-6 from the beginning train and prune as necessary and then 8 weeks later you have a nice 1-2 oz harvest.

The only downside to autos is the fact that you have to start each one from seed, which means it can get expensive but an easy way around this is to pick up either multiple seeds and breed them or just some colloidial (spelling?) silver and using it on one small lower branch to get some feminized auto pollen, I got mine for about 12 bucks shipped on amazon.
 

smatz

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I read on the UKCSC.co.uk website that an airflow on the actual plants(blowing them about a bit) will make the stem bigger? Would you reccomend putting a fan facing the actual plants with this? 'thigmomorphogenesis'

Picked up http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007T8TO9E/ref=ox_ya_os_product Which should be landing some point next week.

Also ordered my seeds, I went for Auto's for my first, I got a Royal Queen: Easy bud and Royal Queen:Quick One.

Iv'e read good things about these and for the size of my box I think they are decent.
 

smatz

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Ok so here's my 125w CFL light fitted in.
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It's in there, doesn't get too hot even after a while of being on which is good. It's not full lightproofed but I'll work more on that tomorrow.
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I have a few questions, I have this pot(thing) and was wondering weather it's any good for using as a pot at all? As there is no drainage points in it, but idk if you need them with pot?
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Also, we have some gerenal purpose compost outside, can i just use that on it's own? or do you mix that with soil? ^^

I'll also need help with how to plant them, putting them in the soil etc, germination really.
 

CoolDudeStuff

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First of all, what seedz did you stick with?

Bright light mate! Making a reflector would make things better in my opinion! It's perfect by itself, though!

Your stealth grow should be really lightproof! :mrgreen:

I would suggest buying or making a pot that's similar to the inside of your box.. It will take as much soil as possible. About 10-13 lt. I think! You will need one with drainage and if you can, drill more holes on the bottom for better drainage (if it doesn't have enough). I've put a leaf of a newspaper above the holes and then one layer with perlite (easy to find and cheap).

Then it's your soil:
You will need the simplest (without nutrients) soil you'll find. About 6.5 pH. So should be your water for watering (not for germination). For germination use simple plain water (if you do the towel method, or something like it.)
At first, you'll put it there (after germination) and in a small pot. This pot, can be either a plastic one, or a pot that lets roots pass through it, when long enough.. For the first one, you'll need to remove and transplant to your final pot. For the second one, though, you'll transplant with the pot, without the fear of somehow damaging her roots and shocking your lady.

You can mix your starting soil with a little compost, and some perlite too (perlite should be around 30-35% of your final soil for better aeriaton). You're set to go.

Germination, my method is the wet towel method. I'm too fucked up to explain what this is, please look it up on the net. Or on riu!!
You should find the first steps in there..
My suggestion is you do it cos personally I've had 100% success!! Just saying tho! :idea:

Strong start = Strong ladies!! (True for all the ladies!! :lol: )
I'm coming along!!
 

mewk69

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Well mewks non autos didn't see to be overgrown, was that purely LST or did you top them at all?
Both mate. It was 99% LST, but early on I tied her down a bit too viciously, and accidentally topped her in the process.

Also, I gotta agree with almost everything CoolDude's said... Tho I would add that if you're a cheapskate like me, you could possibly get away without worrying about the ph of the water, and the perlite in the soil. I use tapwater and bog-standard cheapo bags of compost from the local garden centre.

Definitely get a bigger pot tho, and you definitely need some drainage. I made an easy how-to somewhere, on converting cheap plastic window trays into pretty good pc pots. Let me know and I'll dig it up if you're interested.
 

smatz

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Both mate. It was 99% LST, but early on I tied her down a bit too viciously, and accidentally topped her in the process.

Also, I gotta agree with almost everything CoolDude's said... Tho I would add that if you're a cheapskate like me, you could possibly get away without worrying about the ph of the water, and the perlite in the soil. I use tapwater and bog-standard cheapo bags of compost from the local garden centre.

Definitely get a bigger pot tho, and you definitely need some drainage. I made an easy how-to somewhere, on converting cheap plastic window trays into pretty good pc pots. Let me know and I'll dig it up if you're interested.

Yeah a guide on drainage would be good, I'm out of budget for a while so I'm going to have to use Std water and compost for now



I got a RQ easy bud hoping the name helps me out ;)
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mewk69

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Well, dunno about a guide on drainage... But I drilled about 16 holes in my pot which covered the base of my pc... That's got a small 'tea-tray' under it (i think that may be a UK thing) essentially a small tray that covers the entirety of the base of the pc, under the pot. I pour water through until I see it coming through to the tray, then I cross my fingers that it doesn't overflow over the top of the, somewhat shallow, tray.
 

smatz

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OK, so Iv'e got some photos for you all, got my Light setup, drilled some holes in the only thing i could find for a pot, found another one to put underneath to stop water dribbling everywhere. More to come when it happens it seems!
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Lights huge, was bigger than i thought it was going to be, with the reflector it's awesome light, doesn't get hot either just a bit warm, Iv'e got a fan to cool it if needed anyway.

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this is the setup(My brother made this bong at school today, thought it was quite amusing. But as you can see, progression.

Iv'e been thinking about watering it with rain water? Using tap water atm.
 

smatz

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My new lights perfect for taking pictures of buds, thought i'd share this one i got last night
 

CoolDudeStuff

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Your big ass cfl is great!! Def what u need for a pc grow!

Don't forget: The bigger the pot, the bigger the roots (=most yield)!

Edit: Rain water is the best!!
That's a great bud!! bongsmilie
 

smatz

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Your big ass cfl is great!! Def what u need for a pc grow!

Don't forget: The bigger the pot, the bigger the roots (=most yield)!

Edit: Rain water is the best!!
That's a great bud!! bongsmilie

Sound, I'm gonna be using rainwater from now, theres an allotment at the end of my garden with a water butt, I'll pop down and grab some later on.

In other news... IT SPROUTED! :-P
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I'm going to be away from my baby Friday-Sunday, what should I do about the lights, I don't really want to rely on my brother, he's diabetic and falls asleep at odd times, can I leave it on for 3 days without problems?
 

CoolDudeStuff

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It's ok even if you leave it 24/0 during the whole grow (though I wouldn't recommend it!).
You can tell your brother to throw a lil bit o water every now and then!
Cheers!
 

smatz

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It's ok even if you leave it 24/0 during the whole grow (though I wouldn't recommend it!).
You can tell your brother to throw a lil bit o water every now and then!
Cheers!

Is not keeping it on 24/7 just so the light doesn't burn out or is there a biological reason?
 

mewk69

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Dude, I personally would be a bit worried about leaving that tiny plant under that massive cfl, 24/7 for 2-3 days without being able to keep a check on her. If it were me, and this is just me and my personal paranoia perhaps.. But I'd probably just put it up on the window shelf until I got home. Sure she might stretch out a bit, but you'll be repotting soon anyhows, so you can bury her deep again. At least that way you're not risking her getting fried under the light and not finding out until it's way too late.

That or by a $2 timer and be happy and safe.
 

smatz

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Dude, I personally would be a bit worried about leaving that tiny plant under that massive cfl, 24/7 for 2-3 days without being able to keep a check on her. If it were me, and this is just me and my personal paranoia perhaps.. But I'd probably just put it up on the window shelf until I got home. Sure she might stretch out a bit, but you'll be repotting soon anyhows, so you can bury her deep again. At least that way you're not risking her getting fried under the light and not finding out until it's way too late.

That or by a $2 timer and be happy and safe.

Cheers for the advice, does it matter if i turn them off on saturday daytime for 4/5 hours at some point? My bro just wont be able to keep up turning it off at 1am turning it on at 7am.

Going to get a timer soon!!
 

CoolDudeStuff

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Mewk's right. If you haven't turned it on for 24 hours without having temperature and humidity checked, you risk to fry it!
Dunno bout the 24/7 but it happens! :eyesmoke:
 
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