Wow this thread devolved fast, just want to treat pain.
@Beehive I've had a long and ... enjoyable history with Kratom, but I've cut it (and everything else other then weed) out of my uh 'diet'. It's for a variety of reasons but I just don't want to start using it again and it can antagonize a condition called 'rebound migraine' so I just want to stick with weed.