TreesOfLife
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Page 424 is starting point...
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf
euthanasia?
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jeff f
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aw you guys....thats not in the bill. i know i just read it in the bill but its not really in the bill/. this is just good for average americans. right han?
did you also read the part in the bill where there will be a "board" or as i like to call them "the superior ones" that will decide whether you get surgury to remove the cancer or you just get morphine till ya die. but hey, dont believe that either cuz its not in the bill....where i read it.....in the bill
did you also read the part in the bill where there will be a "board" or as i like to call them "the superior ones" that will decide whether you get surgury to remove the cancer or you just get morphine till ya die. but hey, dont believe that either cuz its not in the bill....where i read it.....in the bill
TreesOfLife
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.Calico
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Senior citizens are the highest demographics that vote. Polititicans don't want them dead, on either side of the isle. This is what is ruining the Republican Party. I would vote republican before i voted democrat but this is a stupid arguement. It's as dumb as the commercial with the fat Judd sister saying Palin kills wolves just for the fun of it. Stupid.
Operation 420
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Here is an interesting video about the history of Eugenics in the U.S. If they can take it that far back then, what makes you think they won't go even further now? Considering the fact our science czar is in love with eugenics and subscribes to the same ideology as the people that began it.
[youtube]IaH0Ws8RtSc[/youtube]
[youtube]IaH0Ws8RtSc[/youtube]
hanimmal
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Here is where your theories lose me.
Allowing people to chose how they wish to die at the end, is not Eugenics.
Eugenics is dealing more with not allowing people to be born that don't fit what you want.
We should not inject religious beliefs into things like end of life issues. It should be up to the people on how they wish to pass on. And that is not what they are talking about. They are just saying that people that are sick should decide if they want to not be resuscitated.
Operation 420
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Germany had euthanasia programs, and it speaks about it in the video. Eugenics leads to it eventually. Their goal is the perfect race, you think they will let people they deem unattractive, or unintelligent reproduce?
Quit bringing religion into it. It's nature versus science.
Quit bringing religion into it. It's nature versus science.
medicineman
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Uhh, pass the Koolaide.
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guitarabuser
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My wife said she wanted to youthenize me. I thought she meant she wanted to make me look younger.
hanimmal
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Funny enough all the intelligent people I know have far fewer kids than most the morons I know (and are related to).
Here is a funny vid.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2682654/idiocracy_opening_sequence/
Nobody (that is not crazy) is trying to bring eugenics into America.
The people that get up in arms about end of life issues tend to be the religious sector. I feel that people should be able to chose how they go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case
Operation 420
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They're going to have end of life counselors for people they don't deem worthy to give treatment to. Not people that want to be taken off of life support. You're fighting for something that people have the right to do already.
TheBrutalTruth
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That's because, as I am sure you have experienced, it is infinitely harder for some one with intelligence to actually relate to some one with out. Who wants to spend all their time talking about the imbeciles in hollywood? The idiots that actually believe that it has some effect on their lives, or really is of any great interest.
If you believe that, then should not I be accorded the right to not have insurance, so such freedom is accorded to me in the totality. Obviously if I have insurance and feel that I have not gotten the full value of the premiums that were coercively taken from me at the behest of the government wielding the gun of legalislation then why would I be eager to end my life before sucking as much out of the system as possible (and hopefully more than I was forced to put in.)
hanimmal
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You make a good point. But the facts remain on a whole (you are far more responsible than almost anyone else in your situation) people without insurance will cost the public the money they didn't want to pay.
And if people had more than enough money they would usually just pay the comparitivly low cost that insurance is vs paying for everything they should get out of pocket.
So it is not fair that we should all pay for the (again you are an exception as of this point) people that are irresponsible and milk the system that they do not pay into, even when they are able to.
Operation 420
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You just explained illegal immigrants to a T.
Imlovinit
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There is a major problem with people not paying their health care bills. Mandatory insurance is not the way to solve this problem. I live in MA, am 25, healthy and unemployed. I haven't been to the hospital since i was born. But my states gonna fine my taxes! The gov't can pry that money outta my ass! My aunt got breast cancer, was more insured than any person her doctors have ever seen! They found it late and she got the most amount of radiation given to anyone ever. They figured she didnt have a chance. Her insurance covered shit! Didn't even scratch the surface! She lost everything, her home, car, life savings and dignity. I got fcked by Aetna Ins and my dentist when I was told to have my wisdom teeth removed. I was getting major infections and was told (by my Ins + dentist office) that my ins will cover up to 80% of my bills. Too bad the specialist that did the work wasn't In-Network. My insurance refused to pay it. That was back in 2007. . I can't wait to go to court. Mandatory insurance is bull and only helps our govt steal money out of the pockets of hard working Americans. You either pay to have the insurance or they hit your taxe returnes. Cause ya know the average family has soo much cash to throw around. Well.....that it for my rant.