Edible Help - Decarboxylation

OldMedUser said:

If the butter wasn't clarified then those milk solids would probably end up there tho.

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Yeah good point.

OldMedUser said:

I just ordered 2 gummie moulds. 1-THC and 1-CBD, on sale for $40 each but it's in the states so after exchange and shipping it's costing me almost $150Can. 192 - 4ml cavities each so each batch needs to be 768ml at least to fill them all.

Was wondering what you are using for a recipe and how much does it make? I have one that uses 500g of Jello that should be big enough but looking at a few to figure out the best way to go. Want to do some in chocolate as well. Made some chocolate CBD ones in some cheap moulds recently that work pretty good but only 15 - 5ml cavities each and not cannabis branded like the ones I'm waiting for.

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I started with this

Using the calc as rough guide and altered the recipe a bit.
I work from oil concentrate.

Think off the top of my head my moulds are little gummy bears about 1ml each.
So I use

2x packs of flavoured jello
2 saches gelatine
1 tsp lecithin (in small glass of water dissolving for 48h beforehand)
1tsp guar gum, gives a more solid bear.
50ml mct oil.
10 x 1ml syringes of oil .

I warm the mct in hot water and the syringes.
Empty syringes in warm mct and stir.
Drawing back oil into syringes to get as much out as possible.
Jelly melted in 400ml water, add gelatine, stir while keeping hot in pan of water (all in Pyrex jug)
Add the lecithin to mct and canna oil and crank up.

Add jello mix to oil mix, add guar gum slowly.
Top up water to 640ml allowing 40 ml evaporation.
Stir well and then keep warm while peppeting into moulds. Bang each mould into freezer on baking tray for 10min, transfer to fridge.
Leave over night , then pop em out and stand em all up on their little feet lined up like soldiers on a large non stick baking tray to dry for a week with a pc fan blowing lightly.
Toss in icing sugar, Then you can bag and seal them without them going sticky.

For chocolate I use bigger moulds which are 4ml smiley faces.

Hope that's useful

coreywebster said:

I started with this

https://www.howtoedibles.com/

Using the calc as rough guide and altered the recipe a bit.
I work from oil concentrate.

Think off the top of my head my moulds are little gummy bears about 1ml each.
So I use

2x packs of flavoured jello
2 saches gelatine
1 tsp lecithin (in small glass of water dissolving for 48h beforehand)
1tsp guar gum, gives a more solid bear.
50ml mct oil.
10 x 1ml syringes of oil .

I warm the mct in hot water and the syringes.
Empty syringes in warm mct and stir.
Drawing back oil into syringes to get as much out as possible.
Jelly melted in 400ml water, add gelatine, stir while keeping hot in pan of water (all in Pyrex jug)
Add the lecithin to mct and canna oil and crank up.

Add jello mix to oil mix, add guar gum slowly.
Top up water to 640ml allowing 40 ml evaporation.
Stir well and then keep warm while peppeting into moulds. Bang each mould into freezer on baking tray for 10min, transfer to fridge.
Leave over night , then pop em out and stand em all up on their little feet lined up like soldiers on a large non stick baking tray to dry for a week with a pc fan blowing lightly.
Toss in icing sugar, Then you can bag and seal them without them going sticky.

For chocolate I use bigger moulds which are 4ml smiley faces.

Hope that's useful

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This should help so thanks a bunch!

Those bears ought to be bigger than 1ml I would think as that would be really tiny bears but I'm not the guy filling them.

Where the hell do I find guar gum I wonder? Is it a liquid or powder? I have to go to the city in a week or so for the wife to get some tests done so should be able to find some at a health food store or something. Hoping Costco has bulk bags of jello and stock up on a few different flavours. She has a whole day for these tests so going to grab a hotel the day before and take her shopping then I'll have the next day to run around to all my fave places and not have to worry about her. 2 hours in Princess Auto for sure.

What are you using to fill the cavities? I'm thinking to pour it on the mould, spread it around with a spatula then scrape across the top with a straight edge like a well washed metal machinist's ruler. I can't see myself sitting there for ages trying to fill 192 - 4ml holes one at a time with a turkey baster or some such.

Just how liquid is this stuff when filling the holes? A guy that gave me a big batch recipe says he sprays the moulds with that Pam cooking spray before filling but I don't much like that stuff and it shouldn't be needed I wouldn't think. The chocolates just popped right out after 15min in the freezer.

Thanks again for your help.

OldMedUser said:

This should help so thanks a bunch!

Those bears ought to be bigger than 1ml I would think as that would be really tiny bears but I'm not the guy filling them.

Where the hell do I find guar gum I wonder? Is it a liquid or powder? I have to go to the city in a week or so for the wife to get some tests done so should be able to find some at a health food store or something. Hoping Costco has bulk bags of jello and stock up on a few different flavours. She has a whole day for these tests so going to grab a hotel the day before and take her shopping then I'll have the next day to run around to all my fave places and not have to worry about her. 2 hours in Princess Auto for sure.

What are you using to fill the cavities? I'm thinking to pour it on the mould, spread it around with a spatula then scrape across the top with a straight edge like a well washed metal machinist's ruler. I can't see myself sitting there for ages trying to fill 192 - 4ml holes one at a time with a turkey baster or some such.

Just how liquid is this stuff when filling the holes? A guy that gave me a big batch recipe says he sprays the moulds with that Pam cooking spray before filling but I don't much like that stuff and it shouldn't be needed I wouldn't think. The chocolates just popped right out after 15min in the freezer.

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Gaur gum is a powder, it's prone to clumping when you add it too but I find it does eventually dissolve with a good stir.
I got mine on ebay but any chef supply store should have it.

I use a pipette which came with the moulds but it is time consuming. I have tried pouring it in, bears really are tiny so it's messy but if your using 4ml moulds you could defo pour in and straight edge the surplus, let it dry and chuck it back in your next batch and it will dissolve again.

The liquid is very runny as long as you keep in warm , soon as you chuck it in fridge it will thicken up.

The lecithin can be bought as a liquid so if you can buy it like that, saves you trying to dissolve the powder beforehand.

As for spraying oil onto mould, as long as its a silicone mould don't do it, not needed and it makes a right mess. If you have issue getting them out just freeze and pop em out real easy.

When drying don't let them fool you, they seem hard and dry before they really are. If you toss a few in icing sugar as a test youl find I they aren't ready the sugar will turn them sticky and melt them a bit.

Also I won't make sour ones because absorbic acid tends to make them unstable and won't set properly.

I highly recommend mct oil rather than coconut oil, its like a multiplier, helps the body absorb the cannabinoids. I think this is why my small dose bears do far more than other peoples high dose edibles.

Good luck dude

I recently got a new bottle of liquid sunflower lecithin and have lots of MCT so good to go there. I eat some of both in protein shakes every day. Bought 16lbs of hemp hearts and 8lbs of the hemp protein a month ago and go through lots of that. I'm not a big eater so needed to up my protein. Some milk, keifer, 3 heaping Tbsps protein powder, Tbsp of oat bran, tsp lecithin, Tbsp of cocoa, splash of real maple syrup and a dash of iodine.

I read in one recipe to add citric acid for sour gummies but wasn't planning to do that.

Our humidity is pretty low here so hoping they dry fairly quick. Wonder how they do that in big places that produce millions of gummies like for vitamins etc. Bet there's a uTube for that.

My step-daughter told me she tried one of the chocolates last night and definitely caught a mild buzz. She doesn't use pot but had a bad trip eating one of my kief cookies a few years ago by accident. She has serious monthly pains and the CBD gummies we got at the store helped with zero buzz so once I make the main batch of oil I'll need to get it sampled right away so I know what's in it. Hope she was just having a 'placebo' high because of the bad experience. Up to 1% THC would be OK but lower is better for many uses/users.

If only there were a whole easily accessible forum where you could read the details of how to best decarb in a number of ways, has a variety of well tested recipes for making butter and other products.

Oh wait...

...there is.

The OP should deep dive here to figure out how to do it successfully and also the best methods and ways to decarb, make butter, and other edible recipes.

I haven't been oven-decarbing lately, but I was generally doing 250f, using a sealed mason jar and doing it for 50-60 minutes. That extra time is because it takes a bit to heat the jar and the air inside up to temperature.

I've also decarbed by sous vide as well as by 'machine'.

For butter, if you want less green, don't break up your cannabis as much so there's less chance for chlorophyll to leach into the water in the butter. Also use a 'water wash' process once you've done your infusion process to remove as much of the hydrophilic stuff (chlorophyll, etc.) as the TCH bonds with the oils.