Early flower defoliation, lollipoping? When should I do this?

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Mediclove

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Btw this is my first grow and I’m really enjoying the process and learning experience and have been studying growing for over a year now and have loved to implicate all I have learned. However, I am still new to growing and all tips and tricks are a welcomed gift
 
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MICHI-CAN

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Mediclove said:
It’s gonna be a jungle canopy
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I pack my 4x4 on occasion. Not sure what you know. Don't want to offend. Just help succeed. Jungle is associated with rot. Problems. The denser the foliage, the more defol is required. PM and mold are indoors as well as out. Just provide a home.
 
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creating an environment for optimal growth and development have been a key driving point for my tent. I have been able to maintain a temp of 70-74° during the day with a humidity of 40-50% however, at night humidity will stay the same around 40-50% but my temp does drop to 60° sometimes even 59-58°. So the temp is always something to be concerned about but yeah bud rot I don’t want I want ample circulation in my garden so Got a Oscillating tower fan/ space heater combo. Which has seemed to help. But it’s getting bushy so my concern has been when in this stage of flower I should give it a leaf stripping and lollipoping it. I have only just given it it’s second feeding of bloom nutrients and have slowly decreased the ratio of nitrogen and have noticed some serious growth and I just don’t know if it will negatively hurt it if I high stress train it like that while it’s still going through it’s stretch
 
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MICHI-CAN

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Mediclove said:
creating an environment for optimal growth and development have been a key driving point for my tent. I have been able to maintain a temp of 70-74° during the day with a humidity of 40-50% however, at night humidity will stay the same around 40-50% but my temp does drop to 60° sometimes even 59-58°. So the temp is always something to be concerned about but yeah bud rot I don’t want I want ample circulation in my garden so Got a Oscillating tower fan/ space heater combo. Which has seemed to help. But it’s getting bushy so my concern has been when in this stage of flower I should give it a leaf stripping and lollipoping it. I have only just given it it’s second feeding of bloom nutrients and have slowly decreased the ratio of nitrogen and have noticed some serious growth and I just don’t know if it will negatively hurt it if I high stress train it like that while it’s still going through it’s stretch
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Defol should have started on the big girls some time ago. But you have two weeks before I've noticed any effects. Start by opening it up. Shade leaves half the height of plant. Anything growing inwards. Just leave the shade leaves one node below the level you decide on for lolli popping. By week 5 of flower everything you are not intending to grow should be gone. Then just keep inward growth to minimum and keep shadows to minimum when possible on buds.
 
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So like based on the photos and knowing that these are indica dominant and in your experience should I still be expecting any vertical stretch from this plants going forward
 
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MICHI-CAN

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Mediclove said:
So like based on the photos and knowing that these are indica dominant and in your experience should I still be expecting any vertical stretch from this plants going forward
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That will be determined by the lights conditions. Look compact. I would not expect a huge stretch.

Also that heat swing needs to be adjusted. Below 70 is pm prime in the dark. Temperate strain.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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Like the training. My kinda fun. About 18" up and same out. Tops do divide yield after about 4. Or I should say growth. 6 smaller are still heavier. LOL.
 
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Mediclove

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MICHI-CAN said:
That will be determined by the lights conditions. Look compact. I would not expect a huge stretch.

Also that heat swing needs to be adjusted. Below 70 is pm prime in the dark. Temperate strain.
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What would you recommend my environment factors be such as temp and humidity both during light and dark cycles
 
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PadawanWarrior said:
I'm sure he's helping you fertilize too. Cat shit isn't an approved OMRI.
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I'm ecstatic. I have a deranged groupie.

Again, please stick to thread. Blatant derailment to attack me is just juvenile and humorous even though it has frightening implications as to your mental state.

Please go poke someone who's not going to laugh at you. Uncork another pint and suck another fag.

I get wanker jokes now. Thank you for that one at least.

Peace.
 
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PadawanWarrior

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Mediclove said:
So like based on the photos and knowing that these are indica dominant and in your experience should I still be expecting any vertical stretch from this plants going forward
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Those plants look great. I would just leave them alone. Maybe pull a few leaves off from inside the canopy if they're blocking airflow, but I don't like to butcher my plants. I do lollipop and do some selective defoliation.

Some strains stretch less than others. So a lot of it is genetics, but you can manipulate the stretch to some degree.

First do some research on negative temperature differential. It almost works too good.

Here's one quick link I just found to give you an idea.

DIF For Control of Plant Stretching on Bedding Plants, Ornementals and Transplants | PT Growers and Consumers

Control plant stretching with the “DIF” technique. Find out how to adjust day/night temperatures for healthier plants.
www.pthorticulture.com www.pthorticulture.com

There's other more stressful ways to keep it from stretching too.

Of course I'm assuming you've got enough light to not cause them to stretch looking for light.

Training your plants during veg can also massively limit the stretch.
 
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