Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

urbanmedgrower

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homebrewer said:
I'd go with DG's foliage pro (or grow) from start to finish. The difference is minimal between the two, Grow possibly being more forgiving. Personally I use foliage pro.
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well I decided to research the great advice you have been giving on this post homebrewer... You are absolutely right in saying a higher N feeding in soil (buffer) is better then a bloom formula (by the way my plants have never been better 2 weeks into flower, green lush and very healthy) After some digging around I found this... http://www.css.cornell.edu/faculty/lehmann/publ/Lehmann et al., 2003, Leaching CABI book.pdf
long story short nitrate is easily leached because it shows little interaction with the negatively charged matrix of most soils, therefore is very mobile in soil. And in contrast phosphates are very immobile in most soils/soilless mediums.
So thanks again homebrewer.
 
homebrewer

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urbanmedgrower said:
well I decided to research the great advice you have been giving on this post homebrewer... You are absolutely right in saying a higher N feeding in soil (buffer) is better then a bloom formula (by the way my plants have never been better 2 weeks into flower, green lush and very healthy) After some digging around I found this... http://www.css.cornell.edu/faculty/lehmann/publ/Lehmann et al., 2003, Leaching CABI book.pdf
long story short nitrate is easily leached because it shows little interaction with the negatively charged matrix of most soils, therefore is very mobile in soil. And in contrast phosphates are very immobile in most soils/soilless mediums.
So thanks again homebrewer.
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Not only that, the phosphorus needs of our plants is actually quite low so feeding with a bloom formula over time will cause a buildup of P in our mediums. Usually buildups cause lockouts and changes in pH.

Good luck with your grow!
 
swedsteven

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Homebrewer do you no someone that did the jack321 mix vs dyna gro style

I use to be a dynagro fan grow + potasium sulfate in flowering and foliage alone in veg with very low ppm and big yield but i went for organic soil with almost same yield from dyna 2.2p to bio 1.8p a light and now im thinking of a side by side organic vs jack 321

Dynagro Taste is very good with potasium sulfate but without it not so good tasting bud
Organic taste more sweet and flavor .
Jack 321 have a lot off sulfur bud must taste good .and jack is cheap 3cent the mix a gallon heavy feeding 1000ppm so 2 gallon of solution at 500 ppm 1,5 cent gallon solution for veg
 
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Davidminer

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homebrewer said:
I'd go with DG's foliage pro (or grow) from start to finish. The difference is minimal between the two, Grow possibly being more forgiving. Personally I use foliage pro.
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Hello, so you are saying that you use dynagro foilage 9-3-6 for both flower and veg? Would this work for me if im growing in promix and using r.o water? Would i need to add something else?
 
homebrewer

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swedsteven said:
I use to be a dynagro fan grow + potasium sulfate in flowering and foliage alone in veg with very low ppm and big yield but i went for organic soil with almost same yield from dyna 2.2p to bio 1.8p a light and now im thinking of a side by side organic vs jack 321
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I did a side by side with a plant grown with DG foliage pro and a plant grown in homemade compost and fed lightly with DG. No one could tell the difference. The plant grown in compost *may* have been a touch frostier? It was hard to tell.

Dynagro Taste is very good with potasium sulfate but without it not so good tasting bud
Organic taste more sweet and flavor .
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If your DG flowers tasted bad, you screwed something up. If your flowers tasted bad with ANY plant food sold in a hydro shop, you screwed something up. Folks who go organic just want to do things in a different way. It's their choice, to each their own. My outdoor garden is mostly organic because that's the easiest way to grow outside for me. Indoors i'd much rather use bottles. Heck, organic bottles would be great if anyone could tell a difference.
 
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Hey @homebrewer ,
I'm using strictly Foilage Pro in soil. (1/4 tsp per gal in veg, 1/2 in flower)
My tap water is about 280ppm.
I'm cutting it with 50% RO water. (I assume it drops it to 140ppm)
Do you think it will work good or should I use 100% RO?

I don't have a PPM meter and it's over my head trying to understand PPMs.

Thanks
 
70's natureboy

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Since this thread is still kickn' I'll jump in. I went away from Dynagrow for a couple crops and now have some Dynagrow plants going again. The DG's are kicking ass over Florabloom and Megacrop on my indicas. Very noticeable lush growth. With my sativas the diff isn't as noticeable but......I have one sour diesel growing in FP and it is the only one making a donkey dick cola. My Diesels don't usually make a donkey dick cola just lots of nice golf ball size buds. I do get a little claw with FP on my Diesels which is why I keep trying different stuff (sensitive bitches). I think next time I will use FP for 8 weeks of flower then switch to Floranova the last couple weeks to keep the claw away. Maybe I will switch to DG grow the last 2 weeks, not sure. I only use 3-5 ml/gal of FP. I started using DG because of this thread. Thanks HB.
 
homebrewer

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SimpleBox said:
Hey @homebrewer ,
I'm using strictly Foilage Pro in soil. (1/4 tsp per gal in veg, 1/2 in flower)
My tap water is about 280ppm.
I'm cutting it with 50% RO water. (I assume it drops it to 140ppm)
Do you think it will work good or should I use 100% RO?

I don't have a PPM meter and it's over my head trying to understand PPMs.

Thanks
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I think what you're doing now should work perfectly.
 
homebrewer

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70's natureboy said:
Since this thread is still kickn' I'll jump in. I went away from Dynagrow for a couple crops and now have some Dynagrow plants going again. The DG's are kicking ass over Florabloom and Megacrop on my indicas. Very noticeable lush growth. With my sativas the diff isn't as noticeable but......I have one sour diesel growing in FP and it is the only one making a donkey dick cola. My Diesels don't usually make a donkey dick cola just lots of nice golf ball size buds. I do get a little claw with FP on my Diesels which is why I keep trying different stuff (sensitive bitches). I think next time I will use FP for 8 weeks of flower then switch to Floranova the last couple weeks to keep the claw away. Maybe I will switch to DG grow the last 2 weeks, not sure. I only use 3-5 ml/gal of FP. I started using DG because of this thread. Thanks HB.
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The most FP I'd use in peat during flower is 1/2 tsp/gal. That may explain your claw issue? I actually notice the benefits of FP's 9-3-6 more on my 100+ day strains that the ones that only go 65. But low and slow is how I approach feeding these plants and they seem to love that.
 
Herz420

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Hey homebrewer i just read your comparision grow here. I have some questions. I only did two grows in coco but i always had problems from the beginning. I start my seeds in coco jiffy pellets, after the seedling show his head and the roots coming out of the jiffy i transplant into 1L coco pot and start to feed at 0.4ec, i use osmosis water and i use advanced nutrients coco. Last grow i used canna coco and had the same problems. Is the ec of 0.4 too high for the seedlings? The plants didnt grow after the transplant into the 1l coco pot same with my first grow in coco. The plants in soil were growing faster i bought the Advanced nutrients because i thought its a ph problem.. Ph stays stable with osmosis water but the problems with this fertilizer didnt go away so im doing something wrong and after i read your article here how low you are feeding your plants i thought the 0.4 ec is maybe too high for the seedlings. Should i try 0.1-0.2ec?
I also want to feed so low in my first grow i used the Advanced nutrients calculator and the ec is very high in veg at 1.6ec in flower up to 2.0ec and the last grow the weed tasted like shit hope you can help me with my seedlings problem and i would try the dyna gro fertilizers but i cant get them over here only canna, advanced nutrients, ghe, plagron and advanced hydroponics and sorry for the bad english
 
homebrewer

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Herz420 said:
Hey homebrewer i just read your comparision grow here. I have some questions. I only did two grows in coco but i always had problems from the beginning. I start my seeds in coco jiffy pellets, after the seedling show his head and the roots coming out of the jiffy i transplant into 1L coco pot and start to feed at 0.4ec, i use osmosis water and i use advanced nutrients coco. Last grow i used canna coco and had the same problems. Is the ec of 0.4 too high for the seedlings? The plants didnt grow after the transplant into the 1l coco pot same with my first grow in coco. The plants in soil were growing faster i bought the Advanced nutrients because i thought its a ph problem.. Ph stays stable with osmosis water but the problems with this fertilizer didnt go away so im doing something wrong and after i read your article here how low you are feeding your plants i thought the 0.4 ec is maybe too high for the seedlings. Should i try 0.1-0.2ec?
I also want to feed so low in my first grow i used the Advanced nutrients calculator and the ec is very high in veg at 1.6ec in flower up to 2.0ec and the last grow the weed tasted like shit hope you can help me with my seedlings problem and i would try the dyna gro fertilizers but i cant get them over here only canna, advanced nutrients, ghe, plagron and advanced hydroponics and sorry for the bad english
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You can get away with feeding seedlings just water. Once you see the first true leaves or the formation of that second node you can start feeding something, 0.4 EC is probably is high as you'd want to go. If you're in 1L pots then 0.2 EC should be plenty unless your plants tell you otherwise.
 
littleflavio

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And here i am back at it again...been awhile since i start growing any plants again. Im planning to go multi system this time. Kranky, aquaponics, hydro and fog. Any suggestions if i should go with advanced nutrients or fox farms?
 
homebrewer

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littleflavio said:
And here i am back at it again...been awhile since i start growing any plants again. Im planning to go multi system this time. Kranky, aquaponics, hydro and fog. Any suggestions if i should go with advanced nutrients or fox farms?
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AN for sure and I'd suggest their grand master line. Don't skimp, buy every bottle and pay full price. Make sure it's from an authorized dealer. If you leave out even one bottle, your plants will know it. Good luck.
 
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