CannaBruh
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Rob Roy
This is me staring back at you with the same cynical demeanor you came with when addressing my post.
Financing Medicare for All
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This is me staring back at you with the same cynical demeanor you came with when addressing my post.
Unclebaldrick
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Pro-tip. Putting him ignore does not diminish the experience here at all.Rob Roy
This is me staring back at you with the same cynical demeanor you came with when addressing my post.
He is the only one on my list.
Fogdog
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Second that.
After reading his third post you already know what he's going to say. Boring and vile. This place is much better without his garbage posts stinking up my screen.
Herb & Suds
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I have him on ignore in my mind
No, I'm saying it's the same as a thief is an ignorant childish argument that wanna be outlaws make till the day their house is burning.
Rob Roy
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That is an incorrect use of the phrase "voluntarily agreed".
If I broke into your house in the middle of the night and threatened to beat you mercilessly with a large salami unless you "voluntarily" gave me money in exchange for my agreement not to beat you anymore your "agreement" was made under duress. Agreements made under duress are not voluntary agreements.
Although, it is possible you would enjoy being beaten with a large salami.
Rob Roy
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I see you are unable to distinguish between giving a nonresponsive reply (which you did) and giving an answer which buttresses your assertion and refutes the other persons claim. Weak, Freak.
Your premise was; if a person(s) taking your money while placing you under threat of force provides some kind of "service" that their theft is magically transformed into a kind of "not theft" . Then when called on it, you cried and spouted a rationalization.
Tell me where you live, and I will be by to take your money, but don't worry, I'll feed your cat, so it's all good.
Rob Roy
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I still like that you said stop killing people on planet earth.Rob Roy
This is me staring back at you with the same cynical demeanor you came with when addressing my post.
So what have you done to free yourself of this evil? Most of the people I see making those arguments don't do anything, they live in society, use all the infrastructure made by thieving while making their arguments on the net. It's hypocrisy at it's best.
Meanwhile they cry about paying taxes on land....which was stolen from Indians in the first place so start your argument there. You are in possession of stolen property my friend...give it back.
I've actually read your argument before, interesting site on it, a movement that never got off the ground and never will, but it's better than being an EMO I guess. What was the name of the movement?
Unclebaldrick
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Padawanbater2
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That's exactly what every president does when they're running for election. They present their ideas, the public votes for the most convincing option
What is your prefered candidate going to guarantee to do? Should I reconsider voting for them because I'm incredulous in my own biased perceived ability for them to deliver?
They can't guarantee anything. This is a machine with a lot of moving parts, all of which are required for it to run smoothly. A fundamental wrench in the machine during any Democratic administration, Sanders, Biden, Warren, Gabbard, etc. is a Republican held Senate which isn't going away anytime soon without a big fight. I think Sanders has the strategy to defeat Republicans in the Senate and extend Democratic control into 2022. The largest obstacle is corporate America, and now, the Koch brothers just announced they're willing to finance corporate Democrats campaigns who choose to play corporate ball, too, as a response to the progressive uprising within the Democratic party.
I am bias because I lived half of my life in a social capitalist country and now living in America it's just sad. It's dog eat dog. And I have never seen a people despise their neighbors more. The government can't do anything for us till we change ourselves. I am not convinced this culture has it in it to be honest. And it's such a F'd up paradox, Americans love to give to charities, go fund me this, vial that, and yet they don't want to give people universal healthcare.
Big pharmacy still is profitable in countries that are sane and dictate the price for everything, and they rape Americans up the arse and we smile and say, "more please." Completely socialize medicine, make it a goal in 30 years, built the infrastructure and screw big pharmacy, their time getting fat off of Americans is over.
Never gonna happen. We are too stupid.
Big pharmacy still is profitable in countries that are sane and dictate the price for everything, and they rape Americans up the arse and we smile and say, "more please." Completely socialize medicine, make it a goal in 30 years, built the infrastructure and screw big pharmacy, their time getting fat off of Americans is over.
Never gonna happen. We are too stupid.
Fogdog
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The difference, my dear, is that Bernie submitted a bill to the legislature. It is the bill that I'm damning him for. An unfiinished piece of legislation submitted as if it were ready for implementation. What it actually is, is a campaign brochure. More like an ad from a fat farm showing how great everybody looks after they lose 150 pounds of fat. As if there wasn't anything more to do than sign the contract.
The difference, naive child, is that you are spinning that unfinished amateurish threat to our economy as if something is wrong with US for pointing out that the middle of the bill entitled "AND THEN A MIRACLE HAPPENS" needs more work. You are lying to us and we can't help but object.
It's Bernie's bill and he should sink with it.
Fogdog
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What time is it in Moscow?
Padawanbater2
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Cut the fat from your own posts, in other words, shut the fuck up more and get to the point quicker
"The difference is, Bernie has a bill I saw I disagree with"
Here's the part where you list your disagreements instead of bombarding us with personal bullshit nobody cares to read but you and the rest of the middle school gang
hotrodharley
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I can’t tell him what a fucking idiot he is regularly if I put him on ignore. He shows up here obviously wanting his fair share of abuse. In his defense I see him regularly in the growing section so at least he earns his troll rights.
Fogdog
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Now, now, petulant child.
You are angry and making up things I never said.
Bernie wrote a bill and submitted it to the Senate to be made into law. That is very different from making promises in a campaign speech. I've been saying for a very long time that it is an amatuerish piece of garbage. I'm glad that you now agree with that point. But you can't simply roll back time and say it was a campaign promise because it was not. Warren has staked political capital in that bill too and I'm holding it against her as well, although not as much as Bernie. Bernie should sink with that bill. It's his.
hotrodharley
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Bernie submitted unfinished or incomplete legislation? Unlike the rest of Congress who take bills written in toto by ALEC directly to the House or Senate and slap their names on it, introduce it as their own and get campaign donations for their efforts. These people often do not even read the goddamned thing. I’ll take Bernie any day over anyone else presently running. Trust this - Congress can easily stymie anything Sanders tries to do short of him issuing lots of Executive Orders. That ain’t his style.
Padawanbater2
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You said Sanders can't get anything done. So far, as a US Senator, he's achieved more than the president, and garnered enough publicity to make slave wages an issue in regards to Walmart and McDonalds, at the expense of the Trump administration who continues to boast about unemployment numbers. Where are all the corporate Democrats in line that say those numbers are inflated? Or that the employment number is not the only qualifier for a good economy?
You're letting bad Democrats get away with arguing for a good economy under a Republican president when it isn't good for the working class at all..
Fogdog
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What's he DONE? Named two post offices and gotten a few federal buildings converted to solar heating.
What he's done as a Senator is written in the congressional record. The other stuff is moonlighting, maybe infuencing others but nothing more than that. A Senator is one of the most powerful people in this country and you say his moonlighting is his best work. Maybe he should quit the Senate and become a political activist. He should let somebody who wants the job be a Senator who can get things done that directly affect the lives of millions of people.
You've headed off on a tangent and I want to bring you back. You said that Bernie's healthcare bill is the same as campaign promises. I just want to sit and laugh at you for a while. Also laugh at you for getting all wet in the shorts about Bernie's fight with Walmart when he could be working on real legislation in the Senate.
Also laughing at your last line. I never said that. Again, petulant child, you are angry and making shit up. It's a juvenile way of talking. It doesn't look good on a 30+ year old man.