That site is legit? I see some great prices! Might order for my next grow from there
feeding plants sugar?
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socaljoe
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Better than legit, k4l is awesome. I've already ordered several items, great prices, quick shipping, great customer service. Hell yeah, they're badass.
But not carbs!
hexthat
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sugar is a carbohydrate just like THC is
All a matter of how long it vegsmicrobial warlock
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I prefer to use molasses over brown sugar and table sugar. Molasses unlike table sugar contains small amounts of minerals and vitamins that the plant will benefit from. Brown sugar contains vitamins and minerals as well but just not as much as molasses. I use a tablespoon per gallon and add every time I feed/water during the flowering stage and once every 2 weeks during the vegetative stage. I buy my molasses from a company called Neptune's Harvest.
ganjagrowman
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i use sugar water for all my plants not just weed an it works miracles on them
by sugar water do you mean table sugar?? or brown sugar?
smacksjack
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Here's what I know about Molasses - start using the UNSULPHURED molasses in a tea, about a Tsp+/gallon at first bringing it close to a Tbsp/gallon by the time you flush. Use IN COMPLIMENT with other organic nutrients (otherwise, why are you using molasses...get other chems). Begin feeding in LATE veg as a filler between feedings (i.e. Feed, Water, Molasses, Feed) This means you'll only use it every 10+ days or so. No more than that - otherwise the sugars build up in the soil as the microflora can't keep up and can attract pests.
The only benefits to this is to provide your ladies with an active and abundant soil, full of mirconutrients and simple carbo's. It essentially promotes healthy soil.
For me (and I have done this a couple of times now) - I just transplanted three of my girls into Empire Builder soil (which is ammmmmazing) which has about 2 weeks worth of nutrients in it - because I time my transplants, at the end of the two weeks, I will switch to flowering where I can start using my bloom nutes regularly. In the meantime, I will add molasses, in tea form, every other watering...so in the next two weeks, I will add molasses twice at a really low dosage as well as water twice (doing a thorough drench with the molasses and lighter watering in between).
This will "prime" the plant for flower, keeping the soil healthy, and encouraging the plants to use every last nute in that soil before I start adding nutrients - remembering that nutrients are salts and require an active microbiota in the soil to break them down and keep the plants from locking nutrients out due to salt build-up.
So - slowly increase dosage, use every 10+ days, start in late flower corresponding with your transplant to a larger pot (and fresh soil).
Other than that - it's about as useful as it gets. Most other info seems pretty bogus, and this is distilled version of all the shit I read - coincidentally, it is also the only information that everyone agrees on.
Good luck.
The only benefits to this is to provide your ladies with an active and abundant soil, full of mirconutrients and simple carbo's. It essentially promotes healthy soil.
For me (and I have done this a couple of times now) - I just transplanted three of my girls into Empire Builder soil (which is ammmmmazing) which has about 2 weeks worth of nutrients in it - because I time my transplants, at the end of the two weeks, I will switch to flowering where I can start using my bloom nutes regularly. In the meantime, I will add molasses, in tea form, every other watering...so in the next two weeks, I will add molasses twice at a really low dosage as well as water twice (doing a thorough drench with the molasses and lighter watering in between).
This will "prime" the plant for flower, keeping the soil healthy, and encouraging the plants to use every last nute in that soil before I start adding nutrients - remembering that nutrients are salts and require an active microbiota in the soil to break them down and keep the plants from locking nutrients out due to salt build-up.
So - slowly increase dosage, use every 10+ days, start in late flower corresponding with your transplant to a larger pot (and fresh soil).
Other than that - it's about as useful as it gets. Most other info seems pretty bogus, and this is distilled version of all the shit I read - coincidentally, it is also the only information that everyone agrees on.
Good luck.
microbial warlock
Member
What is your sugar to water ratio?
garlictrain
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sorry for late response junior,
the jug stuff as in earth juice hi brix isn't formulated for plants anymore than the feed grade 79%brix 5gal bucket of molasses, but it's watered down so it's much easier to add to the rez and mix, especially in the colder months/ climates. that never stops me though as i usually premix in warm water. if a grocery bought 16oz jar of molasses is all you need then so be it.
what everyone needs to remember is application. would i run molasses in indoor hydro, flood tables or dwc, or anything with drip tubing for that matter? NO, i'd use the commercial sweet products as they are "cleaner" in the residual they leave. seeing as that this is a posting about sugars specific to outdoor growing, i would stick to the feed grade unsulphered for $30 /5 gal. at the same time I switch up the outdoor carbo feeding with botanicare sweet raw as well as floranectar sugarcane. I am a firm believer that there is no ONE single source so switching it up creates biodiversity among the microbes contained within the substrate.
also funny that no one has mentioned turbinado or muscovado powdered sugars. unrefined and cheap ($3-$4/lb), both are a great source of micro nutrients, just as molasses is. simply mix into the rez as you would anything else.
as for using honey for carbs, i see that as a total waste!
make mead or thc herbal honey remedy, good for allergies and so much more, or give it as gifts with a nice ribbon to those who appreciate the bees sacred gift!
if it's local and raw or "minimally filtered" $100/5gal is a steal! here in colorado when i buy bulk honey it's $130-$160 /5gal depending on type (orange blossom, clover).
hexthat
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who said use honey for carbs? i said all sugars including lactose are carbohydrates as well as THC is a carbohydrate ...and i only said that cause
i dump that shit in the soil to feed microorganisms, i floral spray with it, 2ml per gallon,
to feed the bacillus bactria which work great at killing bugs, if you spray too much you will get mold
...i dont like you
garlictrain
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Hi hexthat!
Sorry if I hit a nerve with the honey comment! The way you're using it I can see is NOT a TOTAL WASTE. In fact THANK YOU for posting your application rate as it is something I would like to know more about. I brew up a pure lacto bacillus culture (adapted from Korean natural farming) and use it 1:20 and add a little molasses to feed the bacteria before spraying. Honey is naturally anti-microbial as well as anti-fungal which is just a few reasons why it such a gift from the bees (and why I'd be hesitant to add it to any microbe or fungi tea or spray). Perhaps you're using it in such a low application rate that it doesn't have any negative effect on your microbes. I also use bees propolis for tooth aches and as a liquid band aid. Bees line their hives with propolis so that every time they enter they're disinfecting themselves so as not to contaminate the hive. I guess we use what we got right?
No ill will to you hexthat, good luck on your ventures!
Sorry if I hit a nerve with the honey comment! The way you're using it I can see is NOT a TOTAL WASTE. In fact THANK YOU for posting your application rate as it is something I would like to know more about. I brew up a pure lacto bacillus culture (adapted from Korean natural farming) and use it 1:20 and add a little molasses to feed the bacteria before spraying. Honey is naturally anti-microbial as well as anti-fungal which is just a few reasons why it such a gift from the bees (and why I'd be hesitant to add it to any microbe or fungi tea or spray). Perhaps you're using it in such a low application rate that it doesn't have any negative effect on your microbes. I also use bees propolis for tooth aches and as a liquid band aid. Bees line their hives with propolis so that every time they enter they're disinfecting themselves so as not to contaminate the hive. I guess we use what we got right?
No ill will to you hexthat, good luck on your ventures!