Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Or_Gro

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Hey man. I can commit daily. I just need to know if she will be ok from bed time to wake up time to off work time. Longest a day she would go without care would be 9 hours.
9 hours works...but daily drops into the 5s won’t....when you put in large amounts of new water, get up early the next morning...

Not trying to be an ass...just the facts...
 

Moabfighter

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I guess my point sort of is this. Let’s say I was home all day. What would be ideal? Adjusting that bucket every single hour if need be? How long until PH swing adversely affects the plant. Because I can fix the swing. But I can’t do anything with it until I get off work 4-5 days a week...
 

Moabfighter

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9 hours works...but daily drops into the 5s won’t....when you put in large amounts of new water, get up early the next morning...

Not trying to be an ass...just the facts...
No dude. We are having a miscommunication I think. I’m not trying to be lazy at all. I’m willing to do whatever it takes to succeed at this minus quitting my day job to plant sit all day.
 

Or_Gro

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I guess my point sort of is this. Let’s say I was home all day. What would be ideal? Adjusting that bucket every single hour if need be? How long until PH swing adversely affects the plant. Because I can fix the swing. But I can’t do anything with it until I get off work 4-5 days a week...
Most of the time is no worries, 0.1-0.5 swing; bigger swings generally caused by: large water/nute additions or infection...you can plan on the first one...
 

Moabfighter

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Most of the time is no worries, 0.1-0.5 swing; bigger swings generally caused by: large water/nute additions or infection...you can plan on the first one...
Okay now we are getting. Somewhere.

So I’m going to be changing the ENTIRE bucket atleast once weekly yeah? I really wish I could just half drain forever. But if I can’t, I can’t. So to account for that entire refill, basically, I’m just going to have to be on my toes getting that PH back where it needs to be as quickly and often as possible, yes?
 

Moabfighter

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if you can swing the cash, a pH controller may be your next step. I invested in a $300 one from bluelab when I upgraded to a trash can for my reservoir. Never have to fuck with it again once the nutes are in. Early on it did take some calibrating, how much pH fluid to drip each time, etc etc.
Sounds like a no brainer to me then.

Is it as simple as you described there.... little curve but nothing major? Sounds like a major problem solver.
 

Moabfighter

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Only way to find out isn’t try man. But from what I’m reading from Or_Grow is your huge tub is going to cause you more issues then using a smaller tub/ bucket. It’s easier to stabilize liquid in smaller amounts vs trying to stabilize a large amount of water.
Ok I’ll buy a smaller tub
 

schmebulock

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Sounds like a no brainer to me then.

Is it as simple as you described there.... little curve but nothing major? Sounds like a major problem solver.
needs pH solution, you can provide your own or get some quart size bottles. has a pump, left side goes into the feed bottle, right side goes to your reservoir. Set your pH to 5.8 or w/e you want (i'm using 5.8 for d2w coco). Check on it the first couple of days because you could come back and it will say "HELP" meaning it can't control the pH with the current settings. Increase your drip time from 1 second drips to 2 second drips and it completely resolved my "HELP" issues.
 

Moabfighter

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Reading back. I now see you were alluding to get a smaller tub....

I’m a little gullible and you kinda gotta look and me and lay down the law. “Dude your tub is wayyyyyy too big for a rookie. Get one way smaller”

I’ll take those kinda of answers all day. It’s what I need to succeed.
 

iceman2494

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Doin 5 gal buckets . Will be running only 2 atm . Space reasons and to get a bigger grasp . Think my main concern is getting these things rooted .
 

3rd Monkey

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Reading back. I now see you were alluding to get a smaller tub....

I’m a little gullible and you kinda gotta look and me and lay down the law. “Dude your tub is wayyyyyy too big for a rookie. Get one way smaller”

I’ll take those kinda of answers all day. It’s what I need to succeed.
The tub will be fine once it stabilizes. 48-72hrs is my benchmark.

It'll hit a point where it won't swing much. That's what you're looking for, then add nutes and ph... Then wait again.

You don't have roots in water right now, so this is the part to dial in.
 

Or_Gro

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Okay now we are getting. Somewhere.

So I’m going to be changing the ENTIRE bucket atleast once weekly yeah? I really wish I could just half drain forever. But if I can’t, I can’t. So to account for that entire refill, basically, I’m just going to have to be on my toes getting that PH back where it needs to be as quickly and often as possible, yes?
I think changing weekly is bullsh!t, bigass waste.

Unless i have lockout or infection i go thru whole veg without swapping out nute soup...but i’m on it like flies on stink.

I do 2nd change at or 1 week after 12:12, switching over to flower nutes, next change after first pistil flush... unless there are probs...next one in late flower 3-4 days before flush, using pre-flush nutes (see technaflora recipe for success to find what the preflush nutes are), then i refill with pH’d water w hg/gff and go till harvest....

Works for me, has a lot to do with keeping everything on target, maybe my particular nutes, but i doubt it.

Btw, nutes are at the bottom of my list for growing strong and big yields....like a lot of farmers, i think nutes are nutes...no need to add pretty labeled, heavy hyped, pricey sh!t...your lights and dialed in process are what counts the most.

npk and micros are the same no matter what bag, bottle, compost pile they come from...
 
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