epic failure..?

jonjon777 said:

I hope so because I'm beginning to lose faith, the bigger one seems decent at best.

Feeding because everyone I know said not to is bs. I'm using a moss perlir verm mix, it contains no nutes. Which I believe could be my problem?

Room is a work in progress, I have a 10x10, two in lines, 3600 watts, 50lbs co2, the works! I figured if I was going to do it I was going to do it right, but it's proving to be more difficult than I thought, its a sno white nirvana strain.I just move them from solo cups. Now this fox farm started at 1/4 dose, attempting to move up but the ppm and ec are just way too high, I don't feel comfortableduring cell any suggestions?

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Are these the same folks that said to use that mix? If they were as good a gardeners you think they are, they would have told you to put EWC in that mix, you would have been good for three months in a pot that size and a plant that small. Plus those should be in a 3x3 nursery pot still. Sounds like " everyone" telling you to, is trying to get your plant dead and funds wasted on shit that's not needed.

jonjon777 said:

I'm assembling bubble buckets as we speak.

What's your suggestions,

Go to 18/6.

Switch nutes

Try different seed bank

I'll do all three! I'm determined.

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weird, so was I, but what are you doing making bubble buckets if you are using FF nutes?

A lot of speculation on this thread. First of all, plants do fine without dark periods during veg.

I've ran 18/6, 20/4, 24 on veg and have noticed very little difference with the 20/4 showing slightly better results and I mean slightly like a day or two faster. But I noticed very little difference between 18/6 and 24. In the summer heat I'll run 18/6 to help combat midday heat, and in winter I typically run 24 to keep the warmth going.

Second, people are commenting on nirvana strains but have not ran them, how does that work?

Oh, I know they're cheap so they must not be as good as a $100+ dollar pack. Just like if I buy a pair of Nikes I could jump 5ft vertically, but if I send less money on converses, I'll only jump half of that height.

I've ran several nirvana strains, top 44, crystal, blue mystic, Ice, PPP, ak 48, swiss miss and a couple others that I can't recall and next to top dollar seeds they fair just the same.

For example my top 44 keeper in 2004 had a raspberryish flavor and was super potent. I only paid $25 for 10 seeds, while my buddy spent $320 on ten Jack Herer seeds from Sensi seeds that same year and dude would sell his Jack buds to buy my top 44. It's all in the luck of the draw.

That being said I have little to suggest to the OP, 30 days and your seedlings should be much larger. Goodluck

I got it! I'm at work dissecting every part of this and ventilation came to my mind... I have two in lines but I'm not using either, just an fan and co2 ATM.so I called by buddy up, he said for a 10x 10 room you want to one cubic foot an hour, I WAS RUNNING IT 15/45 EVERY THREE. SO I NEED 12+ CUFT DAY AND IM USING not even 2!!!

Could this be my problem?

Also I realize this is tedeous and expensive. I'm going to setup intake/outlets high and low.

Any info is appreciated... Thanks!

From the Fox Farm site on Ocean Forest soil:

"Garden tip: Perfect for containers and ready to use right out of the bag. Ocean Forest® is pH adjusted at 6.3 to 6.8 to allow for optimum fertilizer uptake. There’s no need for nitrogen fertilizers at first; instead try an organic blend like FoxFarm Big Bloom® Liquid Plant Food to encourage strong branching and a sturdy, healthy growth habit."

If you're using the grow big, switch to big bloom for a while and see what happens! Hope this helps

PH is 6.6 to 6.9 always. Theyve been on table until past weekend. Him 50_60 temps now 76_78, were 85_90 with low light and co2, which I was told is most efficent. raised light to allow streching from 15_20. Now much cooler,

any speculation is appreciated

Worm castings, he did, I couldn't find them, I should of listened... Also, he said that bulbs no good, its well over a year old! Can anything else go wrong lol... I dont ylthink thats it though, still enough light and no strecking, he said the spectrum wears in about six months..? Now, they are looking healthy, not dying, just not growing fast as normal. So it could be much worse... I'm gonna redo everything! Go to bubble buckets, hang the 1000 watt super high, punch a hole in the ceiling! Literally! Get those inline zooming and try a different fertilizer. His concern was humidity, I have several thermostats in room, only one tells humidity... Looking into seed banks also.

Any other suggestions or questions?

jonjon777 said:

I'm assembling bubble buckets as we speak.

What's your suggestions,

Go to 18/6.

Switch nutes

Try different seed bank

I'll do all three! I'm determined.

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if u want i can mail u some crosses i made, all f1's... i have more than i can ever plant.. i have blueberryx skunk, blue berry x afghan, the only seed i cant give away is my fire og bx3 x shit,,its being called the fire shit round here and everybody wants it, but its been over a year of breeding to get it perfect and now im trying to feminize it..i also have some durban poison crosses and critical mass by cbd crossed w afghan,, anyways, just put a couple bubblers in each bucket w a net pot whatever size u want and rock wool cubes to fit the net pots or insted of rock wool u can use grow rocks, but i prefer rock wool as its a little more of a ph buffer than rocks w/0 ph influence.. I also agree as above, nirvana has great seeds at half the price, im having problems rooting dynamite, a 20 dollar seed and slow growth with 2 15 dollar nl#5 seeds,,pissed that i spent top dollar for crap seeds, better off w/ nirvana or seedsman seeds good to had a great skunk#1 by seedsman and their original afghan was the shit!!