Every leaf is yellow and dieing??

I was at a friends house and he wanted me to see his plants they where 5 weeks into flower and all the fan leafs where yellow and falling off. He said it has been like that since the start of flowering. I have looked on here and havent seen anything close to as bad as his look. What do any of you think this could be? The leafs are YELLOW and falling off to early for PPP I think he said 10 weeks flower but if the leafs are dieing wont the bud start to die as well? I mean this thing looked really bad even the flower leafs are dieing know. He is useing the Earth Juice bloom and that is it. Oh yea the flowers look to be ok though so what do you all think?

there are a bunch of things it could be.. but the best place to start is with the PH and nutes... does he PH his water and nute solution before feeding?? if not there could be lock out or burn occuring... different nutes will get used at different rates.. and if the ph isnt adjusted those nutes can stop being available to the plant.. which means a build up of salts in the soil... which means a fucked up soil ph too... and if thats the ONLY nutes he is using, there are more than likely some deficiencies going on... although NPK are the main nutes, there are about 15 other trace element the plant needs as well... here is my advice..

tell your friend to get a soil ph test kit and some boost nutes, like MagiCal or something along those lines.. have him flush the soil well... after the flushing have him test and adjust his soil ph so its in the right range (around 6.0)... then make sure that he ph's his water/nute solution each time he feeds...

in all honesty from what you have said it could very well be to late in the game to make a comeback... without pics its really hard to say.. and even harder to really be able to tell what the problem is.. but like i said.. most likely its caused by the above.. or rather its a good place to start trying to diagnos the problem at...

No he doesnt check his ph before he waters he said he checks the soils ph and it is at 6.0 so I advised him to and he said no the flowers dont look hurt so he is'nt worried. My question is will the flowers be affected by all the leafs dieing? He is very stuck in his ways but this is the second time I have seen this happen to him but they were mothers he didnt flower so I really dont know if it will get worse along flowering. He said the bottle on his earth juice said 0-3-1 and he counts to four as he pours it into his 5 gallons of water. I think he is messing up but he wont listen. I just hope it wont effect flowers. Help.

Ah man I wish I had a picture of this thing the flowers are nice looking but all around it is dieing yellow and brown, every leaf on it is yellow or brown, except the flower. My m8 is hardheaded and I thought if the leafs die it is only a matter of time before the flower dies right?

Anyone know if all leafs die if it will effect the flowers? Will the flowers die as well? I mean when I flush my plants the leafs turn yellow and die but that is in week 9 or 10 not week 5 or 6?? It is a ppp which is sativa, indica mix so it was to go 10+ weeks then die and he hasent flushed it one time in 5-6 weeks. Any body ever had this happen? He said it started dieing early in flower like week 2 and has got alot worse now.

well to answer simply yes.. if the plant is dieing it will eventually kill the flowers... from the sound of it he is burning the shit out of the plants.. why not measure out the nutes he uses?? counting to 4 really is not a good way to do things... it'd be almost impossible for him to hit the right ppm range with that... and again, there are a lot of other micro nutes his plant is missing out on that it needs... hard headed or not, your friend is not the brightest crayon in the box.. why spend all the time growing just to kill it cause your too damn lazy to check ph and ppm?? oh well... its his plant.. and like i said without pics its REALLY hard to tell anything.. but my money is on it not making it much more than a week or two longer....

Yea simpson you are right some people wont listen I am just worried because he has spent so much money on this lights,co2,nutes,seeds I only wont to help him get the best he can. His flowers seem to be ok though that is what is so strange about it not turning colors or nothing still very white and not to small either why do you think this is??

check for nitrogen content or buy the micro/boost component of a 3 part nutrient set. lots of nitrogen = lots of green.

I try and try with this guy but he thinks he knows everything about growing (which no one could know on his second grow) and flowering so I am stuck arguing with him about it and he just keeps saying look at the buds they are ok. I was taught the plant needs the fan leafs to do there thing there is alot of people who disagree with that and he is one of them. I think (and this is opinion only) the fan leafs and the flower leafs are need to grow top notch stuff. He said I am growing bud not leaf so what can I do right?

sit back and watch him fail majestically? if he's this stubborn and cocky now, then soudns like he needs a good failure of a harvest to get him to listen to advice

Ok that is what I am going to do. It just sucks to see someone spend thousands and fail I wont everyone to do good at what they do and he really needs it you know. Hard times for everyone I hope you all never have to see someone do this to there self

He won't fail actually, the buds will mature like normal and he'll get his harvest. It'll just be half or less the harvest he could have gotten with leaves on the plant.

MJ is tough and will survive, but it won't yield well at all when screwed out of leaves to power it.

GatorTops said:

I was at a friends house and he wanted me to see his plants they where 5 weeks into flower and all the fan leafs where yellow and falling off. He said it has been like that since the start of flowering. I have looked on here and havent seen anything close to as bad as his look. What do any of you think this could be? The leafs are YELLOW and falling off to early for PPP I think he said 10 weeks flower but if the leafs are dieing wont the bud start to die as well? I mean this thing looked really bad even the flower leafs are dieing know. He is useing the Earth Juice bloom and that is it. Oh yea the flowers look to be ok though so what do you all think?

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the plant is under watered

Well thats good to know thanks. Will the taste be good though? Will it still go the full 10 weeks? I wont to be able to go to him and say look this and this wont be as good if you dont start paying attintion.

He only water once a week to I forgot to mention that.

GatorTops said:

He only water once a week to I forgot to mention that.

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100% under watered

game4567 said:

100% under watered

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How often should he water then? He waters every saturday.

Ah I am done talking to him he just got mad and said they would be fine I didnt know what I was talking bout. If you ever try to help someone make sure they want help lesson of the day for me.

GatorTops said:

How often should he water then? He waters every saturday.

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depends on the strain and size of the plants, but like every couple of days expecialy in bud. The reason the leaves are yellowing and dieing is because the plant is sucking all the nutes out of the leaves to try and produce flowers.

I wont to thank everyone who helped me here even If he does'nt listen I on the other hand do and will help anyone that wants help. Again thank you all very much I learnd alot here today peace.