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Wait? I thought the GOP had the majority?

House GOP takes revenge on Democrats after McCarthy ousting
Allies of toppled former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) are fuming at Democrats for failing to back him amid his historic ejection — leaving Democrats arguing the GOP has no one to blame but themselves.

Republican ire hasn’t just been centered on the eight members of their own conference who ignited and backed the vote to oust McCarthy, but the Democrats who voted in unison to remove him.

And Speaker Pro Temp Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) exacted some swift revenge — booting both Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and former House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) from their hideaway offices in the Capitol.

The move came after McCarthy called out Pelosi, who is in California for the funeral of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, claiming she failed to keep a promise made during his 15-vote battle for the Speakership to back him if his members ever sought to vote him out.

Staff began cleaning out the office late Tuesday night.

“It’s fairly petty stuff. And the odd thing to me is we’re getting blowback from moderate Republicans who really could have fixed this internally months ago and should have fixed it months ago, but they’re mad, they’re mad at the Democrats now for not bailing out McCarthy. I just find it, frankly, kind of immature,” said Rep. Glenn Ivey (D-Md.).

“This is their caucus, their internal voting, their internal meetings. It’s really incumbent on them to take care of their own problem and take care of their own internal civil war.”

Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.) told reporters Wednesday that Pelosi’s office space would be given to McCarthy.

But the offices are just the physical targets of a GOP seething that Democrats enabled a coup from the eight Republicans.

It’s an assertion Democrats wholly reject, noting that McCarthy has repeatedly capitulated to the MAGA-wing of his party, including by launching an impeachment inquiry into President Biden — and by frequently failing to negotiate with Democrats, even as his job hung in the balance.

Graves vented to reporters Wednesday, saying his colleague Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who spearheaded the movement, was “played” by Democrats.

“Let me say it again, the House of Representatives is frozen. And it’s frozen because Matt Gaetz was played like a drum by AOC, by Nancy Pelosi, and others … with just eight Republicans getting together with 208 Democrats. Every single Democrat in this chamber threw out the Speaker of the House with only eight so-called Republicans,” he said.

But it was clear his frustration wasn’t just centered on the other side of the aisle, at one point calling Gaetz an “arsonist” and again dragging him for fundraising off the whole episode.

“If we’re going to continue to have clowns like Matt Gaetz as part of the Republican conference as part of this Congress, then you’re going to have to have rules in place that prevent him from doing his charade. Every single week, every single month, where he goes out and he does his thing where he creates some manufactured crisis,” that he then uses to fundraise, Graves said.

“I think this should be illegal. I think people should be in jail for this crap,” Graves said.

“He’s the arsonist who lit the house on fire.”

McCarthy aired frustration with those members, as well as Pelosi, during a surprisingly upbeat press conference Tuesday night after the vote.

“They don’t get to say they’re conservative because they’re angry and they’re chaotic,” he said.

McCarthy said he spoke to Pelosi as he was struggling to secure the Speakership, in round after round of voting, saying she told him to accept the deal from conservative conference members that just one member could call a vote to oust him.

“She said, ‘Just give it to ‘em. I’ll always back you up,’” he said. “I think today was a political decision by the Democrats.”

Pelosi, in a statement, noted she was in California during the sudden call of the vote, and was unable to retrieve her belongings as they were removed from her office.

“This eviction is a sharp departure from tradition. As Speaker, I gave former Speaker Hastert a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished,” she said.

“Office space doesn’t matter to me, but it seems to be important to them. Now that the new Republican Leadership has settled this important matter, let’s hope they get to work on what’s truly important for the American people.”

McHenry did not respond to a request for comment about the rationale for his decision.

Some Republicans felt that Democrats should have sided with McCarthy.

“You have [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) acting like he’s trying to work in a bipartisan manner. He says we’re going to continue putting people over politics. That is the biggest load of garbage I’ve ever heard. They literally just aligned themselves with Matt Gaetz and the MAGA extremists to burn down the House. And they act as though you know, ‘We stand up for democracy; we stand up for our institutions.’ This was an opportunity to actually show leadership, real leadership, not nonsensical BS,” Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) said in response to a question from The Hill.

“Frankly, it’s not serious to hear their outrage about the need for bipartisanship. They’re not serious about it. Because if you were, this was a moment to actually stand up for the institution and say, ‘Yeah, we’re not playing part to this.’ Yes, it’s Republicans’ responsibility. We’re in the majority. But they aligned themselves and facilitated this. They can’t act like they have clean hands in this.”

But Democrats were quick to point out that McCarthy made a number of strategic errors: caving to insistence from some in the conference that allowed for just one member to call for a motion to vacate, repeatedly giving in to right-wing demands, and refusing to negotiate with Democrats but then blaming them at various turns, including ahead of the vote to eject him.

McCarthy also could have delayed the vote to oust him for 48 hours to give himself more time to coordinate with colleagues – an option he did not avail himself of.

“I get that they’re upset about what happened and you’re sort of flailing around to find some sort of messaging to explain it. But this is the chickens coming home to roost on the way they’ve run their caucus and allowed it to be run since the 15 votes in January. And they really have only themselves to blame for where they are right now,” Ivey said.

Ivey said McCarthy’s firing wasn’t entirely surprising, as his agreeing to let just one member bring a vote to remove him from office left him incredibly vulnerable.

“He changed that rule. And I think all of us knew in January that that would end up being a problem for him, just because it took him 15 votes to get it. And so you knew there was a solid core of people who were going to be ready to hit the eject button at any time. And, you know, in some ways it’s surprising it took this long for it to happen.”

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) also pushed back when asked about the role Democrats played in McCarthy’s removal.

“You’re talking about the chaos in the Republican Party. Look, right-wing Republicans have to solve the problems that right-wing Republicans create. And so the civil war within the Republican Party has nothing to do with us,” he said, noting Democrats have consistently pushed Jeffries to lead the House.

“I voted 15 times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker, and I will vote 15,000 more times for Hakeem Jeffries for speaker.”
It is well within the power of the Republican caucus to save the House by voting for Jeffries. We'd have a speaker right away if Republicans showed some civic responsibility through bipartisanship and loyalty to the Constitution. I imagine he could retain speakership, staff committees, and pass legislation in the same spirit of magnanimity.

It's almost like we don't even need political parties. If the Democrats would just vote for everything Republicans want, we wouldn't have a problem and we could truly get on with solving this country's problems.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Haha. Heh. Okay, I'm done.
 

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GOP aims fire at Gaetz after McCarthy ouster
House Republicans are aiming their fire at Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) after the congressman staged a successful effort to oust Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as Speaker, sharply criticizing the Florida Republican for teaming up with Democrats to boot the GOP leader and hurling personal insults his way.

Taking matters a step further, at least two GOP lawmakers have said Gaetz should be booted from the House Republican Conference, an unlikely outcome that, nonetheless, underscores the raw frustration — and anger — with Gaetz among members of his party.

The amped-up rhetoric comes as the House GOP conference is being forced back into square one — electing a new Speaker — as the government shutdown clock ticks down to the fast-approaching Nov. 17 funding deadline.

The converging dynamics have House Republicans starting to lash out — with Gaetz taking a large chunk of the heat.

“Matt Gaetz just got schooled by AOC and others; he was totally manipulated into doing this,” Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.), a close McCarthy ally, told reporters Wednesday. “There were eight so-called Republicans that got together with 208 Democrats to oust the Republican Speaker.”

“I can’t believe he’s that stupid to be used, to be manipulated by AOC and others to create this outcome,” he added.

Rep. Anthony D’Esposito (R-N.Y.) said Gaetz’s move to eject McCarthy from the Speakership amounted to “one of the greatest acts of heresy.”

“He’s literally taken one of our oldest institutions and put it into a downward spiral, all over selfish needs, all over Twitter feeds and raising money,” D’Esposito said during an interview on CNN.

McCarthy, during remarks following Tuesday’s vote, said Gaetz’s effort was “personal” and “all about getting attention” from the press.

In a historic vote Tuesday, the House voted to oust McCarthy from the Speakership, putting an end to his nearly nine-month tenure on the job that had been defined by his efforts to manage the party’s right-flank in the face of growing threats to his gavel.

Eight Republicans, led by Gaetz, voted with all Democrats in the chamber to boot McCarthy, bringing the final tally to 216-210. It was the first time since 1910 that the House voted on a “motion to vacate the chair” and the first time such a motion has succeeded.

McCarthy then announced he would not run for Speaker again, setting off a scramble in the GOP conference over who will succeed the California Republican in the top spot. In the meantime, Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) was named Speaker pro tempore and will preside over the House, but the chamber is unable to conduct legislative business until a new Speaker is chosen.

Immediately after the vote Tuesday, Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told reporters that Gaetz should be removed from the House GOP conference, adding “he’s not a Republican.”

Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) — who said Tuesday that he would have hit Gaetz “square between the eyes” with the Speaker’s gavel — echoed Bacon’s sentiment Wednesday, saying he believes the Florida Republican should be kicked out of the conference.

Punchbowl News reported Wednesday night that Lawler said he is considering offering a motion to expel Gaetz from the group.

To be sure, booting Gaetz from the House GOP conference would be a heavy lift, requiring agreement from two-thirds of members. Asked about expelling Gaetz from the conference, Rep. Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.) questioned if his Florida colleague broke any rules.

“We don’t kick people out ‘cause we don’t like ‘em,” Armstrong said. “God, we’d be doing that every morning in conference.”

Graves also brushed aside questions about potentially ousting Gaetz from the conference, saying it would have to be a decision for the group to make.

Gaetz, for his part, is disregarding the criticism being directed toward him. Asked about Lawler’s “square between the eyes” comment and if he expects to be expelled by the conference, Gaetz returned fire.

“I think that that was a very frustrated person who’s having to come to grips with the stages of grief,” Gaetz told Bloomberg TV of Lawler.

“I’m not much for political violence; I don’t want to hit anybody,” he later added. “If Mike Lawler comes at me with a gavel, I’m not entirely sure that would concern me, but that’s not the direction I think we ought to go. I think we ought to maybe craft a budget before an attack strategy.”

Gaetz has also drawn substantial criticism from Republicans for fundraising off of his effort to oust McCarthy. Graves presented a screenshot of a fundraising blast that he says Gaetz — whom he called a clown — sent out during debate on his motion to vacate.

He accused the Florida Republican of capitalizing on a “manufactured crisis.”

“If we’re gonna continue to have clowns like Matt Gaetz as part of the Republican conference, as part of this Congress, then you’re gonna have to have rules in place that prevent him from doing his charade every single week, every single month, where he goes out and he does his thing where he creates some manufactured crisis … does his manufactured crisis using official government resources, official government actions, manufactures a crisis and then goes and sends out fundraising emails off of the crisis manufacturer,” Graves said.

“I think this should be illegal. I think people should be in jail for this crap.”

“I mean, we’re getting email fundraisers from him as he’s doing it. Join in quickly,” McCarthy said Tuesday, referring to Gaetz’s motion to vacate-related fundraising efforts. “That’s not governing; that’s not becoming of a member of Congress.”

And Gaetz is facing claims of hypocrisy.

The Florida lawmaker for weeks had been heightening his threat to force a vote on confiscating McCarthy’s gavel, warning the then-Speaker that he would face a motion to vacate if he relied on Democrats to pass a continuing resolution — which the California Republican did last weekend to avert a shutdown. Gaetz, instead, wanted the chamber to pass all 12 appropriations bills.

D’Esposito said Gaetz criticized McCarthy for working with Democrats, but “yesterday he worked with Democrats, some of the most progressive and far-leaning left in the conference, in order to take Kevin McCarthy out. He is by every stretch of the definition a complete hypocrite.”

McCarthy’s ouster came three days after he put the continuing resolution on the floor.

The successful motion to vacate has put the House at a standstill, with legislative business — including the appropriations process — unable to proceed until a new Speaker is chosen, a reality that is causing concern with lawmakers as they race the clock to fund the government ahead of next month’s shutdown deadline.

“There’re 12 appropriations bills, those bills are all moving. Now, the ones that aren’t moving, it’s for one reason: It’s because Matt Gaetz and some of the cronies have single-handedly prevented or obstructed those from moving forward,” Graves said Wednesday.

The Louisiana Republican re-upped a familiar metaphor he has used to describe the GOP rabble-rousers.

“Once again, the arsonists who lit their house on fire, who whined about their House being on fire, who put out the fire, wants credit for it, and sets up a GoFundMe site to get paid for it,” he said. “Complete hypocrisy.”
 

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Former Santos treasurer expected to plead guilty
Nancy Marks, Rep. George Santos’s (R-N.Y.) former campaign treasurer, is expected to plead guilty to at least one felony in federal court, according to new court filings.

The documents do not specify what charges she will plead guilty to but indicate they are related to Santos’s criminal case.

Marks is scheduled to appear before U.S. District Judge Joanna Seybert at 3 p.m. Thursday at the federal courthouse in Central Islip, N.Y., according to a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York.

The charges would add a new dynamic to Santos’s criminal case, where he is charged with 13 counts over accusations that he misled donors and misrepresented his finances to the public and government agencies. He has pleaded not guilty.

Marks resigned from Santos’s campaign in January, weeks after reports surfaced revealing that Santos had lied about his resume and background.
The Hill has reached out to Santos’s congressional office for comment.

Since his indictment — and his not guilty plea — Santos has continued serving in the House, brushing off bipartisan calls for him to step aside.
In May, the House voted to refer a resolution to expel Santos to the House Ethics Committee, a move that was largely seen as redundant because the panel had been investigating the congressman for months. But it nonetheless shielded lawmakers from having to weigh in directly on whether or not Santos should remain in Congress.

The House Ethics Committee revealed in June that it had expanded its probe into Santos, adding allegations that the New York Republican fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits to its investigation.

The panel had already been looking into whether Santos “engaged in unlawful activity with respect to his 2022 congressional campaign; failed to properly disclose required information on statements filed with the House; violated federal conflict of interest laws in connection with his role in a firm providing fiduciary services; and/or engaged in sexual misconduct towards an individual seeking employment in his congressional office.”
Santos is running for reelection in New York’s third congressional district.

Prosecutors also charged Santos’s former fundraiser, Samuel Miele, in August with five counts over allegations that he impersonated former Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) chief of staff while soliciting donations for Santos’s campaign.
Miele pleaded not guilty but prosecutors previously indicated that negotiations to avoid a trial, which could include a plea deal, were “active and ongoing.”

Miele had a court appearance scheduled for Friday, but it was postponed to next week just ahead of Marks’s expected guilty plea.
 

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Why John Kelly MUST speak out against Donald Trump | The Warning with Steve Schmidt

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Steve Schmidt reacts to John Kelly speaking out against Donald Trump. Steve says he must continue to do so in order to protect his reputation and his country.
 

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I think when Trump goes down in court and is muzzled, if he is disqualified in December, he will still control the GOP though, or enough of them. Only prison and a muzzle for Trump can change that, even then 30% of the republican base will still be at his command. Trump destroyed the republican party more than American democracy, for every radical action they take there will be a reaction.


Fed-Up Liz Cheney delivers BRUTAL TAKEDOWN of her OWN party

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Liz Cheney did not mince words when talking about her former Republican colleagues. Tennessee Brando reports.
 

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Forget Biden’s age, what’s going on inside the extremist GOP?

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As Donald Trump goes to court (again) and Kevin McCarthy gets ousted, Mehdi looks at how the new ex-House speaker’s career – and the members floating Trump as his replacement – capture everything that’s wrong with a Republican Party in chaos.
 

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Greene says GOP could have ‘a Trump rally everyday’ at Capitol if he’s Speaker
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) compared a theoretical House chamber under former President Trump as its Speaker to a Trump campaign rally, drawing immediate pushback from Democrats who suggested there had already been a Trump rally at the Capitol – on January 6, 2021.

“If Trump becomes Speaker of the House, the House chamber will be like a Trump rally everyday!!” Greene wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“It would be the House of MAGA!!!” she continued.

Greene’s reference to a rally at the Capitol, however, evoked memories of January 6 from many members who mocked the comment by quote-tweeting it.

“No thanks, we’re good. We’ve seen a Trump rally at the Capitol already,” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer wrote, reposting Greene’s comment.

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) responded to Greene’s post with Taylor Swift lyrics, “I think I’ve seen this film before//And I didn’t like the ending.”

“We already saw a “#Trump rally” in Congress back on #January6th,” Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) wrote on X.

Greene has declared her support for President Trump to be the next Speaker of the House, after eight Republicans voted with all Democrats to oust former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from the position on Tuesday afternoon.

Reps. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House Majority Leader, and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus, have both declared their intention to run for Speaker. Trump has not entered the race, but Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) announced he would nominate him.

“We only have one choice for Speaker: President Donald J. Trump,” Greene previously wrote in a post on X. “His policies stopped the globalists and communists more than anyone else. He is the leader of the Republican Party and the only person we can trust to Save America.”
 

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Trump endorses Jim Jordan for Speaker
Former President Trump threw his support behind Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) to be the next House Speaker late Thursday night, giving the conservative firebrand a boost in his effort to win the gavel.

“He is a STRONG on Crime, Borders, our Military/Vets, & 2nd Amendment. Jim, his wife, Polly, & family are outstanding – He will be a GREAT Speaker of the House, & has my Complete & Total Endorsement!” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform.

The former president backed Jordan over Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.), who on Wednesday announced his own bid to replace ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

“Congressman Jim Jordan has been a STAR long before making his very successful journey to Washington, D.C., representing Ohio’s 4th Congressional District. Respected by all, he is now Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,” Trump wrote.

Jordan was the first to announce his bid for Speaker this week and in his perch leading the Judiciary panel he is one of the leaders of House Republicans’ impeachment effort targeting President Biden.

The conservative lawmaker has been a top defender of Trump on Capitol Hill, including during the two impeachment probes that targeted the former president. Jordan also declared earlier this year that he “100%” backed Trump’s 2024 presidential bid despite the former president’s ongoing legal issues.

Trump had initially declined to back any particular candidate for Speaker following McCarthy’s removal, telling reporters on Wednesday that “we have some great people in the Republican Party that could do a great job as Speaker.”

Jordan and Scalise, who are both Trump allies, have been locked in a tight race to succeed McCarthy following his removal Tuesday. Eight Republicans had joined Democrats to oust the California Republican, marking the first time a Speaker has been removed through a no-confidence vote.

Some House Republicans floated the former president himself as a possible Speaker nominee, with the conference scrambling to coalesce around a new leader following McCarthy’s exit from a position he had held since January.

Trump appeared to dismiss those calls, saying Wednesday he was “totally” focused on his White House bid. On Thursday, he said he would do so on a temporary basis only “if necessary,” adding to Fox News Digital, “I have been asked to speak as a unifier because I have so many friends in Congress.”

Rep. Troy Nehls (Texas), one of the Republicans who had suggested Trump run for Speaker, posted Thursday evening on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, saying Trump had told him he would back Jordan.

“He is endorsing Jim Jordan, and I believe Congress should listen to the leader of our party,” Nehls wrote.
 

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Trump endorses Jim Jordan for Speaker
Former President Trump threw his support behind Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) to be the next House Speaker late Thursday night, giving the conservative firebrand a boost in his effort to win the gavel.

“He is a STRONG on Crime, Borders, our Military/Vets, & 2nd Amendment. Jim, his wife, Polly, & family are outstanding – He will be a GREAT Speaker of the House, & has my Complete & Total Endorsement!” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform.

The former president backed Jordan over Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.), who on Wednesday announced his own bid to replace ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

“Congressman Jim Jordan has been a STAR long before making his very successful journey to Washington, D.C., representing Ohio’s 4th Congressional District. Respected by all, he is now Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,” Trump wrote.

Jordan was the first to announce his bid for Speaker this week and in his perch leading the Judiciary panel he is one of the leaders of House Republicans’ impeachment effort targeting President Biden.

The conservative lawmaker has been a top defender of Trump on Capitol Hill, including during the two impeachment probes that targeted the former president. Jordan also declared earlier this year that he “100%” backed Trump’s 2024 presidential bid despite the former president’s ongoing legal issues.

Trump had initially declined to back any particular candidate for Speaker following McCarthy’s removal, telling reporters on Wednesday that “we have some great people in the Republican Party that could do a great job as Speaker.”

Jordan and Scalise, who are both Trump allies, have been locked in a tight race to succeed McCarthy following his removal Tuesday. Eight Republicans had joined Democrats to oust the California Republican, marking the first time a Speaker has been removed through a no-confidence vote.

Some House Republicans floated the former president himself as a possible Speaker nominee, with the conference scrambling to coalesce around a new leader following McCarthy’s exit from a position he had held since January.

Trump appeared to dismiss those calls, saying Wednesday he was “totally” focused on his White House bid. On Thursday, he said he would do so on a temporary basis only “if necessary,” adding to Fox News Digital, “I have been asked to speak as a unifier because I have so many friends in Congress.”

Rep. Troy Nehls (Texas), one of the Republicans who had suggested Trump run for Speaker, posted Thursday evening on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, saying Trump had told him he would back Jordan.

“He is endorsing Jim Jordan, and I believe Congress should listen to the leader of our party,” Nehls wrote.
Let's see, he would be a member of the gang of 8 and would need top secret clearance! If he is paid by the federal government, he would be an elected office holder and be subject to a quick case by the SCOTUS over the 14th, since any member of the house would have legal standing to sue. If not for that Trump would have taken the job himself, but Gym will do his bidding.
 
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"Nobody knows where these people are coming from.
and we know they're coming from prisons.
We know they're coming from mental institutions insane asylums.
We know they're terrorists.
They're poisoning our blood.
People are coming in with disease."
Why isn't this covered by CNN when any tiny slip by Biden is met with shock? He doesn't know where they're coming from, but he knows the rest.

The first 1:35
 

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Trump will endorse Gym, what is the price? If 10 or 20 republicans are gonna jump off the crazy train, now would be a good time to do it because it will get pretty crazy from here on out as Donald goes down in one court after another, state and federal. With Gym running the house Trump can use the republicans like toilet paper to wipe the shit off his ass before they both get flushed. It should be quite the show and ride, especially if a judge were to jail Trump until trial. The Judge in NY who is cleaning Trump out while exposing his shadowy backers should get the most attention over the coming months. Donald is in state court I'm afraid and that didn't work out too well the last time Gym went to NY, better luck this spring for his DC trial, if Chutkan doesn't move it ahead. I would expect an impeachment vote in the house on Chutkan, or probably just an investigation without a vote in the house. Donald will attempt to put heat on her while he is having heat put on him, he really is that stupid.

With the public revelations about nuclear sub secrets spread to a foreign national and the speediness of the other trials with competent judges, it must be putting some heat on Cannon too. She can't help him and if the trial is delayed the odds are he will be tried in a jumpsuit as a federal prisoner and convicted felon several times over and under a life sentence. Then the delays won't matter much, unless they hold him in the local jail during the trial under federal guard.
 

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"Nobody knows where these people are coming from.
and we know they're coming from prisons.
We know they're coming from mental institutions insane asylums.
We know they're terrorists.
They're poisoning our blood.
People are coming in with disease."
Why isn't this covered by CNN when any tiny slip by Biden is met with shock? He doesn't know where they're coming from, but he knows the rest.

The first 1:35
Well, is it senile Joe or Dark Brandon who can run circles around these clowns and amateurs and outsmart them at every turn to get shit done?

The guy who impressed Kevin when he spoke with him and out maneuvered him. Ukraine money will be an issue as will keeping the government open, it will be extortion by Trump. He is fucked in NY, Georgia and DC and shutting down the country won't do a thing about it and Joe would never pardon him federally.

What will happen if the SCOTUS disqualifies Trump in December?
Will the republican house convulse itself? Will the magats go mad?
Will Donald go mad!
Will they attack the GOP nominee at Trump's command if he is disqualified?
Promote his "write trump in" campaign?

Trump will command 30% of the republican base, even if he is disqualified or in prison and it might take until June to get him inside a cell, disqualified or not. His endorsement means everything to most republicans and to be attacked by him is to be primaried by his stooge. He will be going down in criminal court during their primary season this spring and I figure he could even be bankrupt by then. Trump needs to prove he is too big to jail and if he is disqualified, a write him in on the ballot campaign would (in his mind) be one way to do that.
 

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"Nobody knows where these people are coming from.
and we know they're coming from prisons.
We know they're coming from mental institutions insane asylums.
We know they're terrorists.
They're poisoning our blood.
People are coming in with disease."
Why isn't this covered by CNN when any tiny slip by Biden is met with shock? He doesn't know where they're coming from, but he knows the rest.

The first 1:35
He meant the gays donating blood. You know, HIV and stuff.

Don't mind me, did not listen to the clip. The less I hear his voice the better.
 
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