Fed up with my grow smelling musty everytime!

Doomhammer69

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OK will try. Lost all of last lot due to the musty smell so hopefully this time round will be better. Btw any idea what the leaves in the pic are indicating. As they went like that last grow. Maybe that might have contributed to things going south!
I have never grown Hydro before, but looking at the second photo,It looks like you have something growing on your medium? If that is moss or fungus I would say that cant be good. As for the yellowing of the leaves that is common during flower, I still dose mine with a little Nitro, during the first couple of weeks of flower then stop, I only get yellow and Autumn orange a week or two before harvest.
 

DST

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i wouldnt worry about the odd yellowing leaf. looks like salt build up on the medium. I think your problems are lying in the drying process. Slow it down. If you have product that has been tarnished, why don't you make some bubble hash or extracts from it as a suggestion.
 

Phar

Member
i wouldnt worry about the odd yellowing leaf. looks like salt build up on the medium. I think your problems are lying in the drying process. Slow it down. If you have product that has been tarnished, why don't you make some bubble hash or extracts from it as a suggestion.
I think that might be it as the leaves look very crystalline. How do I avoid salt build up and how does it occur?
 

DST

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It's the water you are using. Generally means there's calcium in your water. Not always a bad thing to be honest. You can use RO water to avoid it but I wouldn't say it's necessary. Looking at the plants there they are nice and green so I don't think it's having a detrimental effect. I would concentrate on increasing that drying time.
 

Bear420

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It seems I am doing something seriously wrong as each time my gear turns out smelling musty even after following all the drying guidelines. This time I try a different strain (lemon kush) and again nothing but musty smell. Is there anything else that effect smell. Could it be to do with feed or something I am not adding to the hydro water etc?
Phar. I have just one question. Is anyone in your house Burning Incense ? When Drying I have a friend has exact same strains I do and his always smells and tastes Musty. We Narrowed it down to his Wife Burning it all the time, and She Stopped while he was drying the last Batch and Guess what, No Musty at all, Its just my Opinion But I think anything around when Drying can be absorbed into it. Now That's just MO But they have not had issues since. Good luck hope it goes away,
 

Be kind

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By the pic it seems that your parts per million is very high, especially the tap water, use RO water, and PH correctly and use cal mag to help protect deficiency. If your using hydro your parts per million shouldn't have to get over 900 per million for optimal results. If you put to much nutes in you will have a hard time getting it out even with a proper 2 week flushing
 

Phar

Member
In reply no not burning any incense and I think ppm might be high so will keep an eye on that. also Buds yes I think you're right, me and curing just dont get on so I'll take your advise for sure!
 

MR_Nice

New Member
1700 ppm is high mate, I just finished my master kush grow and never went over 700PPM IN COCO.

My plants were only 2feet tall tho.
 

weednurd420

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A good drying and curing process is a critical step in the production of high quality cannabis. During this process you can lose, preserve, or enhance the odour, taste, and potency of your cannabis. A bad drying process can even ruin the best quality buds. It’s a painfully time consuming process, but the patient grower will be rewarded with some buds that have a much better taste and a much better high.

Drying of fresh cannabis buds
During the drying process the water content of the buds needs to be reduced from 75% to 10-15%. Usually this will take around 10 to 14 days. The most popular method is cutting the branches with the buds, trimming the leaves and hanging them upside down in a room or cabinet. Try to keep the branches from touching each other to avoid uneven drying and mould. It’s best to get rid of the biggest amount of moisture in the first 3 days. After these 3 days the drying process should be slowed down a bit.

When drying fresh cannabis buds the proper way the following circumstances are required:

Temperature. In the first 3 days the best temperature is around 20 degrees Celsius. This way the buds will dry quick, but not too fast. After 3 days the temperature should be lowered to about 17-18 degrees Celsius to slow down the process.

Humidity. In the first 3 days the relative humidity should be around 50%. After three days the relative humidity should rise to about 60%, again with the reason to slow down the drying process.

Air circulation. It’s very important there’s enough air circulation in the room, so it’s advisable to use an electric driven fan. A ventilation fan can also come in handy to control the temperature and humidity. Don’t point the fan directly on the buds though, this will dry the cannabis buds unevenly.

Darkness. The room should be relatively dark as light, especially direct sunlight, degrades THC.

The buds are dried when you can easily snap the stem. If it bends, it needs some more time. You will know when it happens… The curing of dried cannabis
  1. When the buds are properly dried, it’s time to cure and store the finished product in an airtight glass jar. Even after a proper drying period of 10-14 days a little chlorophyll and other pigments will be left and will continue to break down.

    The whole curing period takes from 2 weeks to 2 months, depending on how the grower wants his buds. And on how much patience he has. There are cannabis connoisseurs out there who only smoke cannabis which is cured for at least 1 year.

    The cannabis needs to be put loosely in a jar and the jar needs to be filled for a maximum of 2/3, since the buds need some air to breath. The jar needs to be placed in a cool and dark place. It is very important in the first 2 weeks to check the buds at least once a day to replace the air and check for growth of mould and mildew. After 2 weeks the jar needs to be opened and checked only 1-2 times a week.

    Curing good quality cannabis buds is like ageing an exquisite wine. It needs time to develop that intensity of flavour. It needs time to reach that rich and smooth lingering taste. It needs time to achieve that complex and refined philosophical high.

    Surprise yourself and your friends; take your time with drying and curing your cannabis. It will be worth it…




18/01/12
A good drying and curing process is a critical step in the production of high quality cannabis. During this process you can lose, preserve, or enhance the odour, taste, and potency of your cannabis. A bad drying process can even ruin the best quality buds. It’s a painfully time consuming process, but the patient grower will be rewarded with some buds that have a much better taste and a much better high.

Drying of fresh cannabis buds
During the drying process the water content of the buds needs to be reduced from 75% to 10-15%. Usually this will take around 10 to 14 days. The most popular method is cutting the branches with the buds, trimming the leaves and hanging them upside down in a room or cabinet. Try to keep the branches from touching each other to avoid uneven drying and mould. It’s best to get rid of the biggest amount of moisture in the first 3 days. After these 3 days the drying process should be slowed down a bit.

When drying fresh cannabis buds the proper way the following circumstances are required:

Temperature. In the first 3 days the best temperature is around 20 degrees Celsius. This way the buds will dry quick, but not too fast. After 3 days the temperature should be lowered to about 17-18 degrees Celsius to slow down the process.

Humidity. In the first 3 days the relative humidity should be around 50%. After three days the relative humidity should rise to about 60%, again with the reason to slow down the drying process.

Air circulation. It’s very important there’s enough air circulation in the room, so it’s advisable to use an electric driven fan. A ventilation fan can also come in handy to control the temperature and humidity. Don’t point the fan directly on the buds though, this will dry the cannabis buds unevenly.

Darkness. The room should be relatively dark as light, especially direct sunlight, degrades THC.

The buds are dried when you can easily snap the stem. If it bends, it needs some more time. You will know when it happens…



It’s very important not to dry the buds too fast. During drying not only moisture, but also chlorophyll and other pigments within plant tissue will evaporate and leave the buds. If the buds are dried too quickly, some of these pigments don’t have enough time to leave the buds and will end up in the final product. Cannabis with a high amount of chlorophyll often has a bitter, ‘green’ taste and smell, by many compared to stinky hay. So enough reason not to speed up things too fast.

Last important note about drying cannabis. When fresh cannabis buds are drying they give off anextremely strong smell, especially in the first few days. So if you need to be discreet, take care of enough odour control.

The curing of dried cannabis
When the buds are properly dried, it’s time to cure and store the finished product in an airtight glass jar. Even after a proper drying period of 10-14 days a little chlorophyll and other pigments will be left and will continue to break down.

The whole curing period takes from 2 weeks to 2 months, depending on how the grower wants his buds. And on how much patience he has. There are cannabis connoisseurs out there who only smoke cannabis which is cured for at least 1 year.

The cannabis needs to be put loosely in a jar and the jar needs to be filled for a maximum of 2/3, since the buds need some air to breath. The jar needs to be placed in a cool and dark place. It is very important in the first 2 weeks to check the buds at least once a day to replace the air and check for growth of mould and mildew. After 2 weeks the jar needs to be opened and checked only 1-2 times a week.

Curing good quality cannabis buds is like ageing an exquisite wine. It needs time to develop that intensity of flavour. It needs time to reach that rich and smooth lingering taste. It needs time to achieve that complex and refined philosophical high.

Surprise yourself and your friends; take your time with drying and curing your cannabis. It will be worth it…
 

hondagrower420

Well-Known Member
Then I suggest a reverse osmosis system.
How do you know his ppm is too high?

There are different scales for ppm so you can't possible know.

Stop handing out false info. 1700ppm could be 2.4ec or 3.3ec.

It depends on the conversion factor, which the op has not giving info on.

Op, what brand tds meter? Truncheon?
 

hondagrower420

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I feed @ 2.0ec-2.4ec during peak flowering depending on strain.

It's called pushing your plants limits and results in really nice plants.

Op's problem is that he is drying to fast or not letting the bud ripen.

Hay, cut grass smell only comes from quick dry or immature bud.
 

Phar

Member
How do you know his ppm is too high?

There are different scales for ppm so you can't possible know.

Stop handing out false info. 1700ppm could be 2.4ec or 3.3ec.

It depends on the conversion factor, which the op has not giving info on.

Op, what brand tds meter? Truncheon?
Don't know what make it is. It's just a digital meter with TDS-3 on it.

Also I've just checked water company data and it says my areas water is 'very hard'. Should that concern me? If so how can I adjust it accordingly without resorting to buying Osmosis equipment.
 
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