Ffof soil do you ph
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1dude1seed
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For what it’s worth, this little gal is in a combination of FFOF and FFHP with added perlite. Watered as needed with straight tap water that comes out at 7.3-7.7 on average. This combination has worked well for me.
Herb potman
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Can I ask what type of nutrients you use ?
Herb potman
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Are u sure. Is giving citric acid like giving lemon juice ? Someone just said here that for plants acid is acid ? But Iam new. Here to learn.
Rdubz
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Mine come out at about 6.0 as well and it's definitely RO So idk the answer my old house with RO it was 7.0 pH and now with new place here I'm thinking has to do with different city water
Relaxed
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Havent ph anything in years. ffof is perfect for the 1st month. Start nuts after one month slowly at 25 percent suggested and move up as the plant shows likeing it. unless hydro imo ph is a bunch of bull shit for a plant thats annual. When new phed water before and after bunch of bs. farmers don't ph...
Rdubz
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Not true they soil test and based off soil PH is what makes the decision of what crop to plant!
Green Refuge
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Man I use so much stuff it'll take a whole page to list them. Dry amendments top dressing and mixed with soil I've used nature living super soil, alfalfa, BAS craft blend, crushed oyster shell, fish bone meal and others. Bottle and powder I've used silica, 5-2 kelp humic blend, amino acids, enzymes, Aloe vera, coconut powder,calmag recharge, microbial mass pro, fish shit, seaweed extract, mammoth p, mbferts, molasses, great white and some others I can't remember.
In my experience ff soil can take anything you throw at as long as you stay light on NPK.
Herb potman
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I was guna grab microbial mass pro but I ended up getting recharge instead. Which one u like better and why ? Please
Relaxed
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not daily but maybe annually usual never and i do know. They dont every water etc. so you are not correct in my statement. Id give even more detail but enough for details.
Green Refuge
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Either one of those is a win. Those two are in a very short list of products that made a visible impact on my plants. The recharge is good because it's an all in one supplement per say. The microbial mass works better than everything in it's class that I've tried (mammoth p, Tribus, etc). If I was a beginner on a budget I'd get recharge. If money wasn't an issue I'd grab microbial mass.
Herb potman
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It’s funny cuz I have spoke to a few people and they use recharge and claims it’s good I just wanted something to feed and add microbial life People told me just keep top dressing once a month with a good worm castings and then just give molasses every so often and it’s the same thing . But Iam a first time grower so I just ask lots of questions then just the other day my grow shop guy told me about microbial mass and the pro version And cuz Iam in Canada the microbial mass is actually cheaper for me But I will try recharge out this time and the microbial mass next. How was the fish shit ?
MICHI-CAN
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Bro science is proven on chlorine. And my FFOF education dictates Tap water for avoiding cal/mag issues. And PH is really critical in my grows with it. LOL.
Here is how I still test my soils. Old school is still an education.
Peace.
PJ Diaz
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The idea that bottled nutes will kill your micro-herd is complete and utter nonsense. I mean, sure, if you overfeed to a point that you burn your plants, you will also have issues with your microbes dying off too, but synthetic ferts and microbes can get along just fine at normal levels.
Personally I would ph anything higher than 7.5 in soil. You will kill more microbes from an alkaline solution than you will by adding some acid. Don't forget that microbes like it slightly acid anyway which is why they will help to bring your soil back closer to 6.5, even when you put in 7.0 water.
Relaxed
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why is it that i haven't phed anything in years and run perfectly everytime? no freakin idea my ph using plain ole water?
Herb potman
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May I ask if your in ffof ? And what is your house ph ? D u use tap I assume ? Cuz me and my buddy having probs with ffof
Relaxed
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fox farm ocean forest 3 parts, 1 part perlite, heaping spoon of lime. thats about a one gallon ratio. although always experimenting after a month seabird guano every 2/3 weeks spoon full per plant. no idiea tap water ph. havent checked since the ph meter busted many moons ago. straight tap water none of that let it settle a day.
Herb potman
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Does that lime help u through ph issues ?
PJ Diaz
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As you said, you don't know your ph, so perhaps it's already ideal.
Just because it works however, does not make it optimal.
I can ride my bike to store, it works fine. I will get there faster if I drive a car, and will be able to bring more things home with me. If you want optimal results, you provide optimal inputs. If you want adequate results, you provide adequate inputs; it will be adequate, just not optimal.
Dank Bongula
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Maybe you have optimal water where you live. Some of us get our water from a well, or a lake, or a river, or a canal...different watersheds and treatment systems as well as distribution systems have different impacts on water because they go through different processes depending on the source water. What works optimally for you, may not and most likely will not, work optimally for someone else.