Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

I will also note... I will be switching to DG is near future, once I run out of my FoxFarm nutes for future grows, very pleased with what I have read about it and peoples uses.

Grizdouche is probably on HB's ignore list.

burrr said:

I've often wondered if the silica we add to our plants could be harming the final user. I'm leaning toward probably not, but found this article that suggests it could be a cancer hazard. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2001/02/23/246895.htm

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Burr- Good article- some stuff I never read before. What I got out of it is that silica is good for your plants, but causes them to make particles that can be bad for us. Wouldn't woory too much though. To put it into perspective- all the natural soil grown plants in the world for millenia have been grown with silica. Kinda gets you thinking though- doesn't it?

maphisto said:

@ Grizzdude got pics of your grow? whats your nute formula like?what are you pulling down every harvest?why do you flush, is it because you over feed your plants to the point they are fried? you shouldnt come over to this thread the way you did.you should of thanked the man for his time and efforts at least he wants to help.

@ Trichy hope ya found a good nute schedule.If ya notice hb has not been around that much like his other threads, i bet it's because of people like Grizzdude that come off all wierd.he is gonna kill it for people like you and i who want that lb per 600 watt

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Agreed on both points!- thanks...

burrr said:

Grizdouche is probably on HB's ignore list.

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He actually is on my ignore list . He got butthurt a while ago in the thread below and likes to hold grudges I guess.

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/353188-proper-flushing-how-long.html



My aplogies for missing the weekly update last week. I changed the res on the normal day and was out of town all weekend. I believe the harvest date is this week so I'll post some final pics of the plants and we'll start wrapping this shiz up.

i will say i know about flushing and tested this many times. if u over feed ur plants and add unneeded stuff u need to flush, if u feed ur plants right and give them what they want when they want u dont need to flush. its that simple ive tried this many times and their both the same with clean white ash, if u get black ash they u added too much stuff. if ur adding some crazy 5-50-36NPK booster then u just over feed ur plants big time and should flush for sure.ive done it all and including pure organics and i know this is the truth for sure because ive smoked it all on my own personal grows.

irishboy said:

i will say i know about flushing and tested this many times. if u over feed ur plants and add unneeded stuff u need to flush, if u feed ur plants right and give them what they want when they want u dont need to flush. its that simple ive tried this many times and their both the same with clean white ash, if u get black ash they u added too much stuff. if ur adding some crazy 5-50-36NPK booster then u just over feed ur plants big time and should flush for sure.ive done it all and including pure organics and i know this is the truth for sure because ive smoked it all on my own personal grows.

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a friend of mines dad uses 10-30-20 peters aka tecnigro. from start to finish of 12/12 and flushes 6 times at the end. His weed burns black still. He feeds the same strength threw out the cycle. He has to use a flushing solution or his weed will always burn like that. Its because of the Ammonium nitrate in the fert. In most liquid forms of ferts, they use nitrates that can be flushed out and burnt off in the enviorment quikly. But still he wont switch cause it works for him. He spends 100 a year for a 6 kw grow. Old school. Btw the way his plants dont show signs of overfeeding. That fert is just hard to flush out. So in some cases flushing is nessisary. If you have a food with a low N (nitrate)percent then u might not need to flush depending on how much your plant is eating. I flush for one week. It takes a while for the food to get used. So why waste nutrients. Everyones grow is differnt. So if your ash is black u might want to change something.

irishboy said:

thanks bro, those nugs were grown last year in 105F temps with $10 nutes from homedepot.lol. my last grow ur talking a few months back was a 100% organic grow, witch turned out insane quality. i will no longer had chemical bloom boosters and will always have seaweed and guano's instead.

as of right now i have been feeding 5ml per gal, silica is a must since i am dealing with very high temps, witch i think i can pull off, i mean my room has been 110F and my plants are sexy looking but i am not running HID and dont have radiant heat beaming down on my girl.

thanks my friend

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Thats your problem. 5ml a gallon in sunshine mix is crazy. Even if you cycle water,food,water. Try 2ml a gallon.
There is no way it would stop your plants from flowering.
5 ml a gallon is for hydro.

mr.smileyface said:

Thats your problem. 5ml a gallon in sunshine mix is crazy. Even if you cycle water,food,water. Try 2ml a gallon.
There is no way it would stop your plants from flowering.
5 ml a gallon is for hydro.

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SS#4 is hydro just like coco is hydro so i figured 5ml would be best?

mr.smileyface said:

a friend of mines dad uses 10-30-20 peters aka tecnigro. from start to finish of 12/12 and flushes 6 times at the end. His weed burns black still. He feeds the same strength threw out the cycle. He has to use a flushing solution or his weed will always burn like that. Its because of the Ammonium nitrate in the fert. In most liquid forms of ferts, they use nitrates that can be flushed out and burnt off in the enviorment quikly. But still he wont switch cause it works for him. He spends 100 a year for a 6 kw grow. Old school. Btw the way his plants dont show signs of overfeeding. That fert is just hard to flush out. So in some cases flushing is nessisary. If you have a food with a low N (nitrate)percent then u might not need to flush depending on how much your plant is eating. I flush for one week. It takes a while for the food to get used. So why waste nutrients. Everyones grow is differnt. So if your ash is black u might want to change something.

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IDK used the same ferts ive feed heavy and ash was black ive fed less and ash was white. my point is allot of growers over feed too much.

I run in pro mix and use 5mls/gal......

mr.smileyface said:

a friend of mines dad uses 10-30-20 peters aka tecnigro. from start to finish of 12/12 and flushes 6 times at the end. His weed burns black still. He feeds the same strength threw out the cycle. He has to use a flushing solution or his weed will always burn like that. Its because of the Ammonium nitrate in the fert. In most liquid forms of ferts, they use nitrates that can be flushed out and burnt off in the enviorment quikly. But still he wont switch cause it works for him. He spends 100 a year for a 6 kw grow. Old school. Btw the way his plants dont show signs of overfeeding. That fert is just hard to flush out. So in some cases flushing is nessisary. If you have a food with a low N (nitrate)percent then u might not need to flush depending on how much your plant is eating. I flush for one week. It takes a while for the food to get used. So why waste nutrients. Everyones grow is differnt. So if your ash is black u might want to change something.

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Strange, I don't understand much about judging the color of the ash- guess I'll have to read up on the theory...

Trichy Bastard said:

Strange, I don't understand much about judging the color of the ash- guess I'll have to read up on the theory...

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It's more BS stoner belief than anything else. I think white ash means something desirable like the plant was 'finished properly' and darker ash means the opposite. The wood in my fireplace burns to white ash, can anyone make any sense of that?

irishboy said:

IDK used the same ferts ive feed heavy and ash was black ive fed less and ash was white. my point is allot of growers over feed too much.

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Yea. ive overfed and didnt flush once and it was my first grow. the weed didnt burn right and was far from smooth and guess what it burnt black. Now im the less is more guy. But i still read my plants. ive been doing the same strain for a while. im a water feed water kind of guy. But depends on how often i would have to water.
i guess thats from overfeeding. Depends on how long you give the plants to work it off.
That what the clearing solution is made for right?

homebrewer said:

It's more BS stoner belief than anything else. I think white ash means something desirable like the plant was 'finished properly' and darker ash means the opposite. The wood in my fireplace burns to white ash, can anyone make any sense of that?

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We should all be smoking wood?

homebrewer said:

It's more BS stoner belief than anything else. I think white ash means something desirable like the plant was 'finished properly' and darker ash means the opposite. The wood in my fireplace burns to white ash, can anyone make any sense of that?

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Yeah- I would assume black means the substances haven't finished burning- I'm sure any ash will whiten as you burn it wholly. Just a guess. Sounds more like a wives tale to me...

Here's something I found that sounds pretty reasonable to me- I'm curious what others thinK?

see Post#7
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/9-patients-forum/7092-black-ash-vs-gray-ash.html

in response to that long ASS post that i jumped some paragraphs i would like to say. SO Homebrewer whats your curing process again?

tbh burning white vs burning blackish imo. you want black

if you have ever made a batch of black finger hash you would realize its actually a very dark green.

the medicine that burns white usually has a short lasting buzz and was a very stemmed leafy substance. Which keeps in line with HB saying wood burns white and we dont want to be smoking wood do we?

really nice resinous bud should make what i fondly call "dark matter" ((named after a pipe i had that used to make these stupid gooey balls of resin)). due to its sticky gets on everything and a bitch to remove nature

fallinprince said:

in response to that long ASS post that i jumped some paragraphs i would like to say. SO Homebrewer whats your curing process again?

tbh burning white vs burning blackish imo. you want black

if you have ever made a batch of black finger hash you would realize its actually a very dark green.

the medicine that burns white usually has a short lasting buzz and was a very stemmed leafy substance. Which keeps in line with HB saying wood burns white and we dont want to be smoking wood do we?

really nice resinous bud should make what i fondly call "dark matter" ((named after a pipe i had that used to make these stupid gooey balls of resin)). due to its sticky gets on everything and a bitch to remove nature

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Which post fallinprince?

Guys, I kindly ask that we put an end to the 'color of the ash' conversation. If you'd like to discuss further, please do so elsewhere as I do not think this topic deserves any attention at all.

SO Homebrewer whats your curing process again?

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I just hang the buds until they're dry to the touch. They're then trimmed off the branches and placed in bags for about 24 hours. After a day, they're usually wet again at which point i'll lay the bud out for 12-24 hours or until drier to the touch. They're then 'sweat' again in bags but it may take several days for the bud to become moist. Repeat.

Over the years, the one thing that I've found with curing is that you just don't want to dry the bud too fast. I believe it's important to be able to have that first 'sweat' to sort of lock in that aroma, but other than that, what works best is really up to the grower. I personally think the 'long cures means higher potency' idea is more of a function of moisture content within the bud than something 'curing' is actually accomplishing. Even the crispy, brittle bud that dried out too fast because you were busy with other things in life is still very potent. Just a little harsh.