ttystikk
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Not the government, just the parties.
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Not the government, just the parties.
tangerinegreen555
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They're a little slow down there, in case you haven't noticed...
Those were blue states before the 1965 civil rights act...
Fucking rebels...
ttystikk
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They're a little slow down there, in case you haven't noticed...
Those were blue states before the 1965 civil rights act...
Fucking rebels...
They just want to be left alone with their racism and American apartheid. I've lived down there, it's creepy as Fuck.
tangerinegreen555
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My dad bought a condo when he retired in Myrtle Beach in 1980. Stayed there in the winters. One day a couple guys went to his place to 'welcome' another Republican to the area. He literally threw them the fuck out. You don't mess with a 44 yr. USW worker like that...Lol.
Harrekin
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90%?
I'll be sure to cry a tear for your economy when your rich flee to here.
You think they register companies in the Camen Islands to save chump change?
You're gonna try steal billions MORE than that, you think they'd just accept that so they can call themselves Murican?
Padawanbater2
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So why didn't the rich flee in the 50s?
Harrekin
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Because the marginal rate and the effective rate are two different things?
You idiots are calling for a 90% effective rate, not a marginal one.
Grandpapy
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You promise to keep them there?
It's the GOP and its government that does this..we were thisclose to a new governor and mmj but then came Sheldon Addelson's money.
Distraction
Padawanbater2
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I'm calling for the same tax codes we had in the 1950s when prosperity was high for everyone, under that Socialist Eisenhower
Fogdog
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You make absolutely no sense in this posting. The Irish have much higher personal tax rates compared to the US. Its rated as the 10th highest in the world. Have the wealthy in Ireland fled to avoid taxes in your land? No.
Ireland kind of sort of benefits from lower corporate tax rates but these lower rates didn't insulate it from the shock felt in the early part of this decade. Also, Ireland's unemployment rate is 9% compared to the US's rate of 5%. So, yeah, headquarters locate there but its not all skittles and beer when corporate tax rates are low with correspondingly high personal rates.
You have a much better social safety net and a more even distribution of wealth in Ireland compared to the US. Minimum wages are also higher in Ireland. This is all that's being asked for by more enlightened people here. The discussion revolves around how to make a sustainable, robust and healthy society, which is something the US does not have. The discussion regarding a livable minimum wage is one avenue toward this.
What you seem to want is the US's fucked up system. Be careful of what you wish for.
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ttystikk
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I SECOND EVERY WORD OF THIS!
In addition, I'd feel an awful lot safer with Mr Eisenhower's judgment in dealing with the Chinese today than with any contemporary leader I can think of!
Fogdog
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Could not what you call "the government" be more broadly termed as the political and economic system? In the south, practically all of the main institutions of society such as churches, factories, banks, schools and places of commerce like grocery stores have colluded against progressive policies that would make life better for those living in the lower third of this economy. The mainly white blue collar workers of the south are the least likely to support their own causes in favor of the wealthy elites. The so-called right to work laws of the south are a great example of this. Its as if the European-Americans of the south never gave up the plantation system.
Red1966
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Tax rate on highest income earners is 39%. A 250M hedge fund isn't income. It's just the value of the hedge fund. I don't even support Trump for president, let alone God. Assuming I do because that is your way of trying to define me as you want me to be instead of who I really am is the way you people try to silence any opposing view.
So let's see you name this hedge fund and this manager of your claim.
tangerinegreen555
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Directly from your god Trump's speech 6 wks. ago...Ask him...or maybe he was lying again? Sounded credible, he said he'd change that shit... Oops, THAT was the lie maybe?
Padawanbater2
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Yeah, that would be income tax, the thing is, when you earn into the tens of millions, your money isn't coming from income, it's coming from investments and property and capital gains which isn't taxed at the 39% rate. That's why Mitt Romney paid 14% and why Buffet pays less in taxes than his secretary.
ttystikk
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And it's what has to change for this country to work for the majority of its people.
The republican party has done an excellent job of showing us all just how stupid people can be politically if there's the will and the funds to systematically deceive them.
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Red1966
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You keep trying to make this about Trump. Are you arguing with him or me? So far, you haven't been able to dispute me at all. Pretending I worship a man I wouldn't even vote for is just asinine.
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