Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Kite High

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Slab said:
Haha, these guys might need the help of a 10% solution.

a purist, I can dig it Kite high.
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I respect you Slab and hope I have earned yours as well...

Imean itsa a lil aggravating when you try to help but they act like you do not know shit... All I did was share some real info and get slammed for doing it by some kids who think they are the first onesto discover this when I been growing since I was chasing theiir mothers for the pussy...you know?well I guess I will just quit helping and sharing my knowledge that I EARNED FROM STUDY AND EXPERIENCE...not from what others think they know

Thank you for being real Slab
 
Slab

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Kite High said:
I respect you Slab and hope I have earned yours as well...

Imean itsa a lil aggravating when you try to help but they act like you do not know shit... All I did was share some real info and get slammed for doing it by some kids who think they are the first onesto discover this when I been growing since I was chasing theiir mothers for the pussy...you know?well I guess I will just quit helping and sharing my knowledge that I EARNED FROM STUDY AND EXPERIENCE...not from what others think they know

Thank you for being real Slab
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The only solace you can take is when the finally remove their heads out their asses they will be dealing with the same resistance
We get now.
 
Kite High

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PJ Diaz said:
I usually only foliar spray with liquid karma, and don't spray with anything after week 4 of flower. I also follow with a water only spray a few days later if past week 2. Best to spray the bottom of the leaf because as UB points out stomata are on the bottom of the leaf and that's what absorbs the nutes.

I agree largely with Kite High, and IMO he's one of the best growers on this site. I use Foliage-Pro as part of my nutes all the way through, but I also combine with PureBlend Pro Bloom and Instant Kharma because I like a rounded mix of nutes from different sources, and those two also include yummy things like folic acid. The other supplement I include is Pro-Tekt from DG, which I've discovered helps a lot when growing in an inert medium.

In general if your gonna foliar feed do it at half a strength or less of what you would feed the roots.
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I must admit that I like liquid karma as well and use it on half of my plants to see what it does and I am impressed and will test it again soon and probably add it to my regime

Thank you for the complement and you are very knowledgeable as well..as a matter of fact I am perplexed a bit by you and UB's chopping on each other as you and he actually agree in your knowledge and ideas on at least 90% of what I read from you and him...I see that with you it is his abrasiveness not knowledge that you are bucking and with him he has labeled you a fool and likes having you around to beat up...lol

I see you on icmag and read your entire reflector thread...I also saw the greeners chart and man for the buck them radiants are bad ass eh? I really am in love with my PL Deeps...the light is so well dispersed that at 24 inches in a 3x3 there is only a 700 ftc difference between directly below the bulb compared to the furthest corners lowest reading! And most amazingly this is with 400 watts and uniform to both the hoods. You a good dude PJ and really so is UB...and believe me he knows what the fuck he is talking about and forgot more about growing these plants than I will ever even know...and he is rock solid ol school kill a snitch OG to boot...not like the sell out Rosenthal's and Skunkmans

And you an awesome growerws as well...keep on keeping on...there are lotsa REAL knowledgeable and helpful growers on icmag...like whazzup..he really is the yoda of growing:weed:

KEEP 'EM GREEN
 
Dank Raptor

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Looks like this grow had some defoliation requirements.

[video=youtube;IVBR5EPsiiI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVBR5EPsiiI[/video]
 
PJ Diaz

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Kite High said:
PJ Diaz said:
I usually only foliar spray with liquid karma, and don't spray with anything after week 4 of flower. I also follow with a water only spray a few days later if past week 2. Best to spray the bottom of the leaf because as UB points out stomata are on the bottom of the leaf and that's what absorbs the nutes.

I agree largely with Kite High, and IMO he's one of the best growers on this site. I use Foliage-Pro as part of my nutes all the way through, but I also combine with PureBlend Pro Bloom and Instant Kharma because I like a rounded mix of nutes from different sources, and those two also include yummy things like folic acid. The other supplement I include is Pro-Tekt from DG, which I've discovered helps a lot when growing in an inert medium.

In general if your gonna foliar feed do it at half a strength or less of what you would feed the roots.
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I must admit that I like liquid karma as well and use it on half of my plants to see what it does and I am impressed and will test it again soon and probably add it to my regime

Thank you for the complement and you are very knowledgeable as well..as a matter of fact I am perplexed a bit by you and UB's chopping on each other as you and he actually agree in your knowledge and ideas on at least 90% of what I read from you and him...I see that with you it is his abrasiveness not knowledge that you are bucking and with him he has labeled you a fool and likes having you around to beat up...lol

I see you on icmag and read your entire reflector thread...I also saw the greeners chart and man for the buck them radiants are bad ass eh? I really am in love with my PL Deeps...the light is so well dispersed that at 24 inches in a 3x3 there is only a 700 ftc difference between directly below the bulb compared to the furthest corners lowest reading! And most amazingly this is with 400 watts and uniform to both the hoods. You a good dude PJ and really so is UB...and believe me he knows what the fuck he is talking about and forgot more about growing these plants than I will ever even know...and he is rock solid ol school kill a snitch OG to boot...not like the sell out Rosenthal's and Skunkmans

And you an awesome growerws as well...keep on keeping on...there are lotsa REAL knowledgeable and helpful growers on icmag...like whazzup..he really is the yoda of growing:weed:

KEEP 'EM GREEN
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Thanks Bro. I think you pretty much hit the head on the nail there.
 
Slab

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Ha, yeah usually when I think have a good idea. That's the cue to get a second opinion. Chomping on the bit to give nutrients I know myself
 
Slab

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Dank Raptor said:
Looks like this grow had some defoliation requirements.

[video=youtube;IVBR5EPsiiI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVBR5EPsiiI[/video]
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Commercial growing you 'big leaf' them a couple of days before you take them down, to speed processing. Lets see if that's what they did.
 
Kite High

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Slab said:
The only solace you can take is when the finally remove their heads out their asses they will be dealing with the same resistance
We get now.
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yeah but look around here ...theres bunches that say they have been growing for years and the shit they tell people makes you go huh? Yeah hopefully they stick to it long enough (check out craigslist all the brand new equipment for sale dirt cheap cause they kill a plant and quit) and actually learn something huh? lol
 
keebo3000

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Kite High said:
now yes they do like a little shower of WATER and do not think I do not know there are many benefits for foliar application of nutrients...I was merely pointing out that you can keep them green until the end WITHOUT foliar feeding by applying N and not applying high P...IOW that foliar isn't required for the green to the end outcome
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thanks, still learning. not ashamed to admit it.
 
keebo3000

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Kite High said:
I respect you Slab and hope I have earned yours as well...

Imean itsa a lil aggravating when you try to help but they act like you do not know shit... All I did was share some real info and get slammed for doing it by some kids who think they are the first onesto discover this when I been growing since I was chasing theiir mothers for the pussy...you know?well I guess I will just quit helping and sharing my knowledge that I EARNED FROM STUDY AND EXPERIENCE...not from what others think they know

Thank you for being real Slab
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woah.... no offense meant. just wanted the mans opinion......... .... damn. was my mother sexy? lol
 
PJ Diaz

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keebo3000 said:
thanks, still learning. not ashamed to admit it.
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As am I.

I'm not a pro grower but I'm not a noob either. I'm not a botanist but I have taken some classes. I grew my first plant 20 years ago, but only have a couple of years indoor experience. I'm still experimenting, but that doesn't mean I'm a fucking idiot like Uncle Ben tries to make me seem. Nor does it mean that someone who wants to grow a plant without any formal education should be subjected to insults and make to feel like an idiot. They should be encouraged and supported by their elders. Otherwise the elders might as well just fuck off, because the younger generations will reject their wisdom.
 
Kite High

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keebo3000 said:
thanks, still learning. not ashamed to admit it.
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was your request of a picture that set me off a bit then here comes other dude talking smack....lol

Man let me tell you HB is a grower I learned and continue to learn from ...knows his shit is HONEST and grows some of the best herb I have ever enjoyed...great one to pursue for knowledge no doubt..I was only implying what it was that keeps em green... not trying to interfere with your seeking but add to what you seek...follow? PLEASE LEARN from people who actually have been growing for a good while and dont go for the hype...go for the truth...and TRY it all...things that work for YOU in YOUR garden keep doing..things that dont stop doing...most important thing is genetics...go after the real deal solid genetics not the pollen chunckers...and ALL of your environmental elements needs to be in controlled and monitored...all of it temps rh light air water...believe it or not in all actuality the feeding is easy peasy once you listen to and watch what the "PLANTS" are telling you and do what they say not what you think they need...the plants will teach you better than a thousands books forums and old farts like me...if you learn to hear and see their truth

And oh yeah I learn all the time...like when I cooked my plants because my cap relay didn't work as promised...so now fuck cap products...gonna switch brands...I am finding sunlight supplies products superior to RandM supply speaking of which they RandM recently closed down their Frostbox division...I know why partially as I had to return a 12000 btu minisplit to them for refund and also that they are in dire financial trouble with a D- credit rating to their SUPPLIERS so methinks they will go under on near future which sux because they just acquired quantum digi ballast which is the brand I like most if and when I decide to drop mag coil...though I doubt I would any ways cuse these built like a tank mag coils last forever
 
keebo3000

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PJ Diaz said:
As am I.

I'm not a pro grower but I'm not a noob either. I'm not a botanist but I have taken some classes. I grew my first plant 20 years ago, but only have a couple of years indoor experience. I'm still experimenting, but that doesn't mean I'm a fucking idiot like Uncle Ben tries to make me seem. Nor does it mean that someone who wants to grow a plant without any formal education should be subjected to insults and make to feel like an idiot. They should be encouraged and supported by their elders. Otherwise the elders might as well just fuck off, because the younger generations will reject their wisdom.
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i grew my first plant 10 months ago!! lol super newb here!! lol
 
keebo3000

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Kite High said:
was your request of a picture that set me off a bit then here comes other dude talking smack....lol

Man let me tell you HB is a grower I learned and continue to learn from ...knows his shit is HONEST and grows some of the best herb I have ever enjoyed...great one to pursue for knowledge no doubt..I was only implying what it was that keeps em green... not trying to interfere with your seeking but add to what you seek...follow? PLEASE LEARN from people who actually have been growing for a good while and dont go for the hype...go for the truth...and TRY it all...things that work for YOU in YOUR garden keep doing..things that dont stop doing...most important thing is genetics...go after the real deal solid genetics not the pollen chunckers...and ALL of your environmental elements needs to be in controlled and monitored...all of it temps rh light air water...believe it or not in all actuality the feeding is easy peasy once you listen to and watch what the "PLANTS" are telling you and do what they say not what you think they need...the plants will teach you better than a thousands books forums and old farts like me...if you learn to hear and see their truth
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i also admit i've been a lil put off recently on this forum. it seems like to every post i make older growers chime in and attempt to poop all over my thoughts and ideas and spout off about plant knowledge and tomatoes and scold me for not starting growing before, for not using the right nutrients, honestly i got the idea to start growing from watching "weeds". and the nutrient i saw advertised was what i bought, how was i to know it was the "devil". i feel their are other ways to educate than to get upset at someone for not knowing as much as you do.... that being said i have noticed my self getting a lil more snippy since joining this thread..... i just took my testosterone gel ( the 1.6 baby!!!) so I should man back up the morning. LOL
 
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