DWC Seedsman g13skunk. PLEASE HELP

NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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Well this is my second attempt at a simplé dwc setup. The first went well but it turned out male. I've been bustin my balls lookn for what this problem is. I'm using humboldt nutrients. The plant is 2 wks old and I added nutes to 500 ppm and it kept getting worse. I then upped it to 800 and it is still getting worse. Ph goes from 5.8 to 6.7 in 24 hours but many folks have "told" me they never have and my rhino did fine like that. i don't expect much help since my wr thread only got one reply but any help is greatly appreciated. I'm leanin toward 1.Ph 2. N def or 3. P def. PLEASE HELP GUYS
 
asaph

asaph

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but in hopes that you'll improve it, here's some thoughts:

1. you're overfeeding.
2. your pH is whacked, and this is definitely hurting your plant, no matter what folks have "told" you.
3. it seems you have oxygenation problems.

so get your facts straight. read some before you go on DWC in which perfection is a must. for such a small plant, 200-300 ppm should be enough, and more than that amount is N toxicity that disturbs uptake of other elements.

flush your res (give clear water with some calmag for a day or two. do you use RO?). add oxygenation and/or lower res temps (should be no more than 75). then resume feeding at level proportionate for plant size.

good luck! and don't be a prick :P
 
NatureaFinest

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I kno man I shouldn't be a prick :( I just don't wanna lose it or at least get a clue why I did if it dies. I'm not using ro water tho I kno I should be. I kno I shouldn't listen to word of mouth bout ph. I read up on dwc but obviously not enough. + rep for ur help even tho I was a douchebag lol
 
asaph

asaph

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it's cool :)

tap water's fine too, as long as it's not too hard (ppm < 250). but it's probably the reason why your pH is acting that way. some hydro nutrients help to buffer it down, I know mine do (HESI)
 
Mineralz

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Supz man. I would say over-nuting for surez. 800ppmz at 2 weeks old is WAY high. I'm using tap water atm too. I would go with around 200ppmz of nutez to start off with and just let it ride out for the next week and see what happens. When you check your PH levels, drop them to around 5.4-5.5 so when it rises hopefully it wont be such a DRASTIC change to damage it nymore ;) You can also try removing the plant from its reservoir, flush it with plain PH'd water to get rid of all the excess nutez in your rockwool and start over with a new batch of water and nutez. Seems to work for most. Hope this helps. Happy growing!
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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asaph said:
it's cool :)

tap water's fine too, as long as it's not too hard (ppm < 250). but it's probably the reason why your pH is acting that way. some hydro nutrients help to buffer it down, I know mine do (HESI)
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Oh alright, I tested my tap before I started and it read anywhere from 24-52 ppm. Such a variation cause I tested hot tap, cold tap, and room temp. I'm sure these nutes help to buffer because it adjusts the water to ph 5.8 everytime. So does the ro water help with stablilizing ph?
 
NatureaFinest

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Mineralz said:
Supz man. I would say over-nuting for surez. 800ppmz at 2 weeks old is WAY high. I'm using tap water atm too. I would go with around 200ppmz of nutez to start off with and just let it ride out for the next week and see what happens. When you check your PH levels, drop them to around 5.4-5.5 so when it rises hopefully it wont be such a DRASTIC change to damage it nymore ;) You can also try removing the plant from its reservoir, flush it with plain PH'd water to get rid of all the excess nutez in your rockwool and start over with a new batch of water and nutez. Seems to work for most. Hope this helps. Happy growing!
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Hell yea. Thanks and +rep for the advice. I'm definitely gonna give her a good flush and let her sit in plain water a day or 2. It just looks so sad you guys. I hate seeing a plant not all perky and happy. All the yellowing started before I actually added nutes so I figured adding em would help to no avail. She has 2 small burns on the top but I actually was afraid shed be roasted when I got home yesterday but she wasn't. Flush tonight for sure
 
BendBrewer

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Ph spikes tell me you might have root problems. Also I think the nutes are high and you should me adding some cal-mag to your water if it is coming out of the tap that soft.
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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BendBrewer said:
Ph spikes tell me you might have root problems. Also I think the nutes are high and you should me adding some cal-mag to your water if it is coming out of the tap that soft.
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Ah man I hope not root problems, I have feared that from the beginning. Nutes r defo to high. I hit the panic button and upped em. Its weird that upping them really didn't change anything or make it noticeably worse. I ordered Cal mag and its suppose to be in by now but who knows where it is. +rep for ur help. So what kinda root probs u think I may have? Not enough oxygen or somethin else
 
cranker

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NatureaFinest said:
As suspected 20 views no replies. Wankers
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I had no idea I don't do hydro and a lot of people will look through and try and help. Would you rather have someone come in and put up bad info? I'm sorry I didn't type "I have no idea" but I figured it was better to leave well enough alone if I didn't know. GL with your plant. You're lucky asaph is a good guy, cuz this could have gone bad fast.
 
BendBrewer

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NatureaFinest said:
Ah man I hope not root problems, I have feared that from the beginning. Nutes r defo to high. I hit the panic button and upped em. Its weird that upping them really didn't change anything or make it noticeably worse. I ordered Cal mag and its suppose to be in by now but who knows where it is. +rep for ur help. So what kinda root probs u think I may have? Not enough oxygen or somethin else
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You do have an O2 stone in there running 24/7 I hope. If not, you need it.

I got root slime and searching for cures is what brought me to this site. Are the roots poking out through the nets? What color are they?
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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BendBrewer said:
You do have an O2 stone in there running 24/7 I hope. If not, you need it.

I got root slime and searching for cures is what brought me to this site. Are the roots poking out through the nets? What color are they?
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Yea bro I have a 5" airstone runnin non stop. The plants in a one gallon bucket. The stones running on a 15-20 gallon tank rated pump. The roots were white and about 8 or 9 in long with new ones everywhere. They are a dull orange color but I believe that's cause my micro is the same color.
 
NatureaFinest

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Cranker my bad bro. I wasn't tryin to be offensive really. Just stressin cause I just don't want it to die and I honestly didn't think bout it like that but ur right. My apologies
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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Ur a good dude asaph. I really appreciate urs and everyone elses help on here regardless of my outcome. I believe I got everybody on the +rep, if not please let me kno
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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Hey everyone. Hope everyones day and grows r going well. I was on here and none of my sub'd threads had updates so I just wanted to update u all on my g13 skunk. She's still kickin, showed first pre flower yesterday. She isn't branching any. I was hoping someone could let me kno if there's a particular nute that would help her branch. Any help is greatly appreciated. My ph is now holding steady at 5.8-5.9. Not sure why as I haven't really changed to ro water or anything. Anyways here's a few pics. Not the highest quality and I apologize for that. Thanks for all your help in advance
 
drgreentm

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whats up bro i see she is doing good, if you want to force those nodes to grow a bit you might want to consider topping her it will promote allot more branching and keep her shorter, are you using rock wool under that hdroton? if so what size? if so this could have been causing your ph to wack out at first (if not soaked in ph stable water i submerge mine for a few hours in 1/4 strength nutes with proper ph) and this could have caused a lock out for a while just fyi for the future.
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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drgreentm said:
whats up bro i see she is doing good, if you want to force those nodes to grow a bit you might want to consider topping her it will promote allot more branching and keep her shorter, are you using rock wool under that hdroton? if so what size? if so this could have been causing your ph to wack out at first (if not soaked in ph stable water i submerge mine for a few hours in 1/4 strength nutes with proper ph) and this could have caused a lock out for a while just fyi for the future.
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thanks for stoppin by doctor and for the compliments. I'm just happy she's alive really. I was considering topping or lst to maybe get em growing. I do have it in a small 1"x1"x2" rockwool cube and fuck yea man I think u r dead on about my ph. I soaked it but like an idiot didn't ph my water. And me top feeding once every day or two would definitely help screw it up. its good to kno my nutrients r ph stable. Every time I check it since I started back adding nutes it hovers right around 5.8 all the time ÷-.2 and the new growth since then looks great. Man I can't believe I didn't think about askin u to begin with. I got mad respect for u bro, ur helpful and knowledgeable. ÷rep if riu allows it. Ur the greatest! Ill definitely be doin more dwc grows now that I kno this
 
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