ez don, i could not believe it myself mate and would not of if i hadnt seen it 1st hand...they were literally sitting in water for 2 weeks and they appeared to be loving it! (he even had water globes shoved in the for good measure LOL) the size of the buds were what sold them to me mate and his dry wieght was the icing on the cake! im gonna try watering mine twice a day this time around, the coco seems to be able to handle it mint....and it works wonders in most hydro setups