Lovely job, sir, thanks. So you think it's a pH/lockout issue? In my original post I said what the pH of the system is (or my tragic attempts at measuring it, anyway..) - from eveything I've read I think it's too high but no-one else seems bothered, so I'm just going to keep an eye on things. If you disagree, or I've missed what you're trying to say, please jump back in.
Hey man, of course you're absolutely right. I really read every bit of info I could to do the best job, and thought the lights being so close (in the correct temps range) was a stroke of genuis. Turns out I'm a dick! But hey ho, we live and learn. Cheers again for the info though dude.Don't worry m8, most common cause of problems for new growers is loving them to death (over watering over feeding, general fussing lol, lights too close)
you have to learn to let them grow and stop fussing over them, with practice it will come
weed plants for the most part are very hardy/sturdy despite all the talk of stress in thread after thread after thread
stress is a cover word for "grower error" lol
less is more so to speak
good luck
Run-off is NO indicator of pH. Here's how to get a pH reading of the actual soil:Hey man, thanks for jumping in. I should've qualified that..you're right it's low. I was going for about 6.2 at the beginning of the grow, but bought it down because of the high pH of the run-off. It seems a lot of folks are happy running a little under 6.0 in soil.
I'm beginning to think she's suffering from a case of underwatering whilst being too close to the lights, but not ruling out your nute lockout just yet..
Hey dude, I did say in my original post that I know there are issues surrounding measuring pH the way I did. But I looked at your link and I don't think I've seen the correct solution written so clearly & intelligently before, so thanks for that. If you wrote it, hats off to you. Just in case you're still online, will that method work with a small sample from the left-over soil I have in the bag? Or has it undergone changes since being planted etc?
Check whats in the bag and compare that to your actual soil and see if it has drifted. I'd say it hasn't. Not by more than a point or 2.
Sweet! Good job man, it was easy to understand. I've read similar approaches before, but they always get over-complicated or confusing, at which point I just assume the author is winging it. So I'm gonna do that this afternoon and see what happens. Seems weird that the pH of the run-off is higher than both the stated soil pH and the water I'm adding. Points to an inaccurate measurement method methinks, so I appreciate your info. I'll try not to hassle you again!Yes, I wrote it, and yes it will give you the pH of any sample. Glad you understood it!! pH is a real bitch to get your mind around.
haha...it's cool dude...you can't offend me, I ain't got but 2 feelings and my wife owns them...lol...they're your plants you can do what you want...but as I can see after all this it is the light being to close and over watering...but hey like I said there your plants...lol...Wow, thank you everyone.
Ok, so... no it's not too hot. I learned the 'hand test' a while ago, and it's fine - corroborated, like I say, by a thermometer that is slightly more under the light than the plant is.
It's not wet - or rather it is, because I'd just watered her. I think if anything, she was too dry. Bit embarrassed about that one, but I've only been watering small amounts, which tonight's research suggests is a bad idea.
Riknstein..18 inches? Really? I'm an utter newb (but a sound engineer, so I know how the inverse square law works), but surely I'd lose too much light that way? No? Will you be mortally offended if I just go with 6 or so? Can I ask if anyone else has a similar problem with a 400W HPS at 5 or 6 inches (12-15cm)?
Thanks again for all the replies, guys, appreciate it.
Sweet! Good job man, it was easy to understand. I've read similar approaches before, but they always get over-complicated or confusing, at which point I just assume the author is winging it. So I'm gonna do that this afternoon and see what happens. Seems weird that the pH of the run-off is higher than both the stated soil pH and the water I'm adding. Points to an inaccurate measurement method methinks, so I appreciate your info. I'll try not to hassle you again!
I've recommended it before, and I'll recommend it again...this is a "supersoil" recipe I found here on this forum https://www.rollitup.org/organics/539844-subs-supersoil.html it has everything your young plant needs to grow big and beautiful...not to mention it will take care of the PH and NUTRIENTS it needs...DISCLAIMER: You need to start beans in a seed starter mix before transplanting into the supersoil...this is what it has done for my plants...
Dude..I was going to post again to say I ended up following your advice in the end.kiss-ass (dammit I love that smilie) About 18 inches up was where it felt most comfortable when I was adjusting the light. So thank you for that, and for the recipe, that's really cool. I'm moving towards some sort of perpetual grow type/thing/maybe, and your plants look amazing! Hopefully I'll post some pics of happier plants soon.
Oh man, I don't mean to question everyone who takes the time to respond, but really? I've seen the attached chart everywhere - is it incorrect or am I reading it wrong? View attachment 2870890
I know, I know...
Stark, if it aint burning the buds, go for it. But when I ran 400's, I wanna say I kept 'em between 10 and 12". You have to think about the light cone and coverage area as well, and balance the height above the tops with adequate coverage. Unless you just have enough lights. I've had plants grow into​ the hoods,mere inches away from 1K bulbs with no apparent ill effects. (Man I FREAKED when I saw that.)Wow, thank you everyone.
Ok, so... no it's not too hot. I learned the 'hand test' a while ago, and it's fine - corroborated, like I say, by a thermometer that is slightly more under the light than the plant is.
It's not wet - or rather it is, because I'd just watered her. I think if anything, she was too dry. Bit embarrassed about that one, but I've only been watering small amounts, which tonight's research suggests is a bad idea.
Riknstein..18 inches? Really? I'm an utter newb (but a sound engineer, so I know how the inverse square law works), but surely I'd lose too much light that way? No? Will you be mortally offended if I just go with 6 or so? Can I ask if anyone else has a similar problem with a 400W HPS at 5 or 6 inches (12-15cm)?
Thanks again for all the replies, guys, appreciate it.
Much better!So...after following the sage advice of all the good folks who contributed here, and a little correct watering, I thought I should show you the result after...what...36 hours of moving the light up (18 inches or so - Riknstein's the man!). Pay attention to Those Who Know, people, and this is what they'll do for you. Huge thank you, guys. kiss-ass
Good morning dude!Much better!
see...less is more
and you didn't believe him/us at first... til we all said the same thing
you made the right call
.... but YOU made the right call. Looks pretty good now, huh? And shows you how quickly plants recover.. Have a good one man.