First ever grow, 400w veg 1000w flower 4 plant soil lst scrog

Lights went on September 17th
4 clones of Headband under 336 actual watts of 6500k cfl. Homemade hood with 8 42w 150 equivalents.

Clones were well rooted in rockwool cubes. When they went under the lights they were put into 1.5gallon halloween pails, in a FF Ocean Forest/Perlite mix, aprox 70/30.

Well, it won't load these photos from my phone. Maybe when I have some wifi available I can try again.

So here they are the morning after the rooted clones were placed in the 1.5 gal pails. On day two they were all looking a little away from death. I figured they had only had ph'd water at this point, and that the roots that were exposed to the soil hadn't started taking up nutrients yet. So I looked up the nute schedule for the FF liquid trio I'm using, grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom. Schedule said Big Bloom 6tsp/gal for seedlings and cuttings. So I mixed up a 3tsp/gal mixture of tap water and big bloom and poured some directly onto the rockwool cubes.i checked on them a couple hours later and they were perked up and happy! That will be the last time I would use nutes for over a month I believe. At this point I'm letting the soil alone feed the plants, watering with tap water every 2-4 days depending on temps and humidity. When I first started I didn't have a lung room with an ac to get the air ready to go into the box. It was just a 6" fan sucking air from outside through the box and into the garage.

2 weeks into veg the lighting was uped to 546 actual watts cfl. 3 weeks into veg on October 8th the cfls came out and a 6" 400w mh cool tube went in.

Oct 10th they were transplanted from the 1.5 gal pails to 3.5 gallon buckets. This would be exactly 2 weeks before flip to 12/12. Here is a look at the roots during transplant
Lights are on 18/6

Here they are probably at about 2 weeks after transplanting into 3.5 gallon buckets. I am taking bicycle spokes bending them in a long u shape and using them to stake down the plant and all the side branches. I let then grow up a couple inches then stake down the new growth and continue on. I read it is much easier to train a plant from seed, I believe this to be true as these cloned plants all have different shapes and numbers of branches. At this point i have a 10x10 room built out at my mmj grow location, inside that room is a 4x4' veg cab 4' tall, and a 5x5' flower cab 6'4" tall. A 6" closed loop lighting system: outside ==>400w mh cool tube ==couple bends as a light trap==1000w hps=====exhaust port / light trap with plenty of flow to outside. My 10x10 lung room has a 5,000 btu AC through the wall, a 600w cozy wall heater, both on Lux Win100 outlet thermostats. The room has a passive intake from outside. My vegbox has a passive intake from the lung room with a 4" inline fan on top sucking air from the lung room through the intake and exhausting it back into the lung room. This fan is on a 3amp variarc speed control, silent. I have that set to replace the air in the veg box every 5 minutes. The flower cab has another 4" fan on top pulling air from the lung room through the cab and exhausting it outside through a carbon filter. This is set to replace the air in the flower room every 1 minute, while at the same time this fan pulls air i to the lung room from outside replacing all the air in the whole room every 5-6 minutes or so.

I find clones to generally take less training/topping to get very bushy. That said, if you want to do mainlining, it seems like it would be much easier from seed.

I was reading about topping your way to a symetrical plant. Again, I've never done this before. A symetrical plant seems like it would be easier to maintain an even canopy. I have so much to learn though. I know I want an all female garden, clones ir feminized seed. I dont want to waste time and wattage, money, all that on growing plants to find out they are male. I tried to set myself up for the best possibilty of succes, with the best enviroment I could make. I'm going to look into the term mainlining now!

Here is a link to nugbuckets mainling thread.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-main-lining-thread.542308/

Just after the flip to 12/12. That is a little baby Master Yoda clone in there, under 400w all alone. I either need to get her company or grow her into a monster to fill up that 1k, what do you think guys, gals?

Thanks hb.

Here is how the girls sit as of last night. Lights are not on yet today. They had only tap water, which sat for min. of 4 hours before watering except the dose of Big Bloom as babies. Until 3 days before flip when they got a full dose of Grow big. They were flupped on Friday 10/24 from 400w mh @ 18/6 to 1000w hps @12/12. They got watered Saturday with straight tap. The soil will need to be watered again today. Schedule says 3tsp big bloom and 2 tsp tiger bloom. So las twatering was just water, so this watering I think I'll do half strength nutes, next watering full strength, then back to half. Soind good? Water, 1/2 strength, full strength, repeat.

Its Yoda, wouldn't you be going it into a Master, instead of a monster

You could grow it big and take a few clones, that way when ready to move into flowering you would have a bunch of little Jedi running in your veg tent

Lol! I want to start cloning. I have a humidity dome, with sorter trays, root riot cubes, clonex gel and some sort of something in a bottle to add to the water. Those 4 Headband were flipped on Friday, they have been on 12/12 for 4 days, if I took cuttings and did a decent job for a noob, do you think I would have any success rate? I hear it's harder to clone after the flip. Didn't clone them because I had that baby yoda and planned to get a few more but homie hasn't came through yet. He has a mother plant of the headband and yoda. Even though I am new and he offered I'd like my garden to sustain itself. Take some cuttings of the ladies in flower?

That way I can veg a few with the Yoda girl and then clone both strains later on in that veg, before the flip.

Go for it, I plan on taking clones about 2 weeks after flipping. 4 days is nothing really (particularly from seeds since they can take longer to transition). You success rate can go down, so just take a few extra. I want to take them late because I do not have a separate proper veg group, so if they take longer to root, that's better for me.


Also, looking at the clones you started from, it looks like they had been taken probably 1-2 weeks into flower as well.

Awesome, going for it. I need to go get a new pack of razor blades. I'm gonna take 8, 2 from each plant. Hopefully atleast 3 survive, any more and I'll pick the best and toss the rest, or maybe just do more plants this next run. I'll post some pictures of the cuttings I take later.

There is s pic of the original cfl lighting. This was originally going to be a straight cfl grow, veg and flower. Then the wife who doesn't medicate talked me into going the whole 9!

I usually do 2 at a time in my little 2'x4' tent but next grow I am going with a flood and drain table with 6 or 8 plants to bring down my veg time and reduce the amount of training I need to do. Nice construction work.