Faster Clone Rooting Experiment. Dyna-Grow Vs GH with new custom clone feed

BobBitchen said:

No problem bro..
I was also having a bad day.
Shoulda kept my mouth shut.
We're good.

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Cool.. I know I could learn something new from you as I never know enough and always willing to learn more as I research every day to try and improve and someone with your knowledge can be a huge help to me with things I have not really experienced yet. I appreciate you accepting my apology.

blackflag_demo said:

Do you have a conversion for soil application?

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My soil mix is now

Plus-C Mychorraze at 1 oz per gallon. Careful doing this on younger plants as it makes the plants suck up nutes MUCH faster and you could burn younger plants to death going full strength nutes.

Protekt from Dyna-Gro 1/2 tsp/g

Superthrive 1/4 tsp/g

GH flora nutes at aggressive feed guidelines on bottle

Acadian kelp at 1/3 tsp/g I use this because it is one of the kelps that actually contains Tryptophan and is why I use the Raw brand Amino Acids. I have found that most kelps and amino acids do not contain this. ( unless they just do not list it or their rep's at their company just do not know ) )but have researched many and most have none per their companies responses to me

Full power fulvic acid at a 5:2 ratio with the kelp ( example 1 tsp kelp to 2-1/2 tsp fulvic acid or fulvic acid at 2-1/2 times the amount of kelp ) studies have found this works up to 10 or 30 times better then either alone) I can not remember the exact % of how much better it worked when combining at this ratio so that 10-30 times was a guess cuz I am to lazy to look it back up

1/8 to 1/4 tsp Raw brand Amino acids. I have been going back and forth and it seems that 1/4 tsp/g works a lot better than 1/8 tsp/g works way better on raising brix but I have not confirmed yet but I will have a definite this week.

Also I will use sometimes yucca extract brand Nector for the God's at 1/2 oz per/g to help penetrate my soil better. Although I do not really have issues with it compacting like when I used other brands than my sunshine Mix #4 black bag.. I will still use just to make sure I get that water penetration in case there is a clump somewhere in the pot. This basically makes water wetter and makes it easier to penetrate soil that is or gets compacted as I have experienced with Foc Farms when I used it in the past.

PPM around 1400

I PH to 5.8 and get a runoff of about 6.2- - 6.4 PH


Hope this helps you

So GH has smashed Dyna Grow .. Higher brix in soil with GH hitting 15's Dyna hitting high 13's
Roots in 4-6 days with GH and 7-8 some strains ..
Dyna 8-10 days and up to 12 on hard strains

Experiment completed.

Winner recipe

Cube soak for 24 hours PH 5.5-5.6

K-L-N
ASL Kelp
superthrive
plus c

Soak cuttings in same mix above

Water cuttings with same as above

As root bumps start to form I add
cal mag, fulvic acid and 1/4 strength seedling nute GH mix

Full root formation I give

1200ppm mix

kelp
GH flora
protekt
superthrive
fulvic acid
amino acids
cal mag


Same feed as moms

Ok so it seems I got a nice recipe down for moms. Brix up to near 16% or more.. Got clones with roots like these in 4 days 18-22 hours. New recipe complete

Mom Feed

Plus-C or Photosynthesis plus depending on state your in. 1 oz per/g
Superthrive 1/4 tsp/g
Acadian Kelp extract ( this stuff is the bomb ) 1/4 tsp /g
Cal-Mag 3 ml/g
General Hydro flora series aggressive feed 2 micro 3 grow 1 bloom tsp/g
2 and 1/2 times Ful-power fulvic acid than kelp Example 1 cup kelp = 2 and 1/2 cup Ful-Power
Some Yucca

Clone feed

Spray with Clones mist ONCE right after cutting and inserted in cube using rootech gel

Rock wool soak and clone feed the same

Cal-Mag 1.5 ml/g
Superthrive 1/4 tsp/g
1 oz/g Plus-C
1/4 tsp Kelp
1-1/2 tsp/g K-L-N
Ph- 5.5-5.7
Soak cubes for 12 hours
use same mix to water cubes
not the normal 1.5 inch cubes the ones a step down in size.
They are a little harder and made for seedlings but this makes roots come out fatter than the larger cubes will update sample pics later today

When roots start to form

I add to mix above fulvic acid at same ratio as mom feed recipe 5:2
and 1/2 strength Fiora series from GH

There ya go.. Dome them for 2-3 days take off dome watch cubes they dry out faster than bigger ones put in tray so they are suspended not directly on perlite if that is what you use or any other medium.. Needs to be watered 2 times a day..

DO NOT FOLIAR SPRAY CUTS

4 days and 20-22 hours

full 5 days full 7 days and full ten day

Now even when I use this mix when they are still in cubes when I start to give them nute feed and because in cubes the roots sometimes will brown. Well all you have to do is give them the final cube soak and feed recipe and you will have new roots exploding off your cuts in a matter of 1 day thick fuzzy and white.

Experiment #2:

Adding a root accelerator to improve mass and latteral growth

New brix levels for Veg in and it is insane high.. PERFECT RECIPE IS NOW DONE. New mom recipe dialed in Brix is an UNREAL high. Has climbed every since I changed to new formula. Clones now have insane lateral growth, fastest rooting time is for my Critical Kush and that starts at 3 days 19-1/2 hours after cubed which is 1 hour after cut so realistically it is 3 days and almost 21 hours. I am not going to say what my mother plant brix level is because it's just insane. I will just show you the test I just did a couple hours ago
Enjoy. This was a lot and I mean a LOT of research and used all my knowledge from the past 20 years and I finally can say that I really achieved something great this time. Have lowest brix and highest posted. Enjoy
Now I just put a couple mom plants into flowering because I want to see what the turnout is..
Lighting in flowering room.
Gavita 1000w
Plasma 41.02 270e 300w
T5 with eye hortilux 460 nanometer bulbs 1/2 below canopy 1/2 above
4, 35 watt Far red LED lights
13.5 hours lights
10.5 hours dark
Expected Yield off 4x4 area with 7 plants 3.5 pounds

Pic of roots is at a full 4 days or 96 hours.

COMMENTS WELCOME!