First ever grow, 400w veg 1000w flower 4 plant soil lst scrog

Thanks hb, the construction part was a lot of fun. So much reading, and searching, i built that room in my head a thousand times over, and made a lot of changes on the way, probably more to come. Well for sure once I harvest, i want to collect a few donations from meds to get a c02 setup. That will bring about changes for sure. Also just like you I want to swap out my 400mh for a 600. The numbers thing is what really screws with me, I'd like to get setup as efficient as possible and on like a 1 month perpetual, but for now I'll stick to learning to grow. After I do a few good soil harvest, I will definitely be trying hydro. hb, tonight my leaves are showing yellow patches throughout some entire leaves. They have had no flower nutes, and only 1 dose of veg nutes 2 waterings ago. Would this be a nitrogen deficiency? The soil is do for watering tomorrow, I was gonna give half strength flowering nutes, big bloom and tiger bloom per schedule. Is this what I should do? I'm getting ph calibration liquid for my hanna instruments ph probe tomorrow, so I can check water/nutes , soil, and runoff.

where on the plant? down low or up top?

Better if you can get a lights off pic. If your pH is way off, you could be locking something out, or it could be a cal/mg problem. N generally will show up on the lower leaves first.

You can use this to try to help identify problems:

Let me start by saying thanks hb for the chart and your time. So here are some pictures of the discoloration I was trying to explain.

Anyone who's with me up to this point who can contribute anything, feel free.

So I am guessing the discoloration and slight spotting is some sort of nutrient deficiency not an abundance. All PH levels check out fine. I think J should have started feeding the soil nutes a long time ago instead of relying on the nutes already in the Oceans Forrest. So I watered Wednesday with 2tsp/gal Grow Big, and again on Friday. Next watering will be plain water. There is no new discoloration or spotting, things seem to be going well, in fact I have flowers starting to appear! The soil is started to compact and is leaving roots exposed coming out of the top of the sides of the rockwool cubes. I covered them with dirt from the edge of the pot, I will get more soil this afternoon and put an inch more soil in each pot. I'm gonna continue with veg nutes for another week while the continue to stretch before switching to flower nutes. I'm still scrogging, I'll probably stop the training in the next couple days allowing for more vertical growth.

Got another bag of soil and raised the level of dirt in each pot. Hopefully I won't have to do this again before harvest, that was a pain the way they are all scrog'd down.

Next time I wont scrog them so short. I'll leave more space between the top of the buckets and the net. That way it'll be easier to water, add soil, cover roots, and do anything else I may need to do. Hopefully I'll never be having to cover roots again, I will always make sure to sink my plants low enough in their new pots during transplant to avoid this issue.

A shot of the canopy, the screen frame is 42" square. For next grow I think I'll get a 36x36" flood table in there, rigged on all four corners to accept an adjustable height scrog frame, which the legs will taper out to a 38 or 40" square frame with eye hooks to lace my strings. I think 42" is to big of a footprint for my reflector. I think a 38 or 40" screen will be best. And with the legs attached to the flood table if I bump the screen it wont really move, also it will be one collection tray to vacuum out instead of multiple, 4 in this case. Later tonight I am going yo bend and drill some flat stock I have and make L brackets to screw my scrog frame to the wall of the flower room so I don't end up bumping it harder than I have and cause limbs to break.

So here's the new water wand I'm putting together. The hose bib will go on my 5 gallon igloo, I can then fill the igloo prepare my water, open the hose bib on the igloo and then turn the flow on/off and control the volume with the ball valve on the wand. I can go straight down through the canopy or put a 45 or 90 on it and water from under the canopy. I'll be testing it out tomorrow, hopefully this works out well.

So here was the last moments of my scrog. The center of the canopy was growing taller faster than the outsides. I decided to scrap the net, so I could rotate the plants to where the taller growth was on the outside edges of the canopy. The plan now is to build another screen up high to support the flowers. I had lst'd my plants so much it probably wasn't really a true scrog anyway, although before I let them shoot up I was trainingshoots through different holes trying to get an even canopy spread.

Here is a picture of one of my ladies, pulled out of the flower cab and put in the lung room while I disassembled the scrog frame and cleaned out the solids built up in my collection trays. Man I wish I had a clue as to what I'm gonna harvest weight wise. I trimmed the bottom portion 2 plants really well, all the fan leaves and budsites that will lack any real light and final weight. I think! I hope I did a good job. I semi trimmed a 3rd and left the 4th natural, that way I can see first hand, the difference yield in weight, nug size and see if I did an efficient job of trimming or if I just robbed myself.

So here's my first photography attempt at some bud porn

Oh by the way, the homemade watering wand works really well!

That last phot is how they are sitting as of an hour ago. I don't think my reflector is putting enough light on the side edges of my canopy, so I hung an assortment of a chain and some washers zipp tied together on the side of my hood, then the other side. My idea of a light mover

So come guys, what do you think? This shit is so exciting, I can't really talk about it with people. Sometimes I feel all alone, lol. Really though, do they look good? Opinions....

They look great Joven. I think you made a good choice on removing the screen.

You may want to look into some stakes to help give them support since they will be big. Or I really like these things, you can get them from some Home Depot stores, let you still move the plants around but help with plant support when your packing on huge buds.

In action:

Thanks for the kind words and suggestion hb. If I cant find some metal rod laying around to bend and weld my own grow through supports then I will be at home depot this afternoon. I was a little scared the night I took the screen down, thought the girls may try to stand up straight. There were enough stakes holding branches down from the lst that it was not an issue. A couple of tops may have popped thier heads up a little higher than the rest.

The past two feedings were 1/2 strength ff tiger bloom and big bloom, then 1/4 strength of the same flowering nutes. Next will be straight water, then 1/2 strength, then 1/4, then back to water. I am planning on using sucanat (in replacement of unsulfered blackstrap molasses) and citric acid (to break the sugars down and make them comsumable to the ladies) during day 30-45. I need to re-read through subcool's
soo-ka-nat thread. Any tips or suggestions on that would be great! I'm on day 15 so I need to be ready to roll with the carbs in 2 weeks.

Exciting day in the garden!! First off, the new heater came in today. 120v 750w 6.3amp electric baseboard, by Cadet. It's a hardwired unit so I had to go to HD and get some EMT, an extension box, couple of handy box's w/covers some EMT connectors and some one hole straps. Glad I still had a few spools with some 12 gauge wire laying around. Came out super nice except I need a 120v line volt thermostat, so it's on a switch right now. I need to go turn it off right before sunrise. I'll have to order the right thermostat this morning.

Second: Tuesday I popped 7 sativa dominant Purple Diesel seeds from some fire. Homie and I picked up a 1/4 of that and a 1/4 of some dank ass indica. 1 nug from the purple diesel had 7 seeds and that was all that was there. I wanted an all female garden but this shit was bomb. So, that was Tuesday I put them in some root riot cubes in the humidity dome and whamo, I'm a new daddy again today to 4 beautiful seedlings. Hopefully the rest pop up within the next day or two. Then after vegging a month I'll mark them, clone them, and flower the clones to see what sex the plants are. If there are any males, a friend wants one to cross with something and any other males will be tossed clone and plant.


Third: flowers are getting a little bigger and things are just plain exciting!

Woke up this morning and looks like 5 seeds have sprouted!

I need to throw a couple of more straps on the EMT, and neatly secure the ac cord again. Next summer the 5,000 btu is coming out and something bigger is going in. During 100degree days that 5k btu can only cool the lung room by 10 degrees, and my canopy stays 4-5 degrees hotter than the temp in the lung room. So 100 degrees outside puts me @ 94-95 in the flower room. Not okay, thankfully I wasn't flowering yet during that heat, veg did get that hot, but the ladies did good and showed no signs of stress.


The heater worked great last night, even just on a switch without a thermostat. I think it got to 59F outside and never below 70 in the lung room. This morning my remote reader said the low got to 69 in the flower room even though the lung room never fell below 70. I hope this is enough heat. I just upgraded from a 600w space heater to the 750w baseboard. Maybe I should have got the 1000w, i was trying to save amperage, being the veg light is soon going from 400 to 600w. I can still switch to run my lights at night to produce more heat. I also still have enough power to run a 600w veg light and a 1000w heater. Hopefully this 750w is going to work out okay.

Well a lot has gone on in the past two and a half weeks. I had a caterpillar issue, got a 3w green led so that I could hunt while the lights are off. Also installed a 40w black flag bug zapper in the lung room.

I started using Sucanat (SUgarCAneNATural) in place of molasses.

I thought I was over watering, so I skipped 2 days instead of 1. Oh my gosh, all the leaves were drooped and all that was standing were skeleton looking nugs. Within an hour of watering everything looked back to normal! Turns out my water schedule was fine at skip a day.

Flowers are getting big, half way through week 5!

Here is a look at the veg cab. Yoda girl just got put into a 5 gal. A coupledays ago and is about to be transferred over to the flower room.