Electrical Ques. If I can help someone I will...

lorenzo08

Well-Known Member
Uh ...

I am still here...

What about this...???

50 amp Breaker > dryer outlet > dryer cord > 30 amp Breaker > 10-3 gage wire to the other room > 6x6 box with (30amp relay???) some sort of a bus bar/distribution center > 16-3 wire to box with 220v outlets...

I am not sure what is supposed to go in the 6x6 box in the guess above...

Anyone...?!:o
maybe you need a new thread to help with your problems. lol. start a new one and post the link in here. I thought we had your problem sorted out the other day.
 

lorenzo08

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now ya done it, ya made me cry :o(
wuz gonna bake u brownies, too...

Jest kiddin. Thanks for reply, have nuther ballast (more of the boyscout in me!). Will swap out before next cycle. Hey, thanks fer yer help and the girls send their love!!
htgsupply.com has ballast rebuild kits for 400 watt hps for $55. got mine there. I really should buy stock in the company. satisfied customer here. got a free lighter and a sticker! sweet..
 

lorenzo08

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Grow shed containing 4 1000w lights and all the works. Water pump, ozone gen, a couple inline fans and exhausts. Everything else only uses a small amount of power.

I'm thinking of using 2 30amp with 10 gauge wire....I'm still not sure how this is all going to look or be setup. If there are 2 open spots in my main home box, how should I do this?

Thanks for the help
I would run a single 50 or 60 amp 220 feed out to the building with 8-3 wire and put in a small sub panel right in the building. then you can run 5 or 6 dedicated outlets right from the box to around the building where ever you'll have the ballasts sitting. you'll have plenty of power and never have to worry about it. is my idea overkill?
 

diemdepyro

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I would run a single 50 or 60 amp 220 feed out to the building with 8-3 wire and put in a small sub panel right in the building. then you can run 5 or 6 dedicated outlets right from the box to around the building where ever you'll have the ballasts sitting. you'll have plenty of power and never have to worry about it. is my idea overkill?
That is not near overkill with the voltage drop. 6 awg copper at least.
The code is the minimum standard.
 

lorenzo08

Well-Known Member
That is not near overkill with the voltage drop. 6 awg copper at least.
The code is the minimum standard.
depends on the distance the cable will be going. what I meant was, 60 amps 220 going to the building may be overkill, but it's what I would do. plenty of room to expand. or if needed, run heaters or air conditioners too.
 

diemdepyro

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depends on the distance the cable will be going. what I meant was, 60 amps 220 going to the building may be overkill, but it's what I would do. plenty of room to expand. or if needed, run heaters or air conditioners too.
I would over kill that too. for future and present.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
My fault for quoting Lorenzo instead of Gypsy.... I just didn't get the meaning of what he had or wanted to do...


out. :blsmoke:
 

winkdogg420

Well-Known Member
1 ballast 1 light thats how it works . i was thinking 4 100 watt hps on a single 400watt ballast but each bulb needs its own:( the $25 e-conolights.com lights come with the ballast included just add wire and plug in ...


Is it possible to have a single ballast that will power multiple 150hps bulb/outlets?
 

Pirate420

Active Member
Quick question. I tried searching through the 54 pages of posts but god there is alot of info. I just got my $25 lights from e-cono lights, the 150w hps. Would it be fine to plug two of these into an outlet? or would that be overkill?
 

keith6901

Active Member
is there any how i can test a 400watt mh ballast to see if it still good witout hookin it up to hydro i got a volt meter if that helps you out thinking ohms but i rather be safe then sorry oh yeah and its a magnetic ballast its a quad hook up low bay fixture
 

BigBudBalls

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Quick question. I tried searching through the 54 pages of posts but god there is alot of info. I just got my $25 lights from e-cono lights, the 150w hps. Would it be fine to plug two of these into an outlet? or would that be overkill?
you will be fine. they plug one 1000w into an outlet. (can't split an outlet)
 

BigBudBalls

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depends on the distance the cable will be going. what I meant was, 60 amps 220 going to the building may be overkill, but it's what I would do. plenty of room to expand. or if needed, run heaters or air conditioners too.
As long as you aren't over committing the service to the house.
 

Tiedstick

Active Member
Just a question regarding HPS (ha, I think I just heard the collective sound of en masse face-palming).

Anyway, about this ballast business. The sheer cost of the complete unit is what puts me off growing all together as I've never been one to compromise - love doing things properly. Anywho, I've seen these units for sale (without the bulb) wired to a normal three-pin plug with no ballast in between. I.e. all it comprises of is the fitting (the HPS E40 housing the bulb goes into), the reflective casing around it and a wire to plug it into a socket, some even without the reflective casing as is the case in the following link:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E40-CERAMIC-LAMP-HOLDER-2m-ELECTRICAL-FLEX-13a-PLUG_W0QQitemZ230318745908QQihZ013QQcategoryZ43555QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Now this suggests to me that I wouldn't necessarily need a ballast for pssh I dunno, a super top secret closet homegrow... or am I missing something important?

Any help would be great folks.

Toke owwwwna.
 

winkdogg420

Well-Known Member
that "normal" three prong is not so normal . it will plug into the output side of a balast this is only a socket,and cord . it will not function without a ballast if you were to plug this into a wall outlet(which you cant) it would not work possibly exploding ,or so ive heard. did you think you figured out the big scam being pulled by electricians all over the world, selling useless ballasts?? they are needed 100% to regulate the voltage,amperage,and frequency of the power going to the bulb. you can however find really good deals on complete setups including ballast bulbs and reflectors! or you could buy the socket mentioned and buid your own ballast for around 50 bucks(pretty simple wiring)! i think you an get the complete deal cheaper than you could build one , i saw a 400 watt complete setup on ebay for 160.00usd shipped free!

hope this helps!



Just a question regarding HPS (ha, I think I just heard the collective sound of en masse face-palming).

Anyway, about this ballast business. The sheer cost of the complete unit is what puts me off growing all together as I've never been one to compromise - love doing things properly. Anywho, I've seen these units for sale (without the bulb) wired to a normal three-pin plug with no ballast in between. I.e. all it comprises of is the fitting (the HPS E40 housing the bulb goes into), the reflective casing around it and a wire to plug it into a socket, some even without the reflective casing as is the case in the following link:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E40-CERAMIC-LAMP-HOLDER-2m-ELECTRICAL-FLEX-13a-PLUG_W0QQitemZ230318745908QQihZ013QQcategoryZ43555QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Now this suggests to me that I wouldn't necessarily need a ballast for pssh I dunno, a super top secret closet homegrow... or am I missing something important?

Any help would be great folks.

Toke owwwwna.
 

Tiedstick

Active Member
Ah I see.

Not so much uncovering a consipracy but not having any ideas about electrics.

Well, there goes that dream - simply don't have the money. All I do have in relation to lighting is a 2.5sq ft flourescent tube (quad-capacity) fixture and four 2ft, 20w (white) flourescent tubes.

From what I've read, that would only be useful for the germination/nursery stage (barely).

EDIT: Or would it? ^
 

winkdogg420

Well-Known Member
start with what you have and add cfls as you go they are a buck or twoeach and might be the way to go if your on a budget! alot of people dont like them but they are growing big healthy plants for me and many others on here! check out my grow in my signature . i firget but i think i only have about 75.00usd invested in my lights!

Ah I see.

Not so much uncovering a consipracy but not having any ideas about electrics.

Well, there goes that dream - simply don't have the money. All I do have in relation to lighting is a 2.5sq ft flourescent tube (quad-capacity) fixture and four 2ft, 20w (white) flourescent tubes.

From what I've read, that would only be useful for the germination/nursery stage (barely).

EDIT: Or would it? ^
 
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