Earl's WidowCindy Grow Produced by Speedhabit

So I was cleaning out the vegg room so I decided to warm up my ballast pre-flowering with some 24hr metal halide time. I moved all my stuff down there.



Of course the little guys are the widow cindy, and they are getting new soil today.

8 inch plant in a tiny pot = Some bounded up roots.

Lots of growers have secrets to winning, mine is....I cheat

In about of month the root ball should look like this

Here are a couple of shots of them repotted in 1gal grow bags full of FFOF in the flowering room (currently in vegg mode) Plants are between 6-9in.

So there we go, As soon as I can clone a branch ill number them and flower the clones to determine sex. Ill follow this up with some room pics a little later. Keep tokin!

Comments?

I never understood the clone to figure out sex..... I dont think theres any males in those pics....maybe the last one....Ive seen most growers do that technique....my boys showed sex in the third and forth week, after they sprouted....sex is easy to determine....if you wait another week youll surely know thier sex...and then clone them.

How do you tell sex in veg? They dont show sexual characteristics till you flower them. And for the love of god tell me how you can tell from the above photos.

Shittt....maybe i did something wrong....but 3 of my 5 masta kush babies showed early(sacs)if there not showing yet.... i would think there female....like i said balls show first...

Nah dude, Sex characteristics show AFTER a few weeks flowering or sometimes after an extensive (2+months) vegetation period. Unless a strain was auto flowering I certainly would not expect to see sexual charicteristics after a month.

Again the ONLY way to tell sex is at the nodes.

These are two random inter nodes of the widow cindys.






For the sake of comparison, here is a re vegged satori clone at 2 months.



You will note the two "barb" like protrusions are much larger then the widowcindy. This is due to the age. The little ball between them is the female sex organ, just barely viable. In fact male plants often look like this very early when you can only make out one ball, my rule is as soon as I see two balls I kill the plant.

For bumpage here are some setup pics.


1000 Watt HPS/MH from HTGsupply. Easy cool 8 reflector plumbed with 6in tubing from outside to outside. Its cooled by a home depot 6in duct booster fan.



6in fan


Here is my odor control, a homemade carbon scrubber. It looks a little ghetto because I tore it apart refilling it this time around so pardon its appearance, but it totally masks the odor.




The Filter/ room exhaust is run by an 8in home depot duct booster fan.




Exhaust is directly above the hood at the highest point.



Here is the light intake, note that I covered the ceiling in plastic to act as a vapor/odor barrier. It significantly cut down on odor that had wafted through the house.



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Man u have some major equipment...that must have costed a small fortune....nice setup...as for preflowers.....its possible to see sex after a month from sprout...how are u gonna tell me...one of my boys had over 20 balls after a month in....the second had more a week later...and the third he took about a month and a half too show...nothing is out of the realm of possibility....

I know, what caused it? Wacky photo period? All my veg stuff is kept under 24 hrs light, I would think a dark heavy photo period 16/8 or something would prompt early flowering.

The equipment is not that expensive, the lighting system all said and done was about 420 from htg with grow bags and hangers and the thermometer. I cant stress enough that 400 bucks worth of light and 100 bucks worth of soil is all you need to grow 5 grand worth of pot in 2 months.

in two months???? thats crazy fast... im more patient with mine....my baby is 75 days old....with 24/0 of course the plant grows faster....but id rather give them a break....continious light might stess them...plus i dont like my lights on all the time... yours look great thought since you have good ventillation....how much was it for those vents??? did you do it???? i thought its good to do 18/6 for good root development.....plus you see sex early...like u said....

i love that veg room!! Nice setup. I really like how there are drains on the floor. Where thoe like that when you cam in or do you have to do that yourself? Awesome!

oh, was this a shower? like a shop shower? Very nice.

Water/Drain hookups in your grow room saves a LOT of headaches, Note the bare concrete floor sooooooo easy to keep clean compared to plastic.

aawesome macro shots, i expect to see some killer bud shots later on

hey speed with your 6in duct fan that you got from home depot, when you buy the fan does it have a plug in that goes into the wall or how do you power that thing up.

You wire them yourself, black white ground (green) I buy wire and plugs.... If you cant do that you need to step up to a pre wired (ie better) fans that are available or learn simple wiring, they are invaluable.

I think htgsupply has prewired duct booster fans.

Do you know any good places to start when wanting to learn basic wiring? I have a couple of things that just have a cord and the plug is cut off. I don't want to do any damage.

Go to the home depot, their main home improvement book (the orange one not plumbing or electrical or anything) is THE best grow book I ever had. Thought me to wire mains, frame walls, and plumbing. Just the lessons on working PVC is worth it for hydro people. HIGHLY recommended.

I see these at book sales 2nd hand all the time.

Been a while, not much to update. Flowering room is cooking away now, the widowcindys are in the closet vegg room again. Its worth noting that if you have a long narrow spot to vegg in (Ie a 10x2ft closet) those long 4ft t5s are a perfect size.








A random top


All looking pretty normal. I dont know about the presexing jazz everyone talks about...Iv been looking pretty hard and I still think these guys will wait till flowering to show me whats what.

Internodes, note the little undifferentiated nub on the last one





There we go, pretty boring at this stage..just letting them branch out a little. Still no nutrition added whatsoever.

Questions or Comments?

See this is what mine were looking like


Im thinkin that these are the females. The other 2 don;t look like they are showing, some of mine are like that too. Those look like seed pods not the seeds that males have. Im not 100percent and I think we will have to wait till flowering to really tell. Those just look like my bubba clones that I know are girls...

The thing is, I think thats just a premature sexual organ, until the plant is forced to sexual maturity with a 12/12 photo period we don't know what these are. They will show eventually but not in the time im going to give them. Its still balls for boys, 2 little pistils out of a sack for girls.

I feel like I can tell for sure as soon as anyone, and I dont seed my sensi so I figure Iv been catching em fast enough