Finish date guess-timation

beepy1

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I am 60 days into flowering, and the breeder suggests it is a 9 week strain. The trichomes are mostly clear with around 15-20% cloudy and basically no amber ones. Can anyone give an educated guess on when they might finish? I want to know when to start flushing, as I don't want the plants to be deprived of nutrients if they still have a couple weeks to go. I am still seeing some white pistils/stigmas. Any educated guesses? Should I start giving RO water only, with no nutrients?
 

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shawnery

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Its hard to know without knowing what your growing in. If your in soil everyone says to give it two weeks to flush or is what I've read on here. On the other hand in hydro it's arguable that you don't need a flush at all but no more them a couple days are needed either way.
 

Lucky Luke

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I am 60 days into flowering, and the breeder suggests it is a 9 week strain. The trichomes are mostly clear with around 15-20% cloudy and basically no amber ones. Can anyone give an educated guess on when they might finish? I want to know when to start flushing, as I don't want the plants to be deprived of nutrients if they still have a couple weeks to go. I am still seeing some white pistils/stigmas. Any educated guesses? Should I start giving RO water only, with no nutrients?
Damn she is frosty! Nice job.
Flushing can mean 4 different things so ignore the term. Amber can happen pretty fast and from what I can see on my laptop you have allot of brown hairs. id say you don't have to long to go. A week maybe 2. If they start receding id be looking at chopping.
 

Lucky Luke

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Looks like you have fed her close to perfect. Just drop off the nutes and feed light or water only. If you have a flower boast its a good point to use it. PK13/14 or similar.
 

Capn-Crunch

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Do I flush?
Is flushing the right choice for my garden?
Will flushing help my grow to a cleaner smoke?

These might be some of the questions you might have. To answer these questions, we must first understand what flushing is, and where did the term come from.

FLUSHING - to flush, the act of cleansing a plants roots of nutrients and contaminants by giving the plant large amounts of water (usually equal to 3 times the volume of soil the plant is in).

The term Flushing came to be when a soil grower used the wrong nutrients, and instead of throwing the soil, this idea came to be.

From the same website aforementioned above, they go on to myths of growing and say this:

***However, flushing does not “leach out” nutrients/minerals that are already in the buds. While your plant can use up extra stored nutrients in the leaves of the plant, this does not remove a “chemical” taste from your buds if you’ve provided too many nutrients throughout the flowering stage.

Many people believe that flushing with plain water takes nutrients (and thus bad taste) out of the buds, in a sense, returning them to their ‘natural flavor’. Unfortunately, this just isn’t the case.

When it comes to ensuring good taste and smell of your cannabis plants, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Instead of relying on the flush to prevent extra nutrients from being stored in your buds, it’s better to avoid ever giving the plant more nutrients than it can use in the first place. That means keeping nutrient levels as low as you can throughout the grow while preventing nutrient deficiencies.***
 

beepy1

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Its hard to know without knowing what your growing in. If your in soil everyone says to give it two weeks to flush or is what I've read on here. On the other hand in hydro it's arguable that you don't need a flush at all but no more them a couple days are needed either way.
I'm growing in coco if that helps. I was planning on doing a 1 week flush, starting off with some FloraKleen at the beginning of the flush. I'm just not sure if I should start the flush yet, since my plants may be behind on ripening.
 

Capn-Crunch

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I'm growing in coco if that helps. I was planning on doing a 1 week flush, starting off with some FloraKleen at the beginning of the flush. I'm just not sure if I should start the flush yet, since my plants may be behind on ripening.
Don't do the "molasses" thing either if you're in coco. In soil molasses feeds the soil microbes, no soil, no microbes.
 

beepy1

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Don't do the "molasses" thing either if you're in coco. In soil molasses feeds the soil microbes, no soil, no microbes.
What about FloraKleen? I think it has glucose and other sugars in it, but they are marketed as a way to help remove built up salts in the grow medium. I have noticed white salt buildup at the top of my pots, and was hoping the FloraKleen would help remove it. Low ppm feedings has not helped remove the buildup.
 

Lordhooha

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What about FloraKleen? I think it has glucose and other sugars in it, but they are marketed as a way to help remove built up salts in the grow medium. I have noticed white salt buildup at the top of my pots, and was hoping the FloraKleen would help remove it. Low ppm feedings has not helped remove the buildup.
Stuff like florakeen or any flushing agent is generally sold to suckers and the uneducated. Flushing does you and your plants zero favors.
 

Thundercat

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2 weeks and I bet the trichomes are perfect. It has mostly stopped calyx growth at this point it seems from the pictures. It also looks like the calyxs have begun to swell some. Sooo that spells about 1.5-2 weeks for most strains.

These guys have already explained the flushing thing properly. I encourage everyone to do their own experiments, but I don't flush after trying both ways myself. I prefer to just feed the plants gently in the first place instead of slamming them with nutrients.
 

beepy1

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Stuff like florakeen or any flushing agent is generally sold to suckers and the uneducated. Flushing does you and your plants zero favors.
So coco does not have problems with salt buildup? Or is it that FloraKleen does not help to wash it away? I would like to get rid of excess salts that I can see at the top of my pots, and low ppm water is not taking it away. What should I do?
 

Thundercat

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I'm curious when your so close to harvest and you have totally healthy plants, why do you care if there is a little build up on top of the coco? Coco can have problems with build up, but its only a problem at earlier stages when the plant still has a lot of growing to do. You don't want to take a chance at that point of having issues. At the point your at it literally doesn't matter, your plants should basically be on autopilot at this point.

Like I said before if you want to flush them go ahead and try it out. I encourage people to try to do side by sides so they can see what flushing vs not flushing 2 plants will do.
 

Lucky Luke

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So coco does not have problems with salt buildup? Or is it that FloraKleen does not help to wash it away? I would like to get rid of excess salts that I can see at the top of my pots, and low ppm water is not taking it away. What should I do?
Q, what will you be doing with the medium once you have harvested? If your throwing it out who cares? If your going to recycle it then leach the medium with a lightly fertilised drenching. Coco doesn't like plain water and you don't need to spend $ on something that just needs a leaching.
I wouldn't be worried about the media until you have chopped the stem TBH,
 

beepy1

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Q, what will you be doing with the medium once you have harvested? If your throwing it out who cares? If your going to recycle it then leach the medium with a lightly fertilised drenching. Coco doesn't like plain water and you don't need to spend $ on something that just needs a leaching.
I wouldn't be worried about the media until you have chopped the stem TBH,
I am going to throw away the medium, but I don't want salt buildup to affect my plants. I was only using 500ppm nutrient solution when my plants got nutrient burn, and other people attributed that to built up salts in the coco. Some people recommend using low ppm rinses every few weeks in coco but it is hard to know if that is reasonable since there is so much bad or conflicting information about growing. I don't understand how my plants are burning at 500ppm while other people seem to be able to get up to 1200ppm or higher solutions without trouble. I have always gotten plenty of runoff too.
 

beepy1

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I'm curious when your so close to harvest and you have totally healthy plants, why do you care if there is a little build up on top of the coco? Coco can have problems with build up, but its only a problem at earlier stages when the plant still has a lot of growing to do. You don't want to take a chance at that point of having issues. At the point your at it literally doesn't matter, your plants should basically be on autopilot at this point.

Like I said before if you want to flush them go ahead and try it out. I encourage people to try to do side by sides so they can see what flushing vs not flushing 2 plants will do.
I only care because I thought it could affect the plants even in the last week of growth. I had trouble with salt buildup in earlier growth stages and thought it may still be an issue.
 

Thundercat

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I think at this point your good to ride it out till the end man. I'd just give it plain water feedings if your concerned. I definitely wouldn't stress about it. The plants looks great to finish maturing.
 
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