Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

RogueToker

Member
I just finished reading this thread from page 1 to 50 and feel like I've learned a lot (thanks homebrew). I just recently bought the AN Sensi line along with some of their supplements, which I know aren't as expensive as the AN line you used in this comparison. Considering the price difference, would you say the Sensi 2 part line is still completely overpriced compared to Dyna-Gro?
 

medicolas

Active Member
Nice! Thank you very much for that! I just did a side by side on Big Bud vs. Awesome Blossom and found no measurable difference. Maybe if you used AN full line up it might make a small difference, but what would the cost difference be then? Good lord those guy's are on crack in Canada!

This leaves me with no other choice but to say Fuck Big Mike Stromentus!
please sing along with me.....

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Can... a... da.......
They're not even a real country any way!
 

jdmcwestevo

Well-Known Member
Nice! Thank you very much for that! I just did a side by side on Big Bud vs. Awesome Blossom and found no measurable difference. Maybe if you used AN full line up it might make a small difference, but what would the cost difference be then? Good lord those guy's are on crack in Canada!

This leaves me with no other choice but to say Fuck Big Mike Stromentus!
please sing along with me.....

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Can... a... da.......
They're not even a real country any way!
so amazing :)
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
I just finished reading this thread from page 1 to 50 and feel like I've learned a lot (thanks homebrew). I just recently bought the AN Sensi line along with some of their supplements, which I know aren't as expensive as the AN line you used in this comparison. Considering the price difference, would you say the Sensi 2 part line is still completely overpriced compared to Dyna-Gro?
The sensi line is about $60 each according to amazon which isn't much more than I pay for DG locally. The sensi line is still giving you the same NPK ratio as Connoisseur so you can probably expect the same performance out of it, which is just ok. If someone held a gun to my head and made me buy AN base nutes, I'd go with their 3-part that they copied off of GH. At least there you can achieve something like a 1-2-2 NPK ratio just with base nutes alone. Add a touch of hydroplex or magpro which both match up well with the base nute NPK and your yields should only improve.

I'm really not as frugal as I come across on here with the cost of fertilizers. I just prefer to be sold on a fertilizer by it's performance, not what the marketing department comes up with.



medicolas
Nice! Thank you very much for that! I just did a side by side on Big Bud vs. Awesome Blossom and found no measurable difference. Maybe if you used AN full line up it might make a small difference, but what would the cost difference be then?
Feeding is a balancing act. I could have used their full lineup but after base nutes and the 'boosters' I was using, there is no room for anything else. AN is just giving it's users a less than ideal starting point which I don't think can be corrected by any amount of boosters.
 

RogueToker

Member
The sensi line is about $60 each according to amazon which isn't much more than I pay for DG locally. The sensi line is still giving you the same NPK ratio as Connoisseur so you can probably expect the same performance out of it, which is just ok. If someone held a gun to my head and made me buy AN base nutes, I'd go with their 3-part that they copied off of GH. At least there you can achieve something like a 1-2-2 NPK ratio just with base nutes alone. Add a touch of hydroplex or magpro which both match up well with the base nute NPK and your yields should only improve.

I'm really not as frugal as I come across on here with the cost of fertilizers. I just prefer to be sold on a fertilizer by it's performance, not what the marketing department comes up with.



Feeding is a balancing act. I could have used their full lineup but after base nutes and the 'boosters' I was using, there is no room for anything else. AN is just giving it's users a less than ideal starting point which I don't think can be corrected by any amount of boosters.
Unfortunately, I just don't have the money to ditch the AN bottles that I just bought. However, as soon as these run out, you have without a doubt convinced me to switch to DG. They should be cutting you a check man.
 

lunchbox421

Active Member
Yea I'm gonna keep an eye on this new run. 1 table sog in hydroton with just dg and drip clean. Then I'm giving sunshine #4 a run for the rest where I'm going dg half and then the other half I'll use the rest of the h&g I have. The h&g treated me good with last run which was in all coco. Their base is about the same as dg, price wise, but they don't tell you what all in it. Most of their additives don't add much ppms except for their algen extract and top booster/shooting powder which is similar to kool bloom. I like the liquid karma as well, it does add that organic-ish aspect. Always use it once my clones start rooting then slowly add regular veg nutes.

What's your experience with sushine, or promix, and dg? Do you amend your soil with anything? You notice any salt build up on topsoil? I know the shots you took of your soil ladies look phenomenal but I'm just curious if there are any differences between pbp from a week to week standpoint. I do use drip clean with everything now a days as a safe guard against build up, especially my moms. Not sure if you've read up on it but I think it does what it says it's supposed to. The salt build up I used to get after a few months isn't there anymore. It's got a 0-18.7-6.1 ratio and you use .1ml per liter. From what I've read is that they removed a molecule from the phosphorous and potassium compounds so as it passes through the medium and root mass it attracts molecules to fill the void.

Thanks again. Take care and be safe!
 
Thank you so much for doing this, just prior to catching this thread and making my first post on this forum I was on the fence and now a couple weeks into dyna gro, protek and recently picked up some cal/mag, still cutting my teeth and learning so much and with this being second grow outdoors I am already expecting dramatic results this time around. I constructed darkening area last week due to I have a street light/HOA which did not give me main colas last year and have been doing quite a bit of undercleaning to put more energy into tops this year. Last year did not top, this year did, many changes this year and this thread helped me immensely, thank you so much HB for your work, I am a couple months out being outdoor so I will have to be patient to see how much all of my changes made but they would been much more confusing if not for re-reading the entire thread. I hope you continue to post and share what I believe to be honest, unbiased, very thorough information.
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
What's your experience with sushine, or promix, and dg? Do you amend your soil with anything? You notice any salt build up on topsoil? I know the shots you took of your soil ladies look phenomenal but I'm just curious if there are any differences between pbp from a week to week standpoint. I do use drip clean with everything now a days as a safe guard against build up, especially my moms. Not sure if you've read up on it but I think it does what it says it's supposed to. The salt build up I used to get after a few months isn't there anymore. It's got a 0-18.7-6.1 ratio and you use .1ml per liter. From what I've read is that they removed a molecule from the phosphorous and potassium compounds so as it passes through the medium and root mass it attracts molecules to fill the void.

Thanks again. Take care and be safe!
DG and promix/sunshine mix is super easy. At proper feeding levels, salt buildup isn't an issue and I usually use some vermiculite to even out the texture of the dirt. PureBlend worked fine, it was reasonably priced with decent concentration levels. I did notice some salt buildup around the holes at the bottom of my pots and I don't see that with DG. I don't think the salt buildup with pure blend was an issue when i was feeding properly but I just got better results with less work with DG. I gave my pure blend base nutes away.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I hate that nobody in my state carrys dyno-gro :( they will order it but thats the case everytime I would want it.
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
I hate that nobody in my state carrys dyno-gro :( they will order it but thats the case everytime I would want it.
I have 3 shops near me and out of the two that I go to, only one shop carries the DG grow and bloom. I actually avoid that shop and have one of their competitors order the DG bottles that I need. Funny though, they seem to carry every other base and additive ever invented but wont stock DynaGro :???:.
 

fallinprince

Active Member
Where i live i could visit 6 stores within 10 miles and only one stocks dyna-gro and tbh its brand new before they opened while they were setting up. i told the owner he better stock it and he responded with "thats what i use. Why wouldnt I?" i decided that was probably the store i wanted to go to from then on. competitive prices too
 

Malus420

Active Member
Excellent thread here mate, very nicely done and good to see that all the hype about AN is what I've always suspected, just good marketing!

I have 3 shops near me and out of the two that I go to, only one shop carries the DG grow and bloom. I actually avoid that shop and have one of their competitors order the DG bottles that I need. Funny though, they seem to carry every other base and additive ever invented but wont stock DynaGro :???:.
I saw your location, is it real Santorini? If yes, wow, 3 shops in Santorini and I was only able to dig out one in Athens and that was just decent with very limited range of products... Anyway, just being curious, I live in Spain now so that isn't an issue but all my mates back in Greece that are into the same "sport" could use some decent shops... ;) The only nut lines I could find locally in Athens were Atami, Biobizz, GH and Earth Juice...
 

Izoc666

Well-Known Member
hey homebrewer your thread is rock about DG vs AD, i wanna say good job with test, sir ! at my three hydro stores in my local, they keep highly recommend me to buy the AN stuff...i was like hell no because no way i can afford those mutli bottless for ridicilous price i was thinking about buy trio of foxfarm fertilizers but i decided to research in here first before i buy...i ve already got GH flora bloom for my non cannabis plant and it works beautiful but im planning to use it on my hempie plant to see...so after i saw your thread...so definietly DG is best to get one...i went to those, they dont sell DG man...finally i found a small hydro store for reasonable price....i wanna say thank you for sharing information with us !
 

mr.smileyface

Well-Known Member
Nice! Thank you very much for that! I just did a side by side on Big Bud vs. Awesome Blossom and found no measurable difference. Maybe if you used AN full line up it might make a small difference, but what would the cost difference be then? Good lord those guy's are on crack in Canada!

This leaves me with no other choice but to say Fuck Big Mike Stromentus!
please sing along with me.....

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Can... a... da.......
They're not even a real country any way!
You cant say shit about canada. Look whos dollar is stronger. Not to mention we have a tremendous amount of girls and we dont go to jail for growing. We have the most land per person and the strongest beer.
You guys have checkers and jack in the box. very light beer and over populated cities. Your economy is very weak.
Ill give it to you that you are army strong.
Cali and here (BritishColumbia) are the only places i would want to live
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
Thread owner's screen name is Homebrewer. He's a hobbyist beer maker. I was just amused by the unlikelihood of there being such a person on Santorini, but who knows? Just a stoner moment. HB???

what are you on about here mate? got me lost a little :p
 
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