newgrower89
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I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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ttystikk
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It was a very democratic shipwreck; rich people died, too.
doublejj
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just another vote for trump......thanks for helping
NLXSK1
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This isnt home ec dear...
the word is sow, not sew.
And what chance would that be anyway? To vote for Bernie? The AZ primary hasnt even happened yet. I am registered independent and dont even know if I can vote in a primary.
I didnt sow anything.
this isn't pigs my dear; it's sew not sow.
bearkat42
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Bernie Sanders Says He Will Ask Obama to Withdraw SCOTUS Nomination if He Wins
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said if elected president in November he would ask President Obama to withdraw his Supreme Court justice nomination of Judge Merrick Garland.
“I think I’m 100 percent prepared to support Judge Garland. I think he’s clearly very knowledgeable and can serve ably on the Supreme Court,” the Vermont senator told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow Thursday night. “But between you and me, I think there are some more progressive judges out there.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-obama-withdraw-scotus-nomination-elected-president/story?id=37748303
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said if elected president in November he would ask President Obama to withdraw his Supreme Court justice nomination of Judge Merrick Garland.
“I think I’m 100 percent prepared to support Judge Garland. I think he’s clearly very knowledgeable and can serve ably on the Supreme Court,” the Vermont senator told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow Thursday night. “But between you and me, I think there are some more progressive judges out there.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-obama-withdraw-scotus-nomination-elected-president/story?id=37748303
londonfog
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not to want to really get involved, but it is sowthis isn't pigs my dear; it's sew not sow.
SOW - plant (seed) by scattering it on or in the earth
londonfog
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For your own sanity please realize that Bernie is not going to get the nod. The sooner you accept the easier it will be for you in the long run.
For the record no one has made a comeback, being as far as Bernie is in delegates. He is getting pounded.
ttystikk
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This is undeniably true.
It's not a good thing, so it's worth discussing what happens next.
newgrower89
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There's only one candidate left out of either party that will do anything remotely different from what we currently have. Disagree with his personal values and some of his policies? Fine. But seriously bro. I challenge you to look at trumps policies on trade. Because if you want Bernie's trade policy on tariffs, which will do more for the economy than any stimulus package, you better vote for trump. Let's get our government running on import taxes instead of income taxes.... Maybe open a factory or the 50-100,000 we've lost in the last 10-15 years. I think he's an arrogant stupid billionaire at the end of the day. But something tells he won't give a shit about TYPICAL D.C. BULLSHIT! That's what we need. Or your stuck with a great family friend of the bushes...
Yes her...
UncleBuck
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so you're a racist and you want to put a 35% tax on your walmart shopping trips?
i can't help stupid people, so i just laugh at them now.
Padawanbater2
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More math from Reddit
"I've constructed several hypothetical scenarios of how the future states might play out, based on the 538 data. It helps to show just how far behind Sanders is right now.
Scenario 1 - 538 goals
All of my scenarios will be in a table that looks like this. This is simply the possible future delegate spreads, with a column for Clinton, Sanders, and how much Sanders nets (gains or loses relative to Clinton). This scenario represents if Sanders meets all of 538's original delegate goals exactly. Remember, these are the goals that they decided he could attain if he and Clinton were polling exactly even, nationally. As you can see, if Sanders just meets these goals exactly, he only nets 82 delegates in the remaining states. He's currently at a 325 deficit, so that's nowhere near close enough to make it up. Remember, none of this is even taking into account the super delegates.
Scenario 2 - exceed all goals by 10%
Here is what the future would look like if Sanders exceeds all of his goals by 10%. For example, if 538 said he needed to win by 10% in Arizona, in this table he wins by 20%. As you can see, if he does this, he nets 299 delegates. This is closer to catching up to Clinton, but he would still far short by a little over 20 delegates. That's not enough, since the superdelegates will likely favor the majority winner of the pledged delegates. The Sandernistas can drop right now this fantasy that the superdelegates would change the race from a popularly favored Clinton to a nominated Sanders. No way in hell. If anything, they would stay with Clinton even if Sanders edged her out by a little (by some miracle).
Scenario 3 - win each state by 16%
This shows how the future would look if Sanders wins by a flat 16% in each state--ignoring the 538 demographics. I got this number from recent 538 articles, which said that Sanders needs 58% of the remaining delegates. If he gets 58, Clinton gets 42--hence the 16 point spread. Remember the red cells way back in the "past" spreadsheet? They indicate which states Sanders has already won by at least 16 points. He has only done this in 6 states so far, and now he needs to do it in every remaining state, on average. Sure, the map looks better for him going forward, but not this good.
You'll notice that there's an extra column in this scenario. Those represent the five largest shifts Sanders needs in order to reach a 16% win in the respective states. Thus, it will be hardest to reach this 16% benchmark in New York, Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, and New Jersey.
Scenario 4 - win big in the big states
This is what it would look like if Sanders meets all of the 538 goals exactly, but exceeds his goals by 20% in the five biggest remaining states. Note from the previous table that 4 of these 5 states are also the hardest to reach the 16% win benchmark, and are thus the hardest to gain momentum in. Obtaining something like this result is much easier said than done. Nonetheless, if he could do this (not likely), he would just barely make up his deficit. If he underperformed in even one small state, this would still not be enough.
I note that the five biggest remaining states hold 56% of the remaining delegates (due to population size). So these five states are more important than all of the rest, combined. Thus we have,
Scenario 5 - what about the small states?
This is the last scenario. This is what it would look like if Sanders met exactly his goal for the five biggest states, and exceeded his goals in all of the smaller states by 20% (again, exceeded with respect to the 538 benchmarks). Since these represent only 44% of the remaining delegates, it's easy to understand why this scenario does not net Sanders enough delegates. Even if he has these blowouts where he exceeds the 538 benchmarks by 20% in all of these states, it doesn't mean much unless he can get a big state or two by very large margins as well.
This is all I came up with. I might make some posts like this in the future, since it will be easy to update these tables with future results. But I think it's clear that Sanders is losing and will lose, so it's probably not necessary."
https://np.reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4avw76/the_numbers_are_looking_really_bad_for_sanders/
"I've constructed several hypothetical scenarios of how the future states might play out, based on the 538 data. It helps to show just how far behind Sanders is right now.
Scenario 1 - 538 goals
All of my scenarios will be in a table that looks like this. This is simply the possible future delegate spreads, with a column for Clinton, Sanders, and how much Sanders nets (gains or loses relative to Clinton). This scenario represents if Sanders meets all of 538's original delegate goals exactly. Remember, these are the goals that they decided he could attain if he and Clinton were polling exactly even, nationally. As you can see, if Sanders just meets these goals exactly, he only nets 82 delegates in the remaining states. He's currently at a 325 deficit, so that's nowhere near close enough to make it up. Remember, none of this is even taking into account the super delegates.
Scenario 2 - exceed all goals by 10%
Here is what the future would look like if Sanders exceeds all of his goals by 10%. For example, if 538 said he needed to win by 10% in Arizona, in this table he wins by 20%. As you can see, if he does this, he nets 299 delegates. This is closer to catching up to Clinton, but he would still far short by a little over 20 delegates. That's not enough, since the superdelegates will likely favor the majority winner of the pledged delegates. The Sandernistas can drop right now this fantasy that the superdelegates would change the race from a popularly favored Clinton to a nominated Sanders. No way in hell. If anything, they would stay with Clinton even if Sanders edged her out by a little (by some miracle).
Scenario 3 - win each state by 16%
This shows how the future would look if Sanders wins by a flat 16% in each state--ignoring the 538 demographics. I got this number from recent 538 articles, which said that Sanders needs 58% of the remaining delegates. If he gets 58, Clinton gets 42--hence the 16 point spread. Remember the red cells way back in the "past" spreadsheet? They indicate which states Sanders has already won by at least 16 points. He has only done this in 6 states so far, and now he needs to do it in every remaining state, on average. Sure, the map looks better for him going forward, but not this good.
You'll notice that there's an extra column in this scenario. Those represent the five largest shifts Sanders needs in order to reach a 16% win in the respective states. Thus, it will be hardest to reach this 16% benchmark in New York, Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, and New Jersey.
Scenario 4 - win big in the big states
This is what it would look like if Sanders meets all of the 538 goals exactly, but exceeds his goals by 20% in the five biggest remaining states. Note from the previous table that 4 of these 5 states are also the hardest to reach the 16% win benchmark, and are thus the hardest to gain momentum in. Obtaining something like this result is much easier said than done. Nonetheless, if he could do this (not likely), he would just barely make up his deficit. If he underperformed in even one small state, this would still not be enough.
I note that the five biggest remaining states hold 56% of the remaining delegates (due to population size). So these five states are more important than all of the rest, combined. Thus we have,
Scenario 5 - what about the small states?
This is the last scenario. This is what it would look like if Sanders met exactly his goal for the five biggest states, and exceeded his goals in all of the smaller states by 20% (again, exceeded with respect to the 538 benchmarks). Since these represent only 44% of the remaining delegates, it's easy to understand why this scenario does not net Sanders enough delegates. Even if he has these blowouts where he exceeds the 538 benchmarks by 20% in all of these states, it doesn't mean much unless he can get a big state or two by very large margins as well.
This is all I came up with. I might make some posts like this in the future, since it will be easy to update these tables with future results. But I think it's clear that Sanders is losing and will lose, so it's probably not necessary."
https://np.reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4avw76/the_numbers_are_looking_really_bad_for_sanders/
Padawanbater2
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Trump has been donating to political causes his entire adult life, including financing both republican and democratic campaigns..
He's very much intertwined in the politics of Washington, make no mistake about it
ttystikk
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So Sanders will lose the nomination. He knew this going in, so he must have an endgame. What is it? Does anyone seriously think he'll accept the vice presidency? What other options might be open to him?
Failing winning the nomination, what can those of us who believed in Bernie and his platform do now to promote our cause?
Failing winning the nomination, what can those of us who believed in Bernie and his platform do now to promote our cause?
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newgrower89
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I agree completely. Some people think since he's donated a lot to the Clinton's, that he just did this to make her a sure thing. Im 99% convinced that's not true, but if it comes out in 5 years I don't be dumbfounde . He's also very connected to the elite Jews of Manhattan, as any real estate mogul would have to be in NYC. There's a video of him speaking at a Jewish convention telling them " you don't like me because you can't buy me". Ever since then I've had the up most respect for him!
UncleBuck
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so china sends goods to walmart, walmart has to pay a huge import tariff on those goods, and then they just sell them to walmart shoppers like you at the same price as before?
OK, that'll work.
newgrower89
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How about we raise fucking hell about e-voting machines! I would bet my life right now he's been fucked our of 100,000s if not millions of votes already! He's said it himself...
UncleBuck
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yep, us jews not only control real estate, but the media, television, banking, and the hot dog industry.
if you need further assistance on anti-semitic conspiracy theories, just ask me. i'm whistleblowing all this week and next.
UncleBuck
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were you aware that one exclamation point is actually sufficient?