Egg shells, guano, and bananas for nutes? get Rich or die trying.

Is it possible to blend all these things in a blender and use them as natural nutes. I eat everything on that list except guano tee hee. But I am poor and was wondering if this would work. I was also wondering how I would figure the ratios into perplexing question. Thanks.

I think you'd be better off putting them in the compost pile. Make your own soil.

The eggshells for Calcium I found take a long time to water in if you top dress, but everything I've read so far indicates best to compost the banana peel first, which I understand, so you don't have the composting material smelling and raising the soil temp of your grow.

ya don't have time for that spring right around the corner so I guess im stuck buying nutrients

you should add it to the compost, or a make a tea out of it.

http://becorath.com/2013/02/11/homemade-liquid-compost/

Make you a Compost slurry!
Or check out this thread.
https://www.rollitup.org/organics/510995-organic-feeding-101-a.html

Alfalfa from a pet store for like 6 bucks lasts for ever and works great npk of 5-3 1 2 perfect for MJ.

I put two cups of water in a blender a capfull/tbs apple cider vinegar, a b-complex vitamin, a salmon oil cap, a tbs molasses, a tsp epsom salt half a teaspoon of aquarium sea salt then I keep adding alfalfa hay into the blender and blend till I have 3 cups total in the blender one being alfalfa. Then pour into a gallon milk jug wash out the blender but put all of it in the gallon jug then fill but leave an inch or more for it to ferment shake every day don't cap it tight.

It can be used right away but much better if fermented for a couple of weeks it will get nice and stinky but then mellow a bit with low ph then use 1-4 cup of the concentrate to a gallon.

I also do the same thing with shake leaf, oatmeal. coffee or earth worm casings just shake up the concentrate really good so some sediment is in every cup so there isn't much left at the end it can be used as top dressing it works great the oatmeal and EWC are balanced NPK for late flowering and as a change during veg the others are high nitrogen.

I use more alfalfa for most of my feeding because of the growth hormones, with these set concentrates you can feed every time adjusting the strength as the plant gets bigger.

You can do the same thing with your egg shells bananas guano just not much nitrogen in there and the bananas, eggs will need time to break down just blend like I described so it will be consistent.

Also I have given milk 2 tbs to a gallon it is a balanced npk for flower.

Ok thanks but isn't vinegar and salt bad for MJ why would you add this. You may enlighten me. What is a salmon oil cap?

gonjagrower420 said:

Is it possible to blend all these things in a blender and use them as natural nutes. I eat everything on that list except guano tee hee. But I am poor and was wondering if this would work. I was also wondering how I would figure the ratios into perplexing question. Thanks.

Click to expand...

gonjagrower420 said:

Ok thanks but isn't vinegar and salt bad for MJ why would you add this. You may enlighten me. What is a salmon oil cap?

Click to expand...

The Epsom salt has magnesium in it. Not sure bout the vinegar, its a good recipe man.

gonjagrower420 said:

Is it possible to blend all these things in a blender and use them as natural nutes. I eat everything on that list except guano tee hee. But I am poor and was wondering if this would work. I was also wondering how I would figure the ratios into perplexing question. Thanks.

Click to expand...

isnt this right out of the latest skunk magazine? best of skunk vol.6..... i have the issue but i cant find it lol, just bought it yesterday too! covers everything your asking too.

The vinegar is fermented and perfectly broken down into amino acids trace elements and the acetic acid will help break down the mash into vinegar sort of the ph will go right down to 5 or less once it has finished fermenting the elements are available for the plant to use.

I also use the sea salt because it is full of trace elements it has been proven to increase crops. I add a half teaspoon to every gallon of feed water every other feeding I usually and a tablespoon of vinegar and mollases to any water they are both full of goodies.

These 4 foot plants don't mind

bud brewer your plants look great nice job

Thanks I organized and loaded up my album and dumped some pics now I can't edit so here they are again.

coco compost..i want to try that, but im scared that ill have to feed a lot.

i only have to feed my plants twice their entire lives when i use super soil. do you think thats feasible with coco?

I joined this site what, a month ago?
I have only grown MJ once before. Once. And I didn't even take pictures. You get my point.
But I have been gardening my entire adult life, and I learned how to grow food from my father, when I was a kid.
Beyond the obstacles of attempting to bring mother nature indoors, how is MJ different?
I don't force feed my cucumbers with some complex feeding regimen, I most certainly don't defoliate my tomatoes.
I grow plants. It's straightforward and simple. Compost and mulch. Nothing crazy. Does it surprise you that my little strawberry patch makes delicious berries? That my roses bloom unfailingly? (Except that time the county over sprayed and they got a little Glyphosate on them... But that's not my point.)
Anything a person encounters while growing plants was researched decades ago by university scientists.
If you think something is bullshit, check it. If it is, set it straight. Simple. No need to shit on anyone.

Now for the thread. I have a worm bin. I throw my kitchen scraps in there. The worms make castings over time and those are worth some money! It's a cheap and renewable way to get quality inputs.

bmeat said:

coco compost..i want to try that, but im scared that ill have to feed a lot.

i only have to feed my plants twice their entire lives when i use super soil. do you think thats feasible with coco?

Click to expand...

Most super soil mixes call for a lot of peat or potting soil that is almost all peat you can use coco instead it holds ph, water and air better it has long strands that lighten up and aerate a mix it doesn't compact like peat. I don't use much perlite but I added floor dry to my new veg mix it has lots of silica different structure but similar ph, water and air capabilities as coco.

The key is your amendments/compost and how much you want, too much and you got hot mud that will burn your plant before it drowns it (I think you know something about that), to little then you have to feed like soilless.

I make a strong mix but only about 30% compost and EWC I like to add hair, egg shells, alfalfa, coffee, oatmeal, bone meal, lime and organic granules to the compost first.

let it sit a few weeks or more if your compost is muddy turn it over till it has nice texture that is when it is ready and then I'll amend the coco floor dry as I'm mixing the compost in.

For seedlings or clones I cut my hot mix in half with more coco/floor dry so it isn't so strong.

I still feed homemade organic concentrates with most watering but weak to begin with and stronger later because having the right soil texture is more important then having a heavier soil that holds less air and drinks less water.

hmm..i use long stranded peat. you say i can just replace with coco, becuase i might. i also add perlite and lime stone.

i dont make my own compost yet, ill start a pile in the summer, i used the bag stuff..but it works great.

"

Hydrolyzed Feather Meal, Pasteurized Poultry Manure, CocoaMeal, Bone Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Greensand, Humates, Sulfate of Potash, and​

Sulfate of Potash Magnesia.
"
plus biota think i can make a coco that can get me through veg, or feeding minimal every other week with a concentrate?

would rep you if i could, but im not allowed to rep

30% good compost will get you thru veg no problem and would be good the whole cycle if your pots are big with little to no feeding

and you really think coco breaths better than peat?