phillipchristian
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What kind of looser comes in after a week and tries to get in the middle of an argument between two ther members that was already squashed?
Anyone?
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0calli
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You make yourself look no better responding like that and calling names
so everybody just chill smoke a bowl its been quashed let build again shall we
so everybody just chill smoke a bowl its been quashed let build again shall we
phillipchristian
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I am all for it. Go look at my past post to Mad Cow. We squashed it. But who is this guy to come in a week later and stalk talking trash that he's gonna get me kicked off this site. Sorry if my language offended anyone but I just can't stand people like him. He had nothing to do with what was going on and decided to butt in after the people who were involved had already dropped it. That's just trying to start shit.
0calli
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i do think we can all agree move forward
i hate seeing these fights on riu yes ive had my own but its just not worth it when i know both of you are intelligent individuals with lots to offer lets get that shit on the boards instead of what is no good to new growers
peace guys
i hate seeing these fights on riu yes ive had my own but its just not worth it when i know both of you are intelligent individuals with lots to offer lets get that shit on the boards instead of what is no good to new growers
peace guys
alphawolf.hack
New Member
can we get back to electricity?
anyways i have an odd question has anyone ever seen an electrical arc between 2 magnets?(is that possible?)
anyways i have an odd question has anyone ever seen an electrical arc between 2 magnets?(is that possible?)
phillipchristian
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Fair enough 0calli. Thanks for being a peacekeeper. Forums couldn't survive without em.
oakley1984
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phillipchristian
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no one cares anymore. nor de we have any idea what your rambling about.
if you can wire an outlet,adding a breaker or 2 should not be to hard.
look at your panel box,are there any knockouts to add more breakers? (a picture would help). if not they make a breaker that gives you 2 15 or 20 amp breakers in the same space as a normal single breaker. something like this
http://www.lowes.com/pd_94694-82364-BR2020_0__?productId=1114211&Ntt=circuit+breakers&pl=1¤tURL=/pl__0__s?Ntt=circuit+breakers&facetInfo=
I would think 2 15-20 amp circuits would be the cheapest way to go & can't imagine a need for much more since we are talking about a shed & not garage, you can run pvc & fill it w/ THHN type wire or just use a direct burial romex like this.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70034-295-13056723_4294760936__?productId=3129309&Ntt=romex&pl=1¤tURL=/pl_300_4294760936__s?Ntt=romex&facetInfo=30.0
personnally, I would probably go w/ 10/3 romex from your panel to a splicebox in the shed but you could add a subpanel in the shed to allow for future expansion. post back w/ more details & 1 of us can help based on which way you want to go.
phillipchristian
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May want to go a little higher though on those breakers. Like Roid said you don't know if you are gonna need a dehumdifier or a/c later on out there. Will only cost you a few extra dollars to use a larger breaker (say two 30amps) . Plus it's cheaper to oversize it now then have to come back later and rip it out.
808dank
Active Member
So I looked at my panel and it's got room for 24 "poles", all of which are filled. I haven't taken the cover off to see if there are any extra slots, but I would doubt it as it says right on there 24 pole maximum, and there are 24 filled with no space for any knockouts. I looked at the link for the breaker that you sent. In the box I have three 15amp breakers, each of which is a double switch. Then there are three 20amp breakers, each double switched. Then six 50amp (30/20) 240v breakers. Is there something that can take power from one of those double 15amp breakers (or 20) and turn it into four breakers? It looked to me like that link you sent wouldn't work unless it was a single switch, or it had an empty space.
808dank
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personnally, I would probably go w/ 10/3 romex from your panel to a splicebox in the shed but you could add a subpanel in the shed to allow for future expansion. post back w/ more details & 1 of us can help based on which way you want to go.[/QUOTE]
If I were to go this route do I still need to add another breaker on the existing board? Or does this involve running romex from the box into the shed, and then into a splicebox in the shed that contains the breakers? If that is possible it sounds like that would be the easiest way. I could run the wire from the existing board and put a box in the shed with 2 20amp breakers...is that how it would work? Thanks for the help
If I were to go this route do I still need to add another breaker on the existing board? Or does this involve running romex from the box into the shed, and then into a splicebox in the shed that contains the breakers? If that is possible it sounds like that would be the easiest way. I could run the wire from the existing board and put a box in the shed with 2 20amp breakers...is that how it would work? Thanks for the help
phillipchristian
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Any way that you do it you are going to have to get new breakers on that board. You need to create space on the board so that you can place at least 1 240v breaker on the panel to supply power to a sub panel in the shed. Obviously all the breakers that are on the board are being used to power things that are in your house so you can't eliminate them. What you can do is combine them though. You need to find the smallest breakers that are on the board. Find 2 15amp double pole breakers that are side by side. Test them to see what they are controlling in the house. Figure out how many amps are loaded on each of those circuits. Add 25% to that number. Cut the main power to your breaker panel. Remove the cover and then remove those 2 breakers. Twist their wires together or create a pigtail and put them in to a breaker that is rated for that load. Put that breaker back on your board. Now you have 1 space available. Put a 50amp 240v breaker in that spcae. Run your romex or thhn to the subpanel or splice box in your shed. Split to the load between two 30amp breakers. You're good to go.
808dank
Active Member
So like I said I have three 15amp double pole breakers, two of which are side by side. Two of those combined is 60amps total. If I were to take both of them out and connect the wires together into one 20amp double pole breaker that gives me 40amps, which should hopefully be enough to handle whatever is on there (general household stuff in the bedrooms, tv's, computers, etc..) no way it's over 80% of 40 amps. Then I could put a second 20 amp double pole breaker in the other slot. When I connect the second breaker (whether it be a 20amp double pole breaker or a 240v breaker) what do I wire that too? If I've already taken the existing two wires from both breakers and twisted them together into one breaker do I just pigtail off of that or something? Hopefully it would be obvious once I open up the circuit board.
phillipchristian
New Member
See if you can get a 30 amp tandem breaker for your house stuff just to be safe. Then when you put the new tandem breaker in you can just wire it directly to 2 outlets in the shed. If you put a 240v breaker in then you would wire that to a subpanel in the shed and then from the breakers on the sub panel to outlets in the shed. If it's only 20 feet then just wire it directly to 2 outlets.
wysong
Active Member
All the 3 phase power requirement is for woodworking equipment in the basement
VFD's are bad on RF inteference to begin with , that I've witnessed.
They will be in the basement ,used very little.
But I'll be having to run the RFC almost all the time as most oft
he equipment is 600,480,220 three phase.
I've been reading up on the RF problems with the earlier Digital Ballast designs.
I live in one of those 5 unit town houses, my next door neighbour TV/cable
could only be 6 ft away from where I want/have to mount the Digital ballast.
will the ballast be affected by the VFD / RFC
Looking to see if anyone had any experience in this area.
cuzogucci19
Member
I have Two 600w hps on one breaker and a couple of ceiling fans. Breaker worked for month straight now trips all the time. How could I make this work. I have no other sockets to use as they are being used by other appliances. Maybe going from 15amp to 20amp? Or maybe Rewiring to get a little bit more power to room? Any help would be great! Thanks
nuglets
New Member
Make sure the existing wiring in the wall from the breaker to the outlet is at least 14 gauge. If it is all you will to do is change the breaker for a 20 amp one. If not then use the wire in the wall to pull 12 gauge wire through and hook up a 30 amp breaker to give you some extra juice.
budleydoright
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Rather than mess with your wiring like that. Why don't you see if you can get half space breakers, which is 2-15 amp breakers that only take up one space. I have a 2 space breaker that has 2 220v for a total of 4 breakers. I broke the bond between the 2 30 amps breakers and run those to my 110v ballasts, the 220v 20A is used for my 18k windowshaker AC. I'm pretty confident that most brands make them.
While combining circuits isn't absolutely going to cause you problems, it is absolutely bypassing part a what should be a well engineered system designed to be pretty much idiot proof.
A breaker panel can be like a checking account, it can be real easy to write more checks than you have $ to cover. Be carefull.