First Closet CFL Grow

kochab said:

If Im thinking and calculating everything correctly then that should be fine & that will cost you less than $300. So youll be able to get some mylar to go up on the walls. I actually recommend taking some cardboard and attaching the mylar to that tightly then putting those panels up on the walls, it keeps the mylar less wrinkled and that makes it more productive. Wrinkled mylar throws light around the room in odd angles and if one catches a plant just right too close to the wall it will burn the shit out of a plant.

By the way, Your the first person Ive ever heard of to grow lowryder in a hydro setup

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sweet man thanks for that heads up. yeah i didn't use cardboard on my emergency blanket and its rips easily and is wrinkly looking. LOL glad to hear I'm the first you've heard of, we'll see how it goes!! Btw i'm not to sure if you missed my question, but do you think I should take the tarp off thats covering my closet and just put that over the window in the room. That will still stop light leaks and it will probably have better air circulation right? The only thing I would have to take off is the fan thats hooked up to the light, which is barely doing anything anyways lol.

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toolage said:

sweet man thanks for that heads up. yeah i didn't use cardboard on my emergency blanket and its rips easily and is wrinkly looking. LOL glad to hear I'm the first you've heard of, we'll see how it goes!! Btw i'm not to sure if you missed my question, but do you think I should take the tarp off thats covering my closet and just put that over the window in the room. That will still stop light leaks and it will probably have better air circulation right? The only thing I would have to take off is the fan thats hooked up to the light, which is barely doing anything anyways lol.

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Combo
carbon inline filter, Yard, Garden Outdoor Living, Inside the Home items on eBay.com

This one has the fan built right inside
Activated Carbon Air Filter Hydroponic Odor Scrubber - eBay (item 150255260068 end time Jun-07-08 08:44:30 PDT)

best price so far on a light mover
4 foot Hydro Light Track System Large Grow Mover 4' - eBay (item 260246356721 end time Jun-06-08 19:09:06 PDT)

or just browse here for lots of good stuff
http://search.stores.ebay.com/Seeds-Etc_hydroponic_W0QQsaselZ8775331QQsofpZ0

I don't do the auctions I use the e-bay "Stores"
rather than an individual you deal with a store that most times has a physical location and inventory + a rep to keep good.
I buy most stuff online this way and save cash.

Alto said:

Combo
carbon inline filter, Yard, Garden Outdoor Living, Inside the Home items on eBay.com

This one has the fan built right inside
Activated Carbon Air Filter Hydroponic Odor Scrubber - eBay (item 150255260068 end time Jun-07-08 08:44:30 PDT)

best price so far on a light mover
4 foot Hydro Light Track System Large Grow Mover 4' - eBay (item 260246356721 end time Jun-06-08 19:09:06 PDT)

or just browse here for lots of good stuff
eBay Store: Search results for Seeds Etc.

I don't do the auctions I use the e-bay "Stores"
rather than an individual you deal with a store that most times has a physical location and inventory + a rep to keep good.
I buy most stuff online this way and save cash.

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good looking out alto. I dont know how much I would trust that carbon scrubber with the fan in it though. Might be a good one, ive never used one though.Do you know if you can buy carbon refill kits for that model?

not sure just thought it looked novel lol
I have a Can Fan 4" (159cfm) and a 30LB carbon filter I use
1 line that evacuates air from the grow room and cleans it and cools the light.
passive room intake vent thats light proofed.

Alto said:

not sure just thought it looked novel lol
I have a Can Fan 4" (159cfm) and a 30LB carbon filter I use
1 line that evacuates air from the grow room and cleans it and cools the light.
passive room intake vent thats light proofed.

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nice vent setup then

sweet fellas, thanks for all the helpful info and links. Lol sorry kochab didn't see that post but I read it now lol.

So by the end of this new setup, this inline fan is going to be hooked up to my light, and where does the carbon scrubber get hooked up to, the end of the duct? Am I going to have other fans getting air in and out of the room?

Well there are different schools about all that.


No 1 - you will need a 4" hole "somewhere" where the duct can exit the room.
Thats a problem for you as I know its a rented space.
You could always remove the door and do a Panda curtain...
Or buy the cheapest door you can find and make a hole using that to temp replace the closet one.
They are the only options I can see for you.

Now that you have a hole....
You could do it either of 3 ways

1-light -> fan -> out of room -> scrubber
or
2-Scrubber -> fan -> light -> out of room
or
3-Scrubber -> light -> fan -> out of room

most preferable is #1 but you will have a carbon scrubber sitting outside your grow room
Not very stealthy
I use #2 scrubbing the air then pushing it thru the light to outside the room.

#3 would require you to absolutely seal your light so the fan
which would be sucking the air past the light does not also suck in odor
thru your light fixture before exiting the room.
This negates the good job your scrubber is doing and can smell up your apartment.

So for stealth go with #2 for best efficiency it would be #1.
reason being the fan will perform better pushing air through the filter better than sucking air through it.
I found that out experimenting, (the strain on the fan is audible, and louder when its sucking thru the filter)
but had to settle for having it suck as I needed to keep the filter in the grow room where
it is not seen (or heard)
Also with the scrubber inside the grow op position it right at the ceiling over the light if possible
(they are heavy). This way it evacuates the hottest air (top of room and over light).

my preference (and what i do) looks like this (requires two fans):
EXHAUST:
Fan > out of room > carbon filter
LIGHTS:
out of room > duct to light > light > duct to fan > fan > out of room (no need for scrubber since the air never gets stinky)

I always put a y on the intake side of the fan and leave one end open in the room while connecting the other to the light.
Then on the outake side of the fan put a vent going outside the closet to the bedroom and put the carbon scrubber on there with the vented exhaust from the room blowing through it.

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sounds like I have a lot to think about. Thanks alot you guys for your help. I'm not to sure what I'm going to go with till I start putting stuff in that closet to see what makes most sense. Option 1 that alto was saying seems the best way for me, but we'll find out when the time comes!!

Alright lets take a poll. Anyone disagree?

I have the spare time today to change the water today. Probably won't have time to do it in the next few days because of work. Today is day 68 of flowering. I would liike to go ahead and start flushing today. Quite honestly, as well my patience is starting to wear thin with this sativa. It's honestly probably not going to be fully done for probably 14 weeks, and I'm not waiting that long lmao!

I figure I can add 13 gallons of tap water and ph balance it 5.5 and I will change the water scheduling to as folllows.

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toolage said:

Alright lets take a poll. Anyone disagree?

I have the spare time today to change the water today. Probably won't have time to do it in the next few days because of work. Today is day 68 of flowering. I would liike to go ahead and start flushing today. Quite honestly, as well my patience is starting to wear thin with this sativa. It's honestly probably not going to be fully done for probably 14 weeks, and I'm not waiting that long lmao!

I figure I can add 13 gallons of tap water and ph balance it 5.5 and I will change the water scheduling to as folllows.

On 7:10 AM
Off 7:30 AM
On 1:10 PM
Off 1:30 PM
On 7:10 PM
Off 7:30 PM
On 1:00 AM
Off 1:30 PM

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lol good luck with that Tool , wonder what kind mine are gonna be

toolage said:

Alright lets take a poll. Anyone disagree?

I have the spare time today to change the water today. Probably won't have time to do it in the next few days because of work. Today is day 68 of flowering. I would liike to go ahead and start flushing today. Quite honestly, as well my patience is starting to wear thin with this sativa. It's honestly probably not going to be fully done for probably 14 weeks, and I'm not waiting that long lmao!

I figure I can add 13 gallons of tap water and ph balance it 5.5 and I will change the water scheduling to as folllows.

On 7:10 AM
Off 7:30 AM
On 1:10 PM
Off 1:30 PM
On 7:10 PM
Off 7:30 PM
On 1:00 AM
Off 1:30 PM

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I dont know shit about the timing to the drip systems, Ive never used one of those (which is shocking...Ive used most all meduims @ least once but that one. damnit, now Ive got something else I need to experiment with!)

I think flushing right now would be okay since your not gonna leave her but a couple weeks more anyways. Here is another idea to consider as well though, why dont you just whack part of her now? then run the rest of her untill she looks actually done? That way some of her can be curing up and whatnot for you to smoke on, Youll have some finished as it should be, and youll have a bit of time to get your funds together to set up the new room with. It shouldent take more than 1 afternoon to get everything cleaned up and prepared for the next day I dont think (never did take me more than 1 anyways even with the actuall construction of grow rooms).

I really wish I had a car to come out that way, It would make setting it up lots easier for ya.
By the way, I tried germing 15 of these seeds and only 8 popped (which took 3 days for all 8 to open), then only 4 came up out of the soil.... I think they may have been too fresh (needed drying) and the guy didnt tell me that. Yours should be better rates though because they have been drying for 2 weeks more than mine already.

kochab said:

I dont know shit about the timing to the drip systems, Ive never used one of those (which is shocking...Ive used most all meduims @ least once but that one. damnit, now Ive got something else I need to experiment with!)

I think flushing right now would be okay since your not gonna leave her but a couple weeks more anyways. Here is another idea to consider as well though, why dont you just whack part of her now? then run the rest of her untill she looks actually done? That way some of her can be curing up and whatnot for you to smoke on, Youll have some finished as it should be, and youll have a bit of time to get your funds together to set up the new room with. It shouldent take more than 1 afternoon to get everything cleaned up and prepared for the next day I dont think (never did take me more than 1 anyways even with the actuall construction of grow rooms).

I really wish I had a car to come out that way, It would make setting it up lots easier for ya.
By the way, I tried germing 15 of these seeds and only 8 popped (which took 3 days for all 8 to open), then only 4 came up out of the soil.... I think they may have been too fresh (needed drying) and the guy didnt tell me that. Yours should be better rates though because they have been drying for 2 weeks more than mine already.

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How much is part of her? She is fattening up but none of the lower buds are even worth keeping I'm sure, so I'll chop those. But they aren't even filled in really enough to even smoke. Even though she's going to get me high, I feel as if this yeild isn't going to last me long. yeah man i wish you could come out here too, hella lot easier. But I'll make my way out there once this is done! We'll draw out some diagrams and i'll bring more detailed pics with me. I'm still waiting on my NL to get here, if it's not here by next thursday then they have probably been confiscated.

Update Day 68 Flowering/107 Days from Veg

Nutes Added in Resevoir:
2 Gallons Water
14 drops ph down

PH/PPM
5.4/750

Temp/Humidity - Reset Min and Max
72.1/37%
Max-75.3/41%
Min-66.2/27%

Stretch
She's fattening up. Wanted to start flushing today or tomorrow. Any yays or nays? It'll be 2 days early then what I originally planned, but I don't think it'll effect it that much. I'm sure she could grow out to a full 14 weeks, but who has the patience for that lol! Especially whenever this next grow is going to be awesome...hopefully.

This is a picture of the very bottom branch of stretch. Do you think its safe to cut the whole branch off? If so I'll go ahead and chop that one down and hang her out to dry.

toolage said:

This is a picture of the very bottom branch of stretch. Do you think its safe to cut the whole branch off? If so I'll go ahead and chop that one down and hang her out to dry.

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if that part of the plant is ready why not? you'll put her into shock but you never want to have your buds over ripe

toolage said:

How much is part of her? She is fattening up but none of the lower buds are even worth keeping I'm sure, so I'll chop those. But they aren't even filled in really enough to even smoke. Even though she's going to get me high, I feel as if this yeild isn't going to last me long. yeah man i wish you could come out here too, hella lot easier. But I'll make my way out there once this is done! We'll draw out some diagrams and i'll bring more detailed pics with me. I'm still waiting on my NL to get here, if it's not here by next thursday then they have probably been confiscated.

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hmm, Thats all up to you bra. I mean it is your plant after all.
Hope your beans are safe, It would suck to have them confiscated by customs (thats why I try to go through private breeders).
Sometimes bagseed sativas build up more hairs than they do calyx so its hard to say how much more she is going to bulk up or how fast that she is going to do it. I say by the way she is progressing though that she wont get a whole lot of calyx to fill in between those long hairs.
How long ago was your old lady supposed to have sent the beans by the way?