Extreme frustration

Mrs. Weedstein

Mrs. Weedstein

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So I bit the bullet and spent more than $300 building a hoophouse to protect my crop from the rain after a bud rot outbreak last year.

Seemed to be working fine until today, where several of my best colas were afflicted with bud rot out of nowhere. They were fine yesterday. I had to cut probably a half ounce but will probably find more tomorrow.

So even though my hoophouse was working fine and the plants were dry as fuck during the heaviest rainstorms, the air moisture still managed to fuck them up.

I feel like I wasted the $300 but know it would have been worse with no cover. I’m annoyed as hell the varieties I have been breeding have proven so weak though. I suppose this is what I should expect, since the season has basically gone off without a hitch until now.

In any case, not sure there’s a question here other than: Am I dumb for not realizing the damage simple air moisture will cause? I figured my bud rot problems of the past were entirely due to rain falling directly on the flower. Now I realize I may be fucked despite the new hoophouse that I perhaps shouldn’t have spent so much time and money on.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Mrs. Weedstein said:
So I bit the bullet and spent more than $300 building a hoophouse to protect my crop from the rain after a bud rot outbreak last year.

Seemed to be working fine until today, where several of my best colas were afflicted with bud rot out of nowhere. They were fine yesterday. I had to cut probably a half ounce but will probably find more tomorrow.

So even though my hoophouse was working fine and the plants were dry as fuck during the heaviest rainstorms, the air moisture still managed to fuck them up.

I feel like I wasted the $300 but know it would have been worse with no cover. I’m annoyed as hell the varieties I have been breeding have proven so weak though. I suppose this is what I should expect, since the season has basically gone off without a hitch until now.

In any case, not sure there’s a question here other than: Am I dumb for not realizing the damage simple air moisture will cause? I figured my bud rot problems of the past were entirely due to rain falling directly on the flower. Now I realize I may be fucked despite the new hoophouse that I perhaps shouldn’t have spent so much time and money on.
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Think of it like a vintage.
Experienced vintners can only do so much about a crap growing season.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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Mrs. Weedstein said:
So I bit the bullet and spent more than $300 building a hoophouse to protect my crop from the rain after a bud rot outbreak last year.

Seemed to be working fine until today, where several of my best colas were afflicted with bud rot out of nowhere. They were fine yesterday. I had to cut probably a half ounce but will probably find more tomorrow.

So even though my hoophouse was working fine and the plants were dry as fuck during the heaviest rainstorms, the air moisture still managed to fuck them up.

I feel like I wasted the $300 but know it would have been worse with no cover. I’m annoyed as hell the varieties I have been breeding have proven so weak though. I suppose this is what I should expect, since the season has basically gone off without a hitch until now.

In any case, not sure there’s a question here other than: Am I dumb for not realizing the damage simple air moisture will cause? I figured my bud rot problems of the past were entirely due to rain falling directly on the flower. Now I realize I may be fucked despite the new hoophouse that I perhaps shouldn’t have spent so much time and money on.
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I'm just a dirt schooled hobbiest. But isn't bud rot moth and and caterpillar based? I use a bug zapper 20' away and a bird feeder around the same at 5' off the ground. Kills my moths by a bunch. And I collect FREE brix under the lamp. I was also told to use yellow sticky strips inside all outdoor enclosures. I still lost "about a pound" to the pests. Last hatch should be done this week here. 2020 FIASCAL 001.jpg041.jpg042.jpg
 
Maggs707

Maggs707

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Mrs. Weedstein said:
So I bit the bullet and spent more than $300 building a hoophouse to protect my crop from the rain after a bud rot outbreak last year.

Seemed to be working fine until today, where several of my best colas were afflicted with bud rot out of nowhere. They were fine yesterday. I had to cut probably a half ounce but will probably find more tomorrow.

So even though my hoophouse was working fine and the plants were dry as fuck during the heaviest rainstorms, the air moisture still managed to fuck them up.

I feel like I wasted the $300 but know it would have been worse with no cover. I’m annoyed as hell the varieties I have been breeding have proven so weak though. I suppose this is what I should expect, since the season has basically gone off without a hitch until now.

In any case, not sure there’s a question here other than: Am I dumb for not realizing the damage simple air moisture will cause? I figured my bud rot problems of the past were entirely due to rain falling directly on the flower. Now I realize I may be fucked despite the new hoophouse that I perhaps shouldn’t have spent so much time and money on.
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Oh man. Sorry to hear that. I think $300 for a hoop house is a great investment. Heavy rain on flowering plants is a nightmare! I've had plants get dimples on and just completely broken and destroyed by rain. But yeah, there's not a whole lot you can do to protect them from that high humidity when you're outdoors. Besides using heaters and dehumidifiers to lower RH, the best you can do is make sure you've got great circulation in there. Roll the sides up and get a cross breeze going. As far as the existing rot goes, it's a nightmare but get some ziplock bags, place them carefully over the rotten colas, then snip and zip the bags. Get as much of it out as you can. Strategically use some Serenade spray to hit affected colas that aren't totally destroyed and just pray man! Good luck. No way to stop that shit once it gets going, but you can slow it down.
 
Maggs707

Maggs707

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MICHI-CAN said:
I'm just a dirt schooled hobbiest. But isn't bud rot moth and and caterpillar based? I use a bug zapper 20' away and a bird feeder around the same at 5' off the ground. Kills my moths by a bunch. And I collect FREE brix under the lamp. I was also told to use yellow sticky strips inside all outdoor enclosures. I still lost "about a pound" to the pests. Last hatch should be done this week here. View attachment 4697275View attachment 4697276View attachment 4697277
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Botrytis has nothing to do with moths and caterpillars.
 
WintersBones

WintersBones

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That really sucks dude. That's a tough one. I was experimenting with growing in a greenhouse this summer and I had bud rot problems as well even though the plant never got wet directly, and I had a fan blowing on it the whole time. Just due to high RH i think. So I'm rethinking my own strategy for next year to get more air moving through. Did you think about air movement with your design?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
WintersBones said:
That really sucks dude. That's a tough one. I was experimenting with growing in a greenhouse this summer and I had bud rot problems as well even though the plant never got wet directly, and I had a fan blowing on it the whole time. Just due to high RH i think. So I'm rethinking my own strategy for next year to get more air moving through. Did you think about air movement with your design?
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~coughs shyly~ Mrs. Dude?
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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WintersBones said:
That really sucks dude. That's a tough one. I was experimenting with growing in a greenhouse this summer and I had bud rot problems as well even though the plant never got wet directly, and I had a fan blowing on it the whole time. Just due to high RH i think. So I'm rethinking my own strategy for next year to get more air moving through. Did you think about air movement with your design?
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I had mine in open air when first noticed. No greenhouse yet. Police advised soon after. New to the nuances of that promising mess. TY.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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Maggs707 said:
You just had 2 separate problems that weren't related. Microscopic spores that germinate and grow in high humidity are what cause bud rot
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Here I go again. I may be stupid. If so I'm damn lucky. My climate was borderline drought. Upper 80's to mid 90's. 60% rh max 45-50 avg for weeks. Yes, wet. Crazy winds and over 90% possible sun. Moths from hell this year. Had rot at this time. Put up greenhouse weeks later. Very few further occurrences. PM after a week in high humidity and poor air flow with lows in the upper 50's. Expected.

I know these facts. Trying to wrap my head around the variables and gain input. Serious health issue that we all need to understand. Thank you again.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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The Gram Reaper said:
Sucks to hear about your grow, that's a lot of effort for a loss. A lot of people battling PM right now around me. Seems to be a shitty year for a lot of people.
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Appreciated.Extreme defol and regalia and low humidity of late have me almost back on track. If I have to send it to the landfill? It goes. Expensive lesson. Make up for it next year. Turn a sanitary indoor or 2 until I play in the sandbox again. 004.jpg
 
Mrs. Weedstein

Mrs. Weedstein

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MICHI-CAN said:
I'm just a dirt schooled hobbiest. But isn't bud rot moth and and caterpillar based? I use a bug zapper 20' away and a bird feeder around the same at 5' off the ground. Kills my moths by a bunch. And I collect FREE brix under the lamp. I was also told to use yellow sticky strips inside all outdoor enclosures. I still lost "about a pound" to the pests. Last hatch should be done this week here. View attachment 4697275View attachment 4697276View attachment 4697277
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Thanks but I don’t think it’s a vector issue.
 
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