Dynagro is under-rated as fuck

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joe macclennan

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homebrewer said:
.8EC is a little too hot, IMO, for any plant food for early on in veg. Try cutting it back to 0.6EC as I always get great leaf and branch growth with FP in veg. It grows plants with a more desirable structure than just 'grow' IME.
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I only run one big tray and rez. for veg. Since I only veg for 1-3 wks depending on clone size. Splitting trays and rez. would not be conducive to my op. I have to find a happy medium for both freshly xplanted clones and ones ready for flip. This is why I run this way. Besides, .8 ec minus my start ec of .1 is pretty close to what you are recommending and with levels of fp above 10-15% I was seeing strange/abnormal growth.

I have cut out the magpro entirely upon your advice and have noticed no difference at all. Thank you for this.
 
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skunkd0c

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weedemart said:
nice trolling but I'll answer. I don't choose my nutrients for the brands, picture or price, I choose the most cost-effective that have simillar requirement I need.First thing I check is the guarantee. I used optimum hydroponix, Advanced , canna and I was not doing bad but I didnt know at this time few things... obv you could buy any nutrients and do bad. the nutes are the tool, you are the grower. A good farmer with a good tool is more effective than another skilled producer with a poorer tool IMO. more knowledge of the need=more skilled and most skilled grower choose their nutes with attention. that say, if I could find better than dynagro at the same cost, I would buy it for sure.
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asking you to clarify your comment is trolling ?
were you unable to produce successful harvests with the other foods you mentioned ?

i am dubious when growers report that one brand of food is so much better than others
or they have had much more success with the current brand of food, for me it raises more questions than it gives answers

i wish you success with your growing whatever brand of nutes you choose

peace
 
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joe macclennan

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it's not that dg is so much better imo. It is how simple and economical it is to use. A little goes a long way, and yes it can produce some fantastic results.

The same fantastic results can also be reached with any brand if the grower takes the time to learn how to use it.
 
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foliage pro > grow in everything but mix of foliage pro and bloom > foliage pro. the main reason is foliage pro is too high in N and too poor in PK.
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so what is your typical hydro feed regimen with these?
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Even If I post my mix, it probly wont work for you , I'm in hydro and I do SOG, I customized my mix for own my purpose.My e.c vary from 450-750ppm. anyway theres my main line: Rooting(first week): foliage 2.75ml/gal + bloom 1ml/gal growth(1-2 week) 4ml/gal foliage 1.5ml/gal bloom bloom: bloom:2ml/gal with 1g/L of big bud. as additive I use GH calimagic(previously calmag+) , botanicare sweet, Bigbud dry AN, diamond nectar GH, dynagro protekt . I added bigbud for it's sulfur content and the K added.
 
Uncle Ben

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Jbone77 said:
So just FP, no protekt or bloom? FP alone would be my best bet?
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Homebrewer did a test, a journal. Hit the search feature to read his edited version. I believe he also uses Protekt with it.

You don't need bloom foods for the best production. That is another forum myth. Bloom foods will actually reduce your yields.

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Uncle Ben said:
Homebrewer did a test, a journal. Hit the search feature to read his edited version. I believe he also uses Protekt with it.

You don't need bloom foods for the best production. That is another forum myth. Bloom foods will actually reduce your yields.

UB
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Thank You Uncle Ben, i really appreciate the time youve taken to show us how useless bloom foods are. I posted a picture of a Purple Kush plant a few pages back that was grown with 4 ml DynaGro Grow with some Protekt to keep the PH above 5.2. The flavor and smell is much more intense than with a high P bloom food. It yielded 5.5 ounces off one plant in a 3 gallon pot. That is by far my lowest yielding plant. Most will get between 7 and 9 ounces. My old way was to feed with bloom and when the plant would yellow I would hit it with Foliage Pro to green it up.

The PH of Foliage Pro ends up a little higher than Grow. In my RO water 5 ml/gallon ends up @ 5.6, 4 ml @ 5.7, 3 ml @ 5.8. There is no need for Protekt with Foliage Pro, at least for me.

I am going to do a Foliage Pro only, no PH adjusted coco grow for the next couple of months and report back. My theory is that with the correct nutrient ratio I won't need CalMag. I see a lot of questions about DynaGro and coco. I will report back in Spring of 2014 with some data. I have used DynaGro bloom and Foliage Pro with calmag, botanicare line and H3ad Lucas in coco so I will have a good comparison.

I will still read these threads, but won't post until 2014 when I have something interesting to share. Hopefully I will show Foliage Pro to be the ultimate one part nutrient for coco!
 
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Good luck with that experiment! Sounds like a winner.

Since DG has all 16 essential elements, it should be an excellent fit for coco.

High P foods not only deprive the plant of much needed N, but also micros. That's why you're getting your yellowing.
 
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Jbone77

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I have read HBs threads and he suggested FP, I wanted to also get your suggestion because I have read other posts where you suggested FP+Bloom, sounds like FP is now the choice. I used DG a few years back but hadnt heard of FP at that time so I used grow+bloom, thats the extent of my experience with DG. My current rotation will be done in 4 weeks, i do untrained plants in 100% perlite hempys, sage-n-sour will be the plant, all in the same tent, foliage pro will be in 1 bucket, lucas in 1 bucket, OC+ in 1 bucket and my current line in the last. Iv never used FP or OC+ but they have both had good reviews so we shall see.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
You don't need bloom foods for the best production. That is another forum myth. Bloom foods will actually reduce your yields.

UB
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:eyesmoke:lollll only way to reduce your yield with bloom food is throwing all the countener in your res. forums myth?! its true you can do flower with grow nutrients but it's obv not the optimal feed. it's like if you were saying you can grow with t5 light... nutrients are not absolutely necessary in dirt... you can grow only organic if you want but you'll produce less... or pay more to produce same as nutrients. the trick imo is to pay for nutrients that profitable , if u pay 30$ to add 10% of dry weight, it Worth it... for example... I never used cannaboost but even if it work, I doubt it's profitable, it's probly break-even.
 
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Yeah I was hopin he would suggest FP+ bloom n protekt because thats what I was planning for 1 of my buckets, but he said Foliage pro so since I have enough micro n bloom il just do lucas n that one.
 
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weedemart said:
:eyesmoke:lollll only way to reduce your yield with bloom food is throwing all the countener in your res. forums myth?! its true you can do flower with grow nutrients but it's obv not the optimal feed. it's like if you were saying you can grow with t5 light... nutrients are not absolutely necessary in dirt... you can grow only organic if you want but you'll produce less... or pay more to produce same as nutrients. the trick imo is to pay for nutrients that profitable , if u pay 30$ to add 10% of dry weight, it Worth it... for example... I never used cannaboost but even if it work, I doubt it's profitable, it's probly break-even.
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He's talking about dirt which to some extent can be applied to hydro.
 
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