Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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Jason9922
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The only thing I've done that's made a difference for me is to use microbial teas to keep all those problems at bay. I've been mixing a tea using the following ingredients one cup of Ancient forest soil amendment, two cups of earthworm castings, 1/2 teaspoon of ZHO powdered microbes, 1/2 teaspoon of Great White, 100 ml of Hydroguard, and 25mL of liquid carbo load or molasses per 24 hours of planned brew time. All dry stuff I put in a double wrapped nylon and then fish a small air stone into the middle of it, then tie it into a knot & drop it into a 5 gallon bucket filled with 3 gallons of distilled water and turn on the air pump. After bubbling with the one air stone inside the knot and three more small airstones in the bucket for 48 hours I strain and separate solids using cheesecloth putting tea into clean empty gallon jugs. It keeps for 10 days in the fridge. I add three cups for every ten gallons of water in a clean res change or 1 cup per ten gallons every third day to replenish the microbial army that keeps all the root rot and algae out of my water. Between the DG nutes and using the microbe tea, no light on water using net pot lids, I've yet to get any algae or root rot yet. White fiber filled roots and happy healthy plants!
So thanks again HB for all the info you've given. I know of three other people that use the DG method now after seeing my results!
Carolina Dream'n
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Why you yelling?
rory420420
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Mycogrow..6$ an oz,everything great white,zho,and hydroguard have all together,in one package for a tenth of the price
Don't look at the pretty labels,READ them
Don't look at the pretty labels,READ them
homebrewer
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I tried ceramic halides and while I liked them they seemed to lose their kick after about 6 months. This is just an anecdotal observation. In regards to electricity, it was a 330watt CMH so there of course was a savings over the 400MH I was previously using but I certainly never noticed a difference in any utility bills after switching.
Jason9922
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Oh ok well thanks for the quick reply. I was just reading about someone else who was just talking them up saying they were the future and going to replace HID's etc etc. So I wanted a no bs answer & seen he mentioned you. I'm still waiting for the LED lights that grow as well as an HID and are priced similarly. Have seen a few grows where people had multiple panel MARS brand LED lights, one dudes had a veg / bloom switch & a small grouping of UV bulbs that works well but is so expensive I won't be able to get one anytime soon. Thinking about experimenting with some tanning lights set to kick on for only like 8 minutes every hour during light cycle. An elder told me it could make a huge difference during bloom. Something to think about I guess. I'm pretty close to finishing a design on a plant dolly oscillator that rotates the whole pot 1 full turn. Just something else I was tinkering with.
Jason9922
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Really? The guys at the hydro store told me that stuff was all one type of beneficial microbe and the reason my tea worked so well was because of all the different types of microbes. All 4 of them including the owner who's cool enough to allow his regulars to have a credit limit & never pushes expensive stuff told me that about Mycogrow. Have to look into that more. All the stuff I use for that tea is used in small amounts and lasts quite a while so it's not a big cost. Only the great white is pricey and from what I've read on many forums it's the best. Not by much but I've never heard anyone else say that about Mycogrow so I'll look into it a little more before I buy anymore beneficial microbial compounds.Mycogrow..6$ an oz,everything great white,zho,and hydroguard have all together,in one package for a tenth of the price
Don't look at the pretty labels,READ them
Jason9922
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Sorry I forgot to mention that I run hydro to. I guess Great White is one of the few that works in hydro I just read, but like I said, I just read on a post in here. In same post guys saying that Myco's Pumpkin something is the bomb but doesn't work well in dro. Idk once all my stuffs gone I'm always open to saving $. That's the whole reason I switched to DG. Best move I've made so far as to saving money. Besides the DG, microbe Tea to keep them roots hairy white fuzzy all the time, little GH Floralicious for flav. oh and the fact that I have been using two 9' diffusers in my res has seemed to keep the ladies happy. That and cooling my inline 1200 GPH water pump and air pump to same temp as room letting me need no chiller. Never worry about root rot again.. (yeah I can dream, LOL)Mycogrow..6$ an oz,everything great white,zho,and hydroguard have all together,in one package for a tenth of the price
Don't look at the pretty labels,READ them
rory420420
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Some guy at a hydro store told you to not to buy cheaper/in expensive items!!??!! You don't say??...I DONT BELIEVE YOU!!!
Jason9922
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Yes, the guy is honest with me & as I said he has never pushed anything on me & helps everyone to grow cheap. And I confirmed today at the hydro store, where it was confirmed that Mycos is one single strain compared to the many in my tea & the theory is the one is better but there is no proof of this ( says the Mycos sales rep I spoke with ) so I'll check it out when my stuffs gone but its nothing special, one person has been hyping it that I've found in any forum. Everyone else I've spoke with uses a tea. So I'll stick with using a variety and you stick with using what you use.Some guy at a hydro store told you to not to buy cheaper/in expensive items!!??!! You don't say??...I DONT BELIEVE YOU!!!
rory420420
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Read the packages..
rory420420
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It also was a suggestion..not a demand..some people don't feel they're getting a deal without a special package to show their friends...to each their own...
I've read the packages.the simple one isn't pretty,but out preforms..and def has more.
Happy growing.
I've read the packages.the simple one isn't pretty,but out preforms..and def has more.
Happy growing.
Jason9922
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I did read them. If you think Mycos which only has endo / ecto myco's compared to the tea I described Great White (alone has trichomedera and much more bacteria than mykos), ZHO, earthworm castings & ancient forrest don't even need to list what beneficial stuff they add because the Great White alone has more. If Mykos beats all that then I guess your right and all the people using beneficial microbial teas give it up to them. Surprised people aren't raving about it.
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Jason9922
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BTW, I'm in a Dyna Gro smokes AN thread, pretty package etc don't apply here. I grew bud that was a little less as good using Jacks for years. I only use those few "pretty packaged products" because it creates an environment where I can have a 70 gallon recirculating system with no chiller needed. I'm happy saving the $ not needing a chiller or the power it uses or the heat it creates. So honestly man I'm probably making out way cheaper than most hydro growers who use chillers. But I'm still going to check out the Mykos, dude gave me 3 of the "bars" to try because the Mykos sales rep sent them a load of samples. I'll probably end up throwing some in the next batch of tea just for the hell of it.
Theophilus
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Are you now using a small amount of pH up to get you where you would normally be when you were adding the higher dosage of Protekt?
kubalibre53
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hb thanks for the great info what ratio gro & bloom do you mix per gal. o ro water to get the 1-3-2 ratio thanx bro,im growin serious ak-47 in gh water fams I will be switchin to dyna in about 2 weeks at start of new grow thanx again
kubalibre53
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hb thanks for the great info what ratio gro & bloom do you mix per gal. o ro water to get the 1-3-2 ratio thanx bro,im growin serious ak-47 in gh water fams I will be switchin to dyna in about 2 weeks at start of new grow thanx again
homebrewer
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Try 1/3 grow, 2/3rds bloom. As long as your feeding levels aren't sky high, that ratio should work great.
kubalibre53
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will I need cal mag with that 1/3 grow 2/3 bloom ratio.anything else I should add,thanx bro!!