Easy Ryder 250w CFL Grow - Number 2

Hi

This grow has been going for about 3 and a half weeks now but i have only gotten round to starting the grow diary.

This will probably be the last grow we do, long story short, my mates gf found out about the grow, the hypocritical... best watch my tongue.. has a problem with it, because it's immoral or some shit, but she smokes herself.. wtf. So yea, we can keep this one apparently, but no more

It's been really awkward tbh, new house, new housemates, mates gf, trying to hide it, trying to sort things out; water, moving the light up, take photos etc, has become quite difficult. I have been putting in 100% of the effort despite the fact this was supposed to be a joint operation, but oh wells, enough of my bitching.

Strain is Easy Ryder again, same 250w CFL, blue for veg, red for flowering.

6.5litres pots without the tops cut off this time, so much bigger pots, major downfall of this is less height.

Plant Magic light mix soil (fuckin john innes caused so many problems last time) no perlite as something similar is already mixed in with the soil apparently.

Started off ok, gave 2ml/l of root juice after 1 week i think it was, then plain, then 2ml/l root juice and 1ml/l of bio grow, then plain, then next water i'm going to give them 2ml/l root juice, 1ml/l grow and 1ml/l of bloom.

Haven't gotten round to naming them yet, tbh i don't know if i can be arsed. One of them has been retarded since day one, literally it's leaves were all rounded and still sort of are, and it just looks very odd, other is ok but very short, and the other one.. my god, she's on steroids i think, she's bloody massive already!

This of course poses a big problem, height is extremely lacking in the grow space, i have lst'd her this evening, but i think it may have been to late.. if the lst'ing isn't enough, then i really dont know what were going to do if she hits the lights

We also got a carbon filter, extractor fan and ducting, it has sorted the smell out a fair bit, but, not only is it really loud, which is very bad (landlord and what not) but the temps have shot up, 95F it was tonight I'm compensating by putting frozen bottles of ice in there, but i can't do it all the time and it melts after not too long.. not good.

I'm going to make one of those homemade co2 things. Last grow, need to absolutely maximise yield.

I'll post the next pics on wednesday.

40 grams to beat, come on!

Week 1, Day 7

Week 2, Day 14

Week 3, Day 21

Ahhh bad times! went to water them tonight and they were bone dry, seriously droppy :'(

They are being watered as i speak, but i'm not sure if they are too far gone! i can't believe this happened.. it's so bloody awkward.

Week 4, Day 28 (bit late):

So they recovered from their lack of water (for the most part). Here are a few pics from week 4, couldn't get many good ones due to the awkwardness of the whole thing.

Will try and update on Wednesday if they are still alive (long story, but suffice to say my partner in crime seems to think i should be doing 100% of it and this just isn't possible in the current situation)

The day before yesterday i asked my mate (who's supposedly doing the grow with me) to water and move the light up, because i haven't been able to do it due to it being to suspicious to go into the grow room when he's not there, and he said yea he would do it. Then he texts me yesterday evening telling me i need to water.. i was like wtf.

So when i finally managed to get in there, i only had chance to give them a bit of water which i couldn't ph balance, and had to use a left over watercan ful of nutes when it was supposed to be no nutes this water. They were also almost dead, due to lack of water, and i dont know if they are beyond saving now.

This grow may have to come to an end, my mate is really pissing me off and just seems to be unwilling to put ANY effort in.

Bad times indeed

Week 5, Day 35:

They seem to have recovered mostly. Their is evidence of heat stress (if anyone could look at the pics and let me know what they think i would be grateful) and they weren't watered fully and they had to have a bit of water tonight then we are going to water them properly again tomorrow with nutes.

The big one is fookin' massive, i'm trying to tie everything down that gets too tall, i just hope it stops growing upwards soon.

Sorry the pics are a bit shit, will try and get better ones for next weeks update.

Thanks for the journal. I have a lowlife ak 47/kush going and it's nice to see other people doing autos.

I can't tell if that's heat stress from the pic. I'd just keep the air moving and keep an eye on them. I've found most autos to be pretty resilient once they've showed sex. Keep up the good work, I'd subscribe but idk how.

boupstarnm said:

Thanks for the journal. I have a lowlife ak 47/kush going and it's nice to see other people doing autos.

I can't tell if that's heat stress from the pic. I'd just keep the air moving and keep an eye on them. I've found most autos to be pretty resilient once they've showed sex. Keep up the good work, I'd subscribe but idk how.

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Yea they definitely are pretty resilient!

The air is moving, but the extraction fan has to be on the low setting to reduce noise, so it doesn't get rid of the hot air fast enough, temps have been 90+ in there.

Lol i'm not to sure how to subscribe to threads either. You got a grow diary for your grow? I'll check it out

They seem to be doing alright at the mo, i did a lot of lst'ing this evening on the massive one, so now nearly all the side colas are the same height as the main cola, thus getting lots more light, thus hopefully increasing yield!

The other two do look pitiful compared to the massive one though lol and she's taking up so much space she's hogging light from the others. The retarded one.. my god it is so retarded, dunno wtf is wrong with it, but every single leaf just isn't shaped right and grows really weirdly, i wonder if the smoke will be any different from the other two?

Also gave them a good watering with 1ml/l grow and 2ml/l grow, and spent a good while arranging them all under the light for maximum efficiency, it's like one big canopy of colas lol

Been able to get so much done cause the house was empty!

Took a couple of photos, but they arn't that good, i really can't work out how to use the camera properly lol

I'm glad I found your thread! I put 3 - Easy Ryder seeds into soil on 9/10 and all 3 are doing well. I'm growing with cfls but I added 3 - 1 foot square LED panels in the grow room. They really make a difference.....they doubled in size in just one day! What kind of yield have you gotten from your past ER grows? I've read that the potency and yield aren't very good with easy ryders....is that true? Continued luck on your final grow and + rep!!!!

spontcumb said:

I'm glad I found your thread! I put 3 - Easy Ryder seeds into soil on 9/10 and all 3 are doing well. I'm growing with cfls but I added 3 - 1 foot square LED panels in the grow room. They really make a difference.....they doubled in size in just one day! What kind of yield have you gotten from your past ER grows? I've read that the potency and yield aren't very good with easy ryders....is that true? Continued luck on your final grow and + rep!!!!

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Alright bud, you got a grow diary i can check out?

I got 40 grams from 3 for my last grow, but that was a first grow and there were complications which effected the yield and bud quality.

I reckon these girls are doing a lot better than last time, the monster which has been lst's should produce quiet a nice yield as all the colas are pretty much at the same height.

Last time, i believe the potency could have been better and will be with these ones (dried to quick and problems due to heat and what not at the end), but saying that, after curing it was much nicer than any weed you would pick up round here.

I would say definitely take time when drying them, and definitely cure them for atleast 2 weeks.

Check out my old diary, might be able to see where i went wrong and make sure you don't repeat my mistakes lol.

Either way i think you'll be quite pleased with the results; is this your first grow?

Spetznaaz said:

Alright bud, you got a grow diary i can check out?
I got 40 grams from 3 for my last grow, but that was a first grow and there were complications which effected the yield and bud quality.
Check out my old diary, might be able to see where i went wrong and make sure you don't repeat my mistakes lol.
Either way i think you'll be quite pleased with the results; is this your first grow?

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Thanks for the info. I haven't started a journal yet, (waiting for a friend to return my camera). I've smoked some easy ryder that a friend of mine grew, and it was very good! I've been growing indoors for about 4 years. I grew some AK47 earlier in the year and was impressed with the potency. The yield though was really disappointing. I wish I had my camera right now. When I added the LED panels, the plants really took off!!! The suckers are gonna be huge! anyway, thanks again!

Okay......I keep forgetting that I have a camera on my cell phone. Here's a couple of pics of one of my Easy Ryders. I've got 3 growing and they are all 19 days old, (put into soil on 9/10). Look at the monster leaves on this sucka!

Their Lookin' good man

Week 6, Day 42:

Went to water them today and the beast was seriously lacking water, and the leaves were all droopy again, third time this has happened and it loses leaves every time, hopefully it won't effect yield too much though.

Apart from that they seem to be doing ok, were given about 5 litres of pH balanced water between them. They retard seems to be the least developed, followed by the best, and then the other one is quite developed, crystalling up quiet nicely.

They seem to have stopped growing upwards which is good cause we are seriously running out of space.

Here's a few pics, sorry about the quality i still can't work out how to use my god damn camera phone properly!

Week 7, Day 49:

Not good times.

The big one's leaves have gone yellowish / lighter, no idea what this could be.. any ideas?

Apart from that things are ok, they seem to be budding up ok, and are stinking like hell. These yellow leaves are quite worrying though, i was wondering if it was heat stress, as it is very hot in there, so i moved the light up, but i don't want to deny them lumens, if it isn't heat stress.

I can't imagine it would be a nute deficiency either as we gave them a big water of 1ml/l grow, 2ml/l bloom a couple of days ago, and nothings changed since.

If anyone has any idea of what could be wrong with her from the pictures please do say

I'm really worried it's going to effect her yield, and she is so big, it would be such a big waste if she didn't produce to her full potential.

Sorry about the lack of variety in the pics, it was very dodgy taking them today.

Edit - comparing the pics from last week and this week of the big one, she is a hell of a lot lighter / yellower than last week.. i looked at different nute problems, but i still can't pin point what's wrong with her

Spetznaaz said:

Week 7, Day 49:

Not good times.

The big one's leaves have gone yellowish / lighter, no idea what this could be.. any ideas?

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I have to wonder if they're turning yellow because they're nearing the end of their life cycle. Like tree leaves turning yellow in autumn. Outside of the leaves, the ladies look very happy and healthy. I tend to think it's just a "sign" that harvest time is near!

spontcumb said:

I have to wonder if they're turning yellow because they're nearing the end of their life cycle. Like tree leaves turning yellow in autumn. Outside of the leaves, the ladies look very happy and healthy. I tend to think it's just a "sign" that harvest time is near!

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Hmm i dunno man, it's the fact it's only happened to one of them which worries me.

Been havin a shit load of trouble with the light recently, the timer was 'fucked' and wouldn't turn on, so they lost many hours of light / had their light cycle totally fucked up for a few days. I couldn't work out what was wrong with it, until today i realised random mode had been switched on! So yea that's all sorted now but cant imagine it did them any good.

Temps are insane, 95F in there tonight.. really not good, i kept telling my mate to open the window which he finally did, but he really seems to have lost all interest in this project. It's pretty much 99% effort is done by me, but he will get 50% of the rewards.. hmmm.. apparently it's fair because he#s taking all the legal risk - may-be, but we agreed to 50/50 effort. Oh well, i enjoy it, if only it wasn't so fucking dodgy all the time.

Took a few pics tonight while i watered them with plain pH'd water, the big one still looks very unhealthy, they were all so thristy though, took a whole 5 litres between them.

I've made a thread about the pale leaves problem, hopefully someone will have an idea.

Apart from that, they seem to be budding up nicely, but at varying stages of development - i.e on some colas/plants the pistils are starting to turn orange, and on others the buds are still in the beginning stages of forming..

We shall see anyway.. could go either way me thinks. Fingers crossed mind.

Edit - Oh i forgot to say, i noticed mold forming on all the dead leaves in the bottom of the pot. I cut off all the dead leaves and picked any up off the soil, but with the humidity so high, i'm quite worried about bud rot now. Anyone know any way to lower humidity short of buying a dehumidifier?

Week 8 - Day 56:

Things are not going well at the moment. The big one, and now the retarded one (but to less of a degree) still have major problems. Check out my post about it for more detail - basically for an unknown reason the leaves are going very pale/yellow and crisping up and the lower ones are very droopy.

Watered with 1ml/l grow, 1ml/l root juice, and 3ml/l of bloom the other day - i was hoping this would help, but it hasn't. When i checked the run off on one of them the pH was 6.0 or lower! I don't know how this happened as i've been very careful with the pH.

I'm going to follow some advice i was given, and flush them in a few days, try and sort the pH out, and hope it sorts itself out.. we will see.

Apart from that, the healthy one seems to be doing well, the buds don't seem to be very big though, but a lot of the pistals are starting to turn orange. It would seem the pistils on the other 2 are all still white - i have a feeling this problem might be causing the slow development..

Oh well, will see how things go, and hope for the best.

I have just spent the past 2 hours flushing the big one. I started out with pH balanced water, checked the pH and it was the same, so i then had to use water straight out the tap, which has a pH of 7.whatever my pH tester scale goes to, very dark blue basically.

So i was pouring through litre after litre of this stuff going in pH dark blue, coming out pH light yellow.

After about 25 litres of water, i managed to get the pH up to about 6.4 which i know isn't ideal, but i'm hoping it will be ok, because i couldn't continue, it was getting too dodgy, nearly got discovered by one of my housemates.

We shall see.