Economy&Seeds$/Prices/Offers-Supply/Demand

Hi,
I open this thread to talk about money, prices, value offers,supply/demand, discounts ,comparisons in relation to the seed market, regardless of quality

I see that the same thing is repeated in several other threads of different breeders

My experience, what I paid the most for a pack was $500 in 2020, Papaya Runtz
I sold them,
this year 2022 I paid $350 for JuicyJ seedjunky, I sold them again, I did not win or loseI felt somewhat cheated with Neptune since days later they put it on sale with a %35 discount

at the moment I don't pay more than $200 for anything and I prefer to wait for the 30-%50 discounts hopefully under $100 ,
i pay full price for PhennoAddict× Crane $185
since they were sold for $200-$250 and supposedly 10 fem come, not just 6

i buy tiki fem x $55 my last purchase( normal value $85)

packbanditz It's on sale to 30 Oct

I very rarely ever buy a pack unless it's on sale now. There's just too many sales and seeds everywhere. $150 is about my limit on a pack. Has nothing to do with what I can afford and everything to do with so many other choices for far less and if something for $300-$500 is so great then I'm sure I'll see a pheno hunted clone of it for sale for much cheaper.

The seed game is a joke. I don't buy any of those cartoon themed pollen chucks people pay $30+ a seed for. I've never even paid more than$10 for a seed and even then I felt violated.

I don't need any of the Instagram hyped crap out there and I never will.

When my buddy paid $300+ for a 10 pack of sensi seeds jack herer in 2003 or 2004 and I got better plants out of $25 pack of top 44 by nirvana I realized those high prices are just marketing.

Do you really have better odds of finding a keeper in a $300+ dollar pack of 12 reg seeds from Archive as you would 3 fem packs of 7 seeds from CSI? Doubtful.

But it's about work put in, not marketing lol

No body should be charging those prices but people pay it so they just keep on pumping them out.

-EXOTIC $150 lastdrop2022 $100
-SKUNKHOUSE $150-200 lastdrop2022 $100
-TIKI $120 lastdrop $85
-SEEDJUNKY $300-350 lastdrop 2022 $225
-PhenoAddictxCrane $250 lastdrop2022 $150
(last drop 2022 is normal prices)
-years ago Neptune only had discounts a few times a year,
as of today EVERY WEEK reaching %50 discount sometimes

The global economic trend is downward
never bet against the trend experts say,

seedbanks/Breeders are free to sell at whatever price they want,
It is the responsibility of the consumers to control their expenses

Yep, it’s called capitalism folks. Spend your money where you’d like and keep it moving regarding the places you don’t.

Learning1234 said:

Yep, it’s called capitalism folks. Spend your money where you’d like and keep it moving regarding the places you don’t.

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Absolutely. It's just a bit more ridiculous in the cannabis seed market since it's completely unregulated and without official standards so it relies on marketing hype.

the users themselves are the ones who must regulate supply and demand,
if you find it expensive don't buy it,
it will stack and end up falling or you will buy a clone or F2/hybrid later,

cannabisseeds are not a vital product for anyone, I do not see a regulation other than that of the informed users/buyers themselves,
hype infects if you don't manage your emotions

Would you like a government or institution to regulate seed prices?for my part absolutely not

the seedmarket is oversaturated

I didn't mean regulation on prices. I meant more like regulations on quality and such. Things like usda organic and such. Buyer protections and claims.

xtsho said:

The seed game is a joke. I don't buy any of those cartoon themed pollen chucks people pay $30+ a seed for. I've never even paid more than$10 for a seed and even then I felt violated.

I don't need any of the Instagram hyped crap out there and I never will.

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Yep agreed

Packs straight from the breeder are best in my opinion. 90 bucks was most I've ever spent on a 5 pack. Been running autos from Jean O for a year now like 25 bucks for a 3 pack. Excellent smoke and the price is right.

I've only bought about a dozen seed packs in my life and did not spend much on any of them. Got four clones, (two each from different mothers), of a strain called Cherry Noir from a buddy back east last year and they are nice. Him and a friend spent $550 for the seeds and he wouldn't even let me pay for the shipping. Just wanted his clone shippers back so I washed them good and stuffed them with baggies full of a few different strains before packing them up. A couple months later asked him in a PM if he'sd tried any yet and he said he just put the package up on the shelf and didn't look inside. lol

I'm spraying one of each with STS to make more fem seeds and think I'll dust some buds on those with some Chocolate Diesel fem pollen someone sent me recently just for the hell of it.

Lot of pollen-chucker junk out there going for way more money than they're worth so buyer beware.

I order directly from csi when he has one of his big sales and I get twice as many as I order with all the freebies. The only other breeder I use is dynasty and I usually wait for a sale for his as well

slacker140 said:

Absolutely. It's just a bit more ridiculous in the cannabis seed market since it's completely unregulated and without official standards so it relies on marketing hype.

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No it isn't "completely unregulated". It still has many aspects of government intervention / regulation. They were the ones that fucked it up in the first place and caused the high prices in weed and seeds. That continues today.

Can you just open a seed selling business at your home without possible legal repercussions? Off your front lawn ?

It SHOULD BE completely unregulated by government, In that case it would be regulated by free market customer feedback. Good reputation rewarding and bad reputation sending a market signal to improve or perish. Supply and demand, as it should be.

slacker140 said:

I didn't mean regulation on prices. I meant more like regulations on quality and such. Things like usda organic and such. Buyer protections and claims.

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No offense, but asking the same gang that fucked things up in the first place to now regulate the fucked up market they caused will have unintended consequences. Besides, I'm not willing to give "regulators" a fucking dime. NADA, fuck them, they should get involved in services people willingly pay for, not some regulation scam. Did I mention fuck them?

Speaking of sales tscnovelties got 50% off with flash50 code

Rob Roy said:

No it isn't "completely unregulated". It still has many aspects of government intervention / regulation. They were the ones that fucked it up in the first place and caused the high prices in weed and seeds. That continues today.

Can you just open a seed selling business at your home without possible legal repercussions? Off your front lawn ?

It SHOULD BE completely unregulated by government, In that case it would be regulated by free market customer feedback. Good reputation rewarding and bad reputation sending a market signal to improve or perish. Supply and demand, as it should be.

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You can provision a VPS, setup a website, and start selling seeds from that. The chance of any legal repercussions are minimal. If you claim the income and pay taxes on it then you're 99.9% going to be good to go as the main thing you have to worry about is the IRS and failure to pay taxes. $30 a month to host the website and a few hours to set it up if you have just a rudimentary knowledge of putting up a website. Then hype everything on Instagram, spam the forums, etc... The most difficult part is is going to be accepting payments which is why many US outfits only accept cash.

There is no regulation on any claims you make and the chances of any legal action against you are next to none. Pay your taxes and you will be fine.