Ferminized method... True? or not

but what if i want the full plant to be seeded how much seed will a 2 ft tall plant give if it is polenated? (the full plant)

fucking thousands

seriously thousands of seeds? that's be sweet because if i can work my one seed to be perfect and clone it i'll never have to look for good seeds again. and if i polinate a female with a hermie will the result of the seeds still be more hermie seeds or more female?

highwayman said:

seriously thousands of seeds? that's be sweet because if i can work my one seed to be perfect and clone it i'll never have to look for good seeds again. and if i polinate a female with a hermie will the result of the seeds still be more hermie seeds or more female?

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I've done a bit of reading lately.

Highlights:

All fem seeds have a much greater chance of going hermie.

Don't pollinate a fem seed plant.

Self pollinated plant, not the best. Makes for more chances for hermies.

Harvesting the pollen from a hermie and using it on a different plant (I think not a clone, but from a different seed) produces a slightly more stable plant/seed. (but still fem seeds)

Breeding only one strain, leeds to inbreeding and bring up the submissive traits/genes.

Back breeding can help the last point.

Now I could be wrong, but thats the jist of what I've read. (or gotten from what I've read. Any of the gurus feel free to correct me!!)

Oh, I don't believe that there are 3 types of seeds. I feel just 2. male and female. The conditions make the hermies.

(looking for proof to the diff; and that a plant an change sex after sprouting)

Heres how it is kids, whats this is called is a late hermaphrodite. I.E. they stress the plant or let it flower long enough that it grows pollin sacks, then they let these pollin sacks pollinate the buds this makes them Female. This is how it works, When a normal Female Produces male stamen the pollin carries the genetic code of the female not the male, Although the female produces male parts it is not a male, or a true hermaphrodite. Think of it like this, if the Female is the number one and the male is two then 1x1 = 1 and 1x2 = 2 so if you have 2 female genes your produce a female, but if you have 1x2 or a male and a female you have a 50/50 chance of producing either. Its one of the only decent methods of maintaining and preserving strains because something always happens to clones they just cant live forever.

And there are 3 types of seeds rarely there is a true hermy, male female super freak. These super freaks are called Alternatin Whorl Nodes or plants with 3 fan leaf stalks instead of growing 2 and 2 they grow 3 and 3 to 3 fan leafs per node instead of just 2. Theres 2 reason for this condition forced chromosonal dammage generally gaining and extra chromosone (using crocus bulbs LOL) or but simply having a lucky freak. They actrually start as paralell whorls but as they enter flowering they become alternating whorl node plants (google the pics look up 3 fan leaf marijuana) Natural ones are generally hermys from the start, but if your causing the chromosonal dmg to a quality strain (only feminized will work as the seeds sprout they will have the 3 leaf deformation and grow as a potent female but like a donkey will not produce viable seeds the plant is rendered sterile but if you keep is sensamilla it should produce 1/3 more bud per plant.

so how would you beable to produse 1x1=1 as you said? would that be a female left to over flower and a female that is on a regular flowering time? please explain for me

so to get a female to make feminized seeds u would have to flower her than throw her back in the veg state than throw her in flower and make her turn hermie or if u keep the females in the budding process long enough they will produce pollen sacs and pllonate there own??? but isnt that called hermie??? shits confusing but plz explain

yeah it is confuseing is it better to polinate a female with a hermie to get ferminized seeds or is it better to go with just a hermie that was a female stressed into hermie?

best to use stressed hermie pollen on pure female buds to dilute the likliness of more herms

It would be best to take a clone of your plant early during veg, Give it about 7-14 days to start rooting, then put it in flowering stage as you want to pollinate early so you have time for healthy seeds to grow. Now heres the tuff part, stressing the clone takes a lot of finesse as to you want a healthy plant, but an upset one. During the light period in the day a normal female should be on a 12/12 light cycle, your clone with need light breaks in the 12/12 cycle. I'm suggesting at least complete darkness for 3 periods of 30 minutes -1 hr. water normally, fertilize normally. Now light isn't the only stress factor that causes hermy condition, you also have to clip to leaf tips. Once the leaf has come out fully and a small but decent sized new set of fan leaves are showing trim 1/3 of length of the fan leaf. This is were finesse comes into play do not trim all the leaves but if you don't trim enough you wont see a male in time to pollinate. The third factor is fluctuating heat try to range your temp at least +10º F to -25º F from your NORMAL temp of the healthy female/s awaiting pollination. Once you see the sacks forming let them develop till they appear clearly as hanging sacks then stop all stress treatment and treat the clone as normal. The simple method of pollinating is allowing the small clone hemy to grow in close proximity to a fan and the female. There are other methods for selective pollination but this seems the most simple and has the highest percentage of success. This is my first attempt to arrange my thoughts on the best way to intentionally stress a plant, Feedback with pictures and measurements would be fantastic.

Bio 110

Here is a issue to address with Pre-Fem seeds the seeds are great, but you add a lot of genetic instability its the same plant a seed clone basically but unstable for breeding especially. Pre-Fem seeds should not be breed, it gives a large variable for very poor genetics to be passed on the the children of Pre-Fem seeds. The % of natural hermies will skyrocket
along with potency and plant heartiness on the fast decline, often Pre-fem Mothers will be sterile leaving all the crap and none of the rewards no viable seeds.
F1 pre-fems get a 7 out of 10*

F2 Pre - fems gets 3 1/2 out of 10*
Nothing beats years of progressive training and breeding your own
Humans live only once, and the same goes for everything else that lives.
You can stop the flow of genetics, nor should you try, but remembering your for fathers is a noble cause.

You can go through the trouble...and end up with weaker genetics than before when you started or....I found this new way to grow...the most reliable and stable...I'll give some hints because I'm a nice guy. You buy any pack of seeds....any. Grow them properly from seed, find your best mother ....ditch the others if you don't approve, and keep growing that mother....when she's ready take some clones off those reliable wise old branches of hers and give them some rooting hormone, stick them in some soil/soiless medium of your choice! Don't bother with weak genetics....I bought a pack of feminised seeds, grew them out...grew a same pack of the weed that wasn't feminised (same strain...c99, same company) and I found the bud not only tastier, but stronger....could be just me though...enjoy those hermies.

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A friend of mine went to Amsterdam 2 or 3 years ago, he bought some Feminized Blueberry from Dutch Passion. Sent them home to himself. He germ'd all ten, put them into cut off 2 litre bottles wrapped in duct tape and after about 2 weeks of vegging started spraying them occasionally with Gibberellic Acid, all the plants went to seed. He got a shit load of seeds and he's been growing feminized Blueberry plants ever since. As far as he tells me, he's never had a male or even a hermie. True story.