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Thor_

Thor_

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Conor vs Edgar will be a one sided event and same goes if he moves up. Dos anjos has a good ground game, he showcased this vs showtime. Both petis and Conor are alike, both are quality in the stand up, both are not great on the ground. Both have losses vs fighter with a ground game.

Unless he improves his takedown defence then Edgar will win. Sure he has knockout power and could abuse edger in the stand up. But given Chad managed to take him down with ease, Edgar will keep him on the ground. Dos anjos has a ground and stand up game so in theory is definitely the better fighter on paper. Still think if he moves up, he shouldn't have a shot, he has a win streak on his weight class so was worthy of a title shot but moving up he has 0 wins. So why should he be allowed a shot? He should have to start at the bottom like everyone moving. Him and ronda get special treatment and it's not right.

I'm also starting to think lawler leaves brown envelopes for the judges before the fight.
 
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The_Herban_Legend said:
Dilleshaw got KTFO by Dodson. Dodson got his ass whooped twice by Dimetrious Johnson. Dimetrious Johnson got beat (his only loss) to Cruz. Dimetrious Johnson is currently the pound for pound best fighter. Cruz wins easy!
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Sorry but these are irrelevant. A lot has changed and so have the fighters.

I'm still taking cruz. I think if the cruz of old turns up then it's a W. If I was cruz I'd really get in TJ head, he really didn't like the promo one bit. It's not my favourite part of fighting but you have to respect the effect it can cause. Back it up and you can dictate the fight.
 
Bublonichronic

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I don't see mcgregor actually moving up, why would he he's at the perfect position right now all he has to do is defend the title a couple times and he's prolly the highest paid UFC fighter ever, moving up puts his hype train at risk and Dana Is a smarter business man then that, but if he does move up that does tell that he really is pretty bad ass
 
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Bublonichronic said:
I don't see mcgregor actually moving up, why would he he's at the perfect position right now all he has to do is defend the title a couple times and he's prolly the highest paid UFC fighter ever, moving up puts his hype train at risk and Dana Is a smarter business man then that, but if he does move up that does tell that he really is pretty bad ass
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Dana has already said he is moving up. Conor also said he is and will fight at both weights. This is also the same person that derailed the ronda hype train. He could also be at the wrong weight atm but can cut weight easy enough. It wouldn't shock me if Edgar is the only natural fighter in that weight class.

His next fight better not be Diaz. That's not a fight I'd want to see too much. Pre fight talks would do everyone head in. Both have a big mouth on them.
 
Bublonichronic

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Thor_ said:
Dana has already said he is moving up. Conor also said he is and will fight at both weights. This is also the same person that derailed the ronda hype train. He could also be at the wrong weight atm but can cut weight easy enough. It wouldn't shock me if Edgar is the only natural fighter in that weight class.

His next fight better not be Diaz. That's not a fight I'd want to see too much. Pre fight talks would do everyone head in. Both have a big mouth on them.
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I don't think Dana really thought Holmes could beat rousy, he was prolly thinkin the same thing everyone was rousy will run up grab hear and rip her arm off instead she tryd to box...and I think if rousy would have just stuck with what got her where she is she would've won and prolly will win the rematch....but I didn't realize mcgregor already said he was actually gonna do it, we'll see how well he does against someone his own size
 
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Bublonichronic said:
I don't think Dana really thought Holmes could beat rousy, he was prolly thinkin the same thing everyone was rousy will run up grab hear and rip her arm off instead she tryd to box...and I think if rousy would have just stuck with what got her where she is she would've won and prolly will win the rematch....but I didn't realize mcgregor already said he was actually gonna do it, we'll see how well he does against someone his own size
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Rousey tried to do what she always does and couldn't. She was out classed and a rematch will end the same way or worse. I don't see any reason she should get a rematch anyways it wasn't a competitive fight.
 
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Bublonichronic

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I think anyone who defends a title more than once should get a rematch when they lose it...and rousy only attempted a couple takedowns I'm sure if she would have pushed it she could have gotten more and ultimately the sub, she let her own hype psyc her out and tryd to outbox a boxing champ
 
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Bublonichronic said:
I think anyone who defends a title more than once should get a rematch when they lose it...and rousy only attempted a couple takedowns I'm sure if she would have pushed it she could have gotten more and ultimately the sub, she let her own hype psyc her out and tryd to outbox a boxing champ
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Na, hollys to strong to be held down. She'll get up every time. Imo
 
mr sunshine

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KryptoBud said:
I think being beat like that is gonna effect her a lot, especially after dominating every other opponent her whole career.
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Rhonda is a bully.. I was saying holly could whoop her ass for a while now.. Holly hits hard, her trainer said she held back a lot with her previous fights.He said they needed to get rounds in.. I believe him, the shots Rhonda took were vicious.
 
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Bublonichronic said:
I think anyone who defends a title more than once should get a rematch when they lose it...and rousy only attempted a couple takedowns I'm sure if she would have pushed it she could have gotten more and ultimately the sub, she let her own hype psyc her out and tryd to outbox a boxing champ
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Where is that unlike button, I'd hit it multiple times by now lol. An ex-champion should only get a rematch if he or she is screwed. Rua and Hendricks come to mind. That rousey fight was as close as the uk and Australia. Think holly had the only actual take down of the night. Rousey even tried her judo trip which was denied and holm fell backwards. Technically a take down but not really. She was also dirty in that fight, hit holly after the bell. She didn't swing until she heard the bell.

Rematch is the same result unless she can take her down. She uses a judo trip to ground people, well minus a lucky fall, it was denied. Holm has great ground to standing and is strong there and in the clinch. Rousey best chance is charge and hope you don't get knocked out. Or don't chase her down, box clever and await an actual takedown. She by no means deserves a rematch, neither does Aldo. Both ko way too convincing for a rematch, Aldo one shot but still not a close fight. But if one has it then the other should too. ufc are like a parent that has favourites one child over another.
 
Bublonichronic

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This from the guy who thinks lawler didn't win that fight? He's been robbed and got some lucky breaks in dedsicion that's that, and there is no way condit could have gotten that win especially with a title on the line
 
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Bublonichronic said:
Your prolly right, but we've seen she don't have to hold you down long to get a sub..and I still think Holmes was on something but until she gets caught that means nothing
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Every fighter in every weight class is on something.. Holly is a BAD bitch..she would beat Rouseys ass 10\10 times .

Rousey is the most overrated overhyped athlete of all time.
 
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Bublonichronic said:
This from the guy who thinks lawler didn't win that fight? He's been robbed and got some lucky breaks in dedsicion that's that, and there is no way condit could have gotten that win especially with a title on the line
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well I didn't mention condit above, but yes like many others I thought he won the fight. Even fighters like woodley, thought condit won the fight.im not the only one. Just like the result the fans are split on who they thought won. If I said he was robbed then that's a slight over exaggeration. Not the first time lol

Might try and watch a replay and see if I still swing that way.they Should have a rematch. That fight was great, lawler is steadily become my favourite fighter to watch. Two of the best fights I have from one fighter in a long time.
 
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Yesterday Dana White announced Holm would be fighting, but didn't say who or when. Nice to see they're gonna let her fight and not wait around for rousey for god knows how long. I'm surprised they chose tate as the opponent though. She was promised the rematch against rousey that holm ended up getting, found out by watching good morning America that she wasn't and when she asked dana white about it was told if you don't like it you should retire. I wonder what happens if tate wins, does Rhonda fight her for the belt or the girl that beat her ass?
I think if McGregor goes up to 155 he should have to vacate the 145 belt or fight Edgar before moving up. Can't keep claiming to own or have cleaned out a division when you haven't fought the #1 guy. I'm starting to believe that fight is being avoided for a reason. The ufc is getting a little like wwe with manufactured conflict to sell ppv's. To much attention given to entertainment and not enough on rankings, sport, and competition. There was an interview with Dana White recently where he was saying how good of friends he was with Rousey and talked to her on the phone everyday since she lost. When you're a promoter and you also make the fights having close personal relationships with some of the athletes seems like a conflict of interest. How do you not have favorites? That's why you have Rousey gets the rematch, but not aldo. Cain gets a rematch, but not Weidman. When jones comes back and beats DC again does he get a 3rd shot at jones? This is the only sport where this kind of stuff happens.
 
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