DIY-HP-LED
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Cody I'm tired and don't want to do this in public, tomorrow perhaps, think a bit first
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DIY-HP-LED
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Sorry cody I fucked up a bit tired and not as mindful as I should be. PM me tomorrow.
Too many balls in the air at once I guess.
codster25
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Same here man and I’m admitting that now. Have a good night man and i know you mean well and maybe my ego is taking it to far but still can’t help but think hate is hate. Lots of it these days too.
DIY-HP-LED
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I'm gonna make a new thread here for mindfulness and moral topics to be discussed and will copy most of the preamble and teaching to there. I'll leave everything here at the top of the thread to point the unfortunate too as you should, tell them to start ant the top to the thread until her..
The purpose of this thread is moral discussion, I'd like to confine it to current events and posts. You send them to the top of the thread by copying the url in your browser and copying it to the opposition in discussion and tell them to start at the top and see if they go the guts to get here, simple enough to do.
Also if you see any text on this thread you would like to use on this site, don't bother with attribution just copy paste for good purposes only and yer here to learn about that. he difference between right and wrong.
The purpose of this thread is moral discussion, I'd like to confine it to current events and posts. You send them to the top of the thread by copying the url in your browser and copying it to the opposition in discussion and tell them to start at the top and see if they go the guts to get here, simple enough to do.
Also if you see any text on this thread you would like to use on this site, don't bother with attribution just copy paste for good purposes only and yer here to learn about that. he difference between right and wrong.
DIY-HP-LED
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Peace Brother
codster25
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DIY I was only intending to speak in regards to ethics and morality in today’s political landscape, as requested in your thread. I wasn’t advocating for trump, Hillary, or any of them. I’m simply pointing out the irony of this. Regardless of who or what we are speaking of, our words can still incite violence and emotional suffering. No need for pm, I feel I’m being straight forward.
DIY-HP-LED
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More thoughts.
This thread and my activities here are also experimental too, or more correctly observational. How can I best teach my message here that so regular people can go a long way in training these days, if they are not tormented by their conscience and reconciling there beliefs about things. Buddhism and science for instance and modern values versus traditional ones. Much of what you read in Buddhism, the real message is how to get along with others and with in our selves, mindfulness. Anybody who is a serious student of the path like I was/am is directed to Buddhism after the 8 week evidence based course, if ya wanna be tortured by a 2500 year old rule book. But they are the true masters of the practice and know every trick imaginable, worth looking into, because it is not a dogmatic belief system, it is open and the attitude is prove it to me, as here.
These studies, I hope will result in something compact and portable a simple set of tools for winning moral and ethical arguments with those we love most, family and friends, this is a purpose too, but they all come from the same intention, the benefit of others and putting your family friends and tribe first. If yer bad enough ya get ostracized to prison, instead of dying alone and heart broken in the wilderness, where nobody loves you, we call this feeling being being alone, sad people feel it the most. If ya thought the big chief might run yer ass out , ya worried like Donald is now, cause at some level, he knows he fucked up and is very concerned now, ya can see em twitching. Getting rid of a bad chief back then was an issue too, most often someone just did the fucker in to protect those they loved, they to put others first too.
Think of the poor judge(s) who will have to order Donald tied to a chair squirming and ball gag him as he is swept up in delusional rage with his eyeballs bugged out. I got more sympathy for the judge, than Donald, and the officials and guards at the supermax too.
The again he could just jump on AF1 and run to Russia, if they don't impeach him first, wonder if he'll make a run for it during the trial. I mean Vlad is his friend and should look out for him right? The do love each other right like friends, Vlad does peak excellent English, KGB trained. He wouldn't betray Donald after he lands and is powerless would he? I mean Vlad owes Donald at least that much for all that he has done for him right? Think Vlad would betray his buddy? If I was Vlad I'd pack Donald on a plane and say he was a delusional liar, the truth, not even I could not argue with him
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If I was Vlad I'd send him back as soon as I had his nuclear biscuit and Donald was out of power. Then I'd send him back to America, for a real warm welcome. He's gonna want to get on the good side of Uncle Sam real fast after this one, Donald is a mere utensil and a disposable one too. Best possible out come. MAGA hats would disappear over night and the GOP would die on the spot, they deserve it they didn't put others first and it shows real bad right now! Donald and his fans wouldn't stand a chance, not even his rallies would be a safe place or space for him, prison would be safe at least.
I've been at this for about a week, wonder where I'll be in a year? Further along my path I think and happier too, if that is possible. I guess we'll see what a mighty breeze can do at the back of a regular old fart with a big heart. maybe it can help him too. It sure has so far, when ya do what ya love, ya never have to work again. Let's see how he does starting up his practice again and all the trouble an old hand is having at this, but don't forget the benefits, for there are truly two sides to this coin, you and them. A fuck of a way fur a feller to motivate himself, burning bridges as I cling to my core beliefs, the journey continues my friends. after I sit for a spell I'll have a regular routine of work and other things too, maybe the gym. If my conscience bothers me more than pain, the tribe doesn't need to carry me any more than they have to...
I could request this page be deleted and another replace it as ideas evolve in light of new information, we are a process not a fixed thing, we grow evolve and learn, or we are suppose too.
more issues posts or I'm gonna keep going some might be interested, I will be. This idea has a lot of potential. I was helping a friend today a guy who helps out in the garden and who might take over the grow more as my interests shift to other places. My plants have suffered in the past couple of weeks as I've settled core issues and with me they always come first. Mine is integrity right now and it will serve too, my ego is gonna whip my ass while my conscience calls out the strokes! That's how it works for the unenlightened, those merely trained for a long time like me, nothing special just normal like every body else we got our problems too, we just don't let them crush us into dust and others too, most of the time.....
Everybody's mindfulness will slip, even an old pro, if he does not practice regularly. Yer coming on my journey again too, if a ya follow here. i'm gonna talk to friends about starting a practice group, for this is the best approach have fiends on the path to, a good chance for them to start, me too. I have no peers here and want them, sometimes the path is a lonely journey, mine could have been better. Prove it, come see, as the Buddha said. Lead by example.
This thread and my activities here are also experimental too, or more correctly observational. How can I best teach my message here that so regular people can go a long way in training these days, if they are not tormented by their conscience and reconciling there beliefs about things. Buddhism and science for instance and modern values versus traditional ones. Much of what you read in Buddhism, the real message is how to get along with others and with in our selves, mindfulness. Anybody who is a serious student of the path like I was/am is directed to Buddhism after the 8 week evidence based course, if ya wanna be tortured by a 2500 year old rule book. But they are the true masters of the practice and know every trick imaginable, worth looking into, because it is not a dogmatic belief system, it is open and the attitude is prove it to me, as here.
These studies, I hope will result in something compact and portable a simple set of tools for winning moral and ethical arguments with those we love most, family and friends, this is a purpose too, but they all come from the same intention, the benefit of others and putting your family friends and tribe first. If yer bad enough ya get ostracized to prison, instead of dying alone and heart broken in the wilderness, where nobody loves you, we call this feeling being being alone, sad people feel it the most. If ya thought the big chief might run yer ass out , ya worried like Donald is now, cause at some level, he knows he fucked up and is very concerned now, ya can see em twitching. Getting rid of a bad chief back then was an issue too, most often someone just did the fucker in to protect those they loved, they to put others first too.
Think of the poor judge(s) who will have to order Donald tied to a chair squirming and ball gag him as he is swept up in delusional rage with his eyeballs bugged out. I got more sympathy for the judge, than Donald, and the officials and guards at the supermax too.
The again he could just jump on AF1 and run to Russia, if they don't impeach him first, wonder if he'll make a run for it during the trial. I mean Vlad is his friend and should look out for him right? The do love each other right like friends, Vlad does peak excellent English, KGB trained. He wouldn't betray Donald after he lands and is powerless would he? I mean Vlad owes Donald at least that much for all that he has done for him right? Think Vlad would betray his buddy? If I was Vlad I'd pack Donald on a plane and say he was a delusional liar, the truth, not even I could not argue with him
.If I was Vlad I'd send him back as soon as I had his nuclear biscuit and Donald was out of power. Then I'd send him back to America, for a real warm welcome. He's gonna want to get on the good side of Uncle Sam real fast after this one, Donald is a mere utensil and a disposable one too. Best possible out come. MAGA hats would disappear over night and the GOP would die on the spot, they deserve it they didn't put others first and it shows real bad right now! Donald and his fans wouldn't stand a chance, not even his rallies would be a safe place or space for him, prison would be safe at least.
I've been at this for about a week, wonder where I'll be in a year? Further along my path I think and happier too, if that is possible. I guess we'll see what a mighty breeze can do at the back of a regular old fart with a big heart. maybe it can help him too. It sure has so far, when ya do what ya love, ya never have to work again. Let's see how he does starting up his practice again and all the trouble an old hand is having at this, but don't forget the benefits, for there are truly two sides to this coin, you and them. A fuck of a way fur a feller to motivate himself, burning bridges as I cling to my core beliefs, the journey continues my friends. after I sit for a spell I'll have a regular routine of work and other things too, maybe the gym. If my conscience bothers me more than pain, the tribe doesn't need to carry me any more than they have to...
I could request this page be deleted and another replace it as ideas evolve in light of new information, we are a process not a fixed thing, we grow evolve and learn, or we are suppose too.
more issues posts or I'm gonna keep going some might be interested, I will be. This idea has a lot of potential. I was helping a friend today a guy who helps out in the garden and who might take over the grow more as my interests shift to other places. My plants have suffered in the past couple of weeks as I've settled core issues and with me they always come first. Mine is integrity right now and it will serve too, my ego is gonna whip my ass while my conscience calls out the strokes! That's how it works for the unenlightened, those merely trained for a long time like me, nothing special just normal like every body else we got our problems too, we just don't let them crush us into dust and others too, most of the time.....
Everybody's mindfulness will slip, even an old pro, if he does not practice regularly. Yer coming on my journey again too, if a ya follow here. i'm gonna talk to friends about starting a practice group, for this is the best approach have fiends on the path to, a good chance for them to start, me too. I have no peers here and want them, sometimes the path is a lonely journey, mine could have been better. Prove it, come see, as the Buddha said. Lead by example.
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DIY-HP-LED
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I'm sorry for jumping on ya son, my conscience compels me to practice, ya actually helped me a lot, again. Thanks for that cody.
codster25
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Thank you DIY. Do you ever feel though that this type of shit is pulling at the fabrics of Freedom of expression? I mean Just look at the shame and hate that is shown between people with opposing political beliefs. People shouldn’t have to be in fear of speaking there mind, regardless of who they support. Have a good a night though DIY, i didn’t need mean to question your intentions, just some food for hate thought.
DIY-HP-LED
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I knew ya had a good heart, shock was part of the motivation of my error and anger.
DIY-HP-LED
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I think I'll make my mistake with Codey into a benefit, I apologized and will be more careful in the future, I've also got a lot more motivation to sit and chew fewer heads, Though my effectiveness and motivation concern me with too much practice. I guess it's a question of balance a judgement call like the rest of life. It's my practice tailored to my needs and desires and those faded with practice. The only reason to sit regularly was for others, students and I often sat with them and didn't have a lot either, quality before quantity in my area. MBSR it's the other way around and is better for most folks, the path can be lonely at times with no one wanting to listen but one close friend, no one else was interested. All practitioners of the path have felt like this, independents like me more so, walking the path with a friend is always best for obvious reasons. It's good to have a friend, no doubt about it.
But I will benefit alone too, it's a path of self discovery and opening to the world with a heart full of joy and the feeling of being connected to something bigger than ourselves, some call it God, I call it the tribe. I think I'm right on that one though, I haven't read much, it's too obvious to be missed and I'm shocked at how many do. educated people have been on the path a long time, if got it figured it gets quicker, with the aid of brain scanners and brilliant people who use them. Who else are you going to use to study cognition? Who else knows what's going on inside better than a Tibetan with over 10,000 hours of practice a clear mind and a purified soul. These folks work with scientists and don't have any issues, even if their superstitious faith is shaken. Many have survive unimaginable torture for decades watching friends tortured, worked to death and killed with hardly a mark on their minds. This only happens when you love those who torment you and your ego is not in a stressful fight for social and physical survival, you should hear the stories, unbelievable what these people can endure and
come back smiling, at peace and mentally unharmed. They knew the secret of putting others before ones self, saints we call the in the west, the Tibetans use another term Bodhisattva, and it's meaning lies beyond death to them too.
bo·dhi·satt·va
/ˌbōdiˈsätvə,-ˈsət-/
Learn to pronounce
noun
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.
But I will benefit alone too, it's a path of self discovery and opening to the world with a heart full of joy and the feeling of being connected to something bigger than ourselves, some call it God, I call it the tribe. I think I'm right on that one though, I haven't read much, it's too obvious to be missed and I'm shocked at how many do. educated people have been on the path a long time, if got it figured it gets quicker, with the aid of brain scanners and brilliant people who use them. Who else are you going to use to study cognition? Who else knows what's going on inside better than a Tibetan with over 10,000 hours of practice a clear mind and a purified soul. These folks work with scientists and don't have any issues, even if their superstitious faith is shaken. Many have survive unimaginable torture for decades watching friends tortured, worked to death and killed with hardly a mark on their minds. This only happens when you love those who torment you and your ego is not in a stressful fight for social and physical survival, you should hear the stories, unbelievable what these people can endure and
come back smiling, at peace and mentally unharmed. They knew the secret of putting others before ones self, saints we call the in the west, the Tibetans use another term Bodhisattva, and it's meaning lies beyond death to them too.
bo·dhi·satt·va
/ˌbōdiˈsätvə,-ˈsət-/
Learn to pronounce
noun
(in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings.
DIY-HP-LED
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Nirvana is not heaven, but the snuffing out of existence and the end of wandering samsaric rebirth and death cycle and this existence was considered horrible by the ancient Vedics who Young Siddhattha Gotama* began his path in this culture, a the son of a King.
*I prefer the Pali for some things, that is the sutras used by the way of the elders or the Theravada, more to the original teaching than any other school
For those who are interested
https://www.ancient.eu/article/492/a-short-history-of-the-buddhist-schools/
Liked it but it was mostly a waste of time, but recommended along with science, if ya got issues ya gotta figure them out your traditional master from another culture won't help that much to adapt it to your culture, though Buddhism adapts to new environments quite quickly.
**The Sutras (Sanskrit; Pali Sutta) are mostly discourses attributed to the Buddha or one of his close disciples. They are all, even those not actually spoken by him, considered to be Buddhavacana, the word of the Buddha, just as in the case of all canonical literature.
*I prefer the Pali for some things, that is the sutras used by the way of the elders or the Theravada, more to the original teaching than any other school
For those who are interested
https://www.ancient.eu/article/492/a-short-history-of-the-buddhist-schools/
Liked it but it was mostly a waste of time, but recommended along with science, if ya got issues ya gotta figure them out your traditional master from another culture won't help that much to adapt it to your culture, though Buddhism adapts to new environments quite quickly.
**The Sutras (Sanskrit; Pali Sutta) are mostly discourses attributed to the Buddha or one of his close disciples. They are all, even those not actually spoken by him, considered to be Buddhavacana, the word of the Buddha, just as in the case of all canonical literature.
DIY-HP-LED
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Seems he's trying Buck, what is your price for peace?
DIY-HP-LED
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Pm perhaps?
DIY-HP-LED
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I'd like to make up to him for my anger, my intentions
What are yours?
What are yours?
DIY-HP-LED
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There's more to life than sitting on yer arse feeling yer body and breath, I figure ya should do it for this life, ya can enjoy it more and colors and other sensory phenomena become more intense as a perspective is temporarily cleared, you'll be over powered by the beauty of simple things. Most mediators do not crave excitement! Some shit is too intense, if you practice a lot, not scary, but an overwhelming experience. We become very sensitive to our senses and our body, because we are living there in the present moment. Our senses work in real time and when we connect to our bodies we do too, the mind lives in the past and future much of the time and misses a lot, if we are not mindful. The eight week course is a real eye and mind opener.
DIY-HP-LED
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Just out drumming up business for the thread, been thinking of moving, talking to friends
DIY-HP-LED
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You Black eddy or trying to make an impression?
DIY-HP-LED
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You could also make better fashion choices, most black guys I know got lot's more class, smart too.