Few Q's for you outdoor gardeners

thirdgen4me

thirdgen4me

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I have been growing for awhile indoors and have recently started an outdoor crop. I have about 8 plants in a heavily wooded area in Maryland. I put them outside when they were about 24" tall in the beginning of May. They have now since started flowering which I did not expect! I thought putting them outside in the end of April start of May that I would be ok? Now I don't think that they will be able to finish flowering because of the light cycle. I'm thinking maybe because the area there in is shaded thats why they are flowering instead of vegging? Should I bring them back inside and finish the flowering under a 600w hps on 12/12? Or should I just leave them alone and wait for them to revert back to veg and grow into 10 foot tall trees?
 
indcolts77

indcolts77

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When you go from indoor light cycles (usually 18-6 or 24-0) they will flower if you put them outside....I count on this happening to get multiple harvests...June 21 is the longest day of the year than it gets shorter from there....

My suggestion to you is to light deprive them until June 21st to ensure they continue flowering then you're good after that
 
thirdgen4me

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Nice! Thanks for the information. They are far enough along now that they will be done flowering by June 21st.
 
deePTokEn

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I would leave them bro same thing happened to me last year Had plants that were almost 2 ft tall in Early May put them outside and they started to pre flower becuase It was still cold and days were short yet.. which (Tricked) the plant. in the end come around October I still harvested an amazing crop and yes they were all atleast 6/7Ft monsters even bigger. Come Oct.
 
thirdgen4me

thirdgen4me

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They are only 2-3 weeks tops away from being done. So I think I might be able to harvest them before they even start going back into veg.
 
indcolts77

indcolts77

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That far in they're not gonna reveg...the veg cycle for your plants was higher than anything you're gonna get outside... I have a shed I put my plants in at 630pm everyday to light deprive them...but 2-3 weeks left I didn't even bother and I still get this vvvvv
 

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thirdgen4me

thirdgen4me

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Looks awesome indcolts! That looks a lot like one of the strains I grow. My garden is hidden deep into the woods of a friends farm and also planted in the ground so moving them is impossible. The secluded area is great but also hard to check on them often. I have to cross a creek and with all this rain we've had makes it hard to cross!
 
SoCal88

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I agree with Indy.. I stick 3 plants outside every month. I love those harvests every 30 days... I have never had to use any light deprivation though..
 
indcolts77

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@SoCal88 I'm glad you brought up the light deprivation issue...I do it just to make sure and bc I never tried it the other way...I'm buying two clones this week and gonna veg indoors for a month or so then gonna drop em outside around June 21 and go for an early harvest... glad to know its possible without light dep so I'm pretty optimistic about the whole thing...imma go for every 30-60 day harvests too of possible ...want a constant flow of bud year long but I'm just getting going...I had a successful winter harvest I started in early Feb and harvested Apr 27...rarely gets below 40-45 where I live and the shed I use helps keep em warm

To the OP ...if your girls are in the ground don't even worry about it, just sit back and wait for harvest date, your girls should finish just fine...me and SoCal88 are living proof hah
 
thirdgen4me

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Just checked on them today and they are looking great! I have 5 cheese strains and 3 blue dream from humbolt county which is amazing.
 
tags420

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In CA we can't put clones out till at least the 3rd week of may but june 1st is a guarantee they won't start to flower. There is only about 2 months worth of natural vegging sunlight all year, so timing is clutch. All the rest of the time will trigger flower. The trigger to flower is at about 14.25 hours of light. More light than that will veg and less than that will go into flower. It takes a couple weeks to transition outdoors cause the change in light time is so subtle day to day. Which is why people don't see flowers starting right at the 14.25hrs mark, closer to 14.
The point is...don't put clones out till you have 14.25hrs of light or they will flower. Here is a site to help you find what that is for your area.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/Dur_OneYear.php


EDIT: You can get away with planting beans before that because they will not flower till they are mature enough to...which is usually takes 4 weeks min.
 
Forte

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tags420 said:
Ya sometimes. You have to harden clones off which takes a week, sometimes 2 if your place is super hot/strong sun.

Like this???
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Like that but mine were worse. They were so toasted they were crumbling. I cut all the fan leaves off that were toasted how do you think that will affect my clones? One is 6 inches and the other is 4 inches.
Ill post pics tomorrow.
 
Forte

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IMG00811-20130519-1035.jpgIMG00810-20130519-1035.jpgIMG00809-20130519-1035.jpgIMG00808-20130519-1035.jpgThe first three pics are SFV OG Kush and the last one is tahoe og kush. Should i cut off the stem that is still there or leave it?
 
tags420

tags420

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You should leave all the leaves and foliage on even if they are getting fried. The leaves are the shade for the rest of the plant. When you take almost all of them off you subject the stalk and rest of the plant to serious heat and intense light, and those parts aren't really designed for normal high intensity situations let alone the sun that is frying the big fan leaves. It is ugly to look at but even the fried shit provides shade. Once they are used to the full sun feel free to prune away as much as you want.

When they are as little as that you need to harden them off slowly by keeping them in the shade mostly and then only a couple hours of direct sun. Over a week or so gradually give them more sun. When the sun is that direct and hot, the shade will still probably have as much light as a decent flowering room.

You could make a little box frame with stakes and put a thin sheet over it and that will shade them nicely and still let a good amount of light pass through.
 
Forte

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Thx for the info. I'm going to buy 2 more clones tomorrow so i wont make the same mistake with those. Do you know what that white spot on my tahoe og is? maybe nute burn or a deficiency?
 
Forte

Forte

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tags420 said:
You should leave all the leaves and foliage on even if they are getting fried. The leaves are the shade for the rest of the plant. When you take almost all of them off you subject the stalk and rest of the plant to serious heat and intense light, and those parts aren't really designed for normal high intensity situations let alone the sun that is frying the big fan leaves. It is ugly to look at but even the fried shit provides shade. Once they are used to the full sun feel free to prune away as much as you want.

When they are as little as that you need to harden them off slowly by keeping them in the shade mostly and then only a couple hours of direct sun. Over a week or so gradually give them more sun. When the sun is that direct and hot, the shade will still probably have as much light as a decent flowering room.

You could make a little box frame with stakes and put a thin sheet over it and that will shade them nicely and still let a good amount of light pass through.
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Thx for the info. I'm going to buy 2 more clones tomorrow so i wont make the same mistake with those. Do you know what that white spot on my tahoe og is? maybe nute burn or a deficiency?
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