Padawanbater2
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The guy is a world class loser.
socaljoe
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So, I'm no Jon Jones defender. I think the guy has been a tremendous fuckup and has proven to be the single biggest detriment to his own career.
Now that I have that out of the way...I'd highly recommend watching this video where Joe Rogan interviews Jeff Novitsky on his podcast from today, 12/27, where they go very in depth on the Jon Jones case and how the most recent positive test isn't necessarily what it appears to be.
Food for thought...
Now that I have that out of the way...I'd highly recommend watching this video where Joe Rogan interviews Jeff Novitsky on his podcast from today, 12/27, where they go very in depth on the Jon Jones case and how the most recent positive test isn't necessarily what it appears to be.
Except that guy is now a UFC employee. Brendan Schaubs take is much more accurate than three guys paid by the UFC.
Padawanbater2
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What's Shaub's take?
CannaBruh
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That he and Jones are eskimo bros via pee cup.
The problem with this is the athletic commission aren't ufc emplyees. I don't see a government commission giving a license to someone who was dirty. If what they're saying about long term metabolites is bullshit would they go on tv to announce it and bring this media shit storm? How long would it take before chemists and experts in the field disproved it?
I think some of the positive tests came from this past August when he was suspended. I've never used steroids, but I don 't think its a year round thing when you're not fighting.
Some info i found about this.
Because of its fairly weaker strength than Dianabol, the doses required to elicit effects from Tbol are considered to be quite high (this will be explained shortly in the Tbol doses section of this profile).
Probably not something you microdose.
if you scroll down you'll see where it says it has a detection window of 12 months.
https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-profiles/turinabol/
what they should do is not report amounts below a certain threshold. If it doesn't really help performance why create these kinds of problems? This situation doesn't make sense and is a lose lose for everyone except maybe the LA forum.
I think some of the positive tests came from this past August when he was suspended. I've never used steroids, but I don 't think its a year round thing when you're not fighting.
Some info i found about this.
Because of its fairly weaker strength than Dianabol, the doses required to elicit effects from Tbol are considered to be quite high (this will be explained shortly in the Tbol doses section of this profile).
Probably not something you microdose.
if you scroll down you'll see where it says it has a detection window of 12 months.
https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-profiles/turinabol/
what they should do is not report amounts below a certain threshold. If it doesn't really help performance why create these kinds of problems? This situation doesn't make sense and is a lose lose for everyone except maybe the LA forum.
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It’s been 18 months. Training is for sure when they want to be using it. You can train like an animal and have incredible recovery to be able to do it over and over while healing injuries instead of creating them.
He failed 4 other tests since July leading up to this but the UFC has changed their policy of reporting it.
The big problem is he had trace amounts 18 months ago that he got suspended for and 18 months later he now has a higher level. If you are to believe this bs he’s the only person on the planet where the drug multiplies.
He failed 4 other tests since July leading up to this but the UFC has changed their policy of reporting it.
The big problem is he had trace amounts 18 months ago that he got suspended for and 18 months later he now has a higher level. If you are to believe this bs he’s the only person on the planet where the drug multiplies.
CannaBruh
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The real problem is we are basing tests on 1 study.
Fact is Navitsky doesn't know, commissions don't know, all they know is Jones keeps popping dirty.
Metabolite or not, you dirty mofo.
Shaub makes an interesting point.. all the compounding conflating negative shit with Jones and we are to believe he wouldn't use gear? ok..
Fact is Navitsky doesn't know, commissions don't know, all they know is Jones keeps popping dirty.
Metabolite or not, you dirty mofo.
Shaub makes an interesting point.. all the compounding conflating negative shit with Jones and we are to believe he wouldn't use gear? ok..
She’s an obvious steroid abuser but she is fairly new to the UFC so she was doing it in other organizations that don’t test.
The ufc fucked themselves by changing the ped testing. They wanted to pat themselves on the back by cleaning up the sport and it came back to bite them in the ass.
The most surprising thing to me is that people are surprised. The rules don't apply to everyone anymore. Your ppv buys determine what you can and can't get away with. Their biggest star assaulted ufc employees on purpose and was rewarded with a huge payday fight, a press conference and an advertisement on the mat for his whiskey. Keep rewarding bad behavior and bending rules this is what you get. Why wouldn't guys think they can do as they please without issue?
The most surprising thing to me is that people are surprised. The rules don't apply to everyone anymore. Your ppv buys determine what you can and can't get away with. Their biggest star assaulted ufc employees on purpose and was rewarded with a huge payday fight, a press conference and an advertisement on the mat for his whiskey. Keep rewarding bad behavior and bending rules this is what you get. Why wouldn't guys think they can do as they please without issue?
Toxic Avenger
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X2
some other winning picks are...
Chiesa(rnc)
Arlovski(dec.)
Latifi(dec.)
Mendes(TKO)
Anderson(dec.)
Hall(KO)
& Penn(actofgod)
even the prelims are compelling
The drama is with usada is less so Imo
The ufc jumped the shark with this shit when they gave out trt exemptions only to impose preposterous rules they had no intention of following in the first place
Don't get me started on Dana's favouritism not to mention he's the lamest Eskimo bro ever
natureboygrower
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So,if this shit stays in your system for x amount of years,will they ever try and book Jones in Vegas again? Wouldn't that be a risky move,hoping he passes?
CannaBruh
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Shit is about to hit the fan. ANYTHING showing in your system historically puts your ass on the sidelines... Vegas' actions are inline with this thinking.
California licensing Jones is as far as I know the ONLY and major outlier.
California is where he pissed hot and went to arbitration. They were already familiar with the details of the case is why he was able to be licensed.
CannaBruh
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You don't get licensed while popping hot, that's why Nevada said no. California is breaking all precedence in protocol as far as we've seen by licensing him.
Details of Jon's past case are outside of scope of testing. Did you pop? Then you don't get licensed. He got a pass, that's why people are wondering why he isn't still sitting until he's consistently pissing clean.
Not really breaking all precedence brock lesnar fought mark hunt without being part of usada testing for six months. Thats not supposed to happen. Then thers the test of his that disappeared due to "technical glitch" on usada's website a few weeks ago. Just in time to help DC get his money fight.
Notice DC hasn't cried about that drug using junkie getting a pass or 2 yet.
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/25511469/brock-lesnar-change-number-drug-tests-result-technical-glitch-usada-says
California athletic commission say Jones paid his due, people need to get over it.