DWC Scrog Grow Extrema & El Monstre!

You not working your roots hard enough. They are lazy and pampered, they are getting all the water and nutes in their cozy little net pot. But like the grasshopper, come fall there will not be enough roots to uptake the nutes to give you those buf buds you desire.

Lower your water level, make those bitches work for their food and water.

BluBerry, I am most definitely interested I believe in learning and most times it's from a mistake of sorts one of my own or others. So anything I can share that may or may not be useful I offer freely. It's good hearing about your roots the look good in the photos those will drop I also believe your right about the water level Like bonzi said let em look for it I like yo to fill mine to the bottom of the net pot then let it drink for a couple 3 days before i add water, well water is good and also good to know your ph is stable, with the ph^v i have shitwater here so I use distilled. I barely check ph anymore it's always 6 even after adding food (jack's classic+bigbud) about once a week i drain all and start over fresh, 2 days just water the i top off with jack's mix and after about 3 days just distilled w/bigbud. works nicely so far but ya here are a few pics I know dough ain't a prob but if all is chinese made then why spend more than you have to?

hope they show... the first three are the roots some bubbles and the stone and what it's feeding, the other two is the one plant that had the brown slime I took it out of there and went over to the shower and put the handheld on half massage and washed those bitches out!! then washed out the can took a pair of scissors and cut the roots off and left about two inches hanging out of the bottom, and now two weeks later the new ones came saw kicked ass. (no more superthrive in hydroanything for me) that can is the one with the visine bottle "airstone" ummm just lost my train of thought bbl dude they will stretch!!

here we go I think...

Are those roots? Lol! Blu I'm happy to see everything working for you. I have to get used to seeing roots in your journal now. When are you planing on switching to flower? Week or two?

Very nice man!!! looks like you've got em lined out, I was thinking that top feeding might be one cause of lazy roots. and it looks like you have more than enough bubble action, remember it's not the bubbles injecting O2 into the water but the rippling effect that oxygenates the water. The breaking of the surface tension. you got gooduns there MMmm Hhmm. Oh yeah btw apologies for my pics in your journal, you want me to remove?

happy first day of flowering!!!!! Can't wait to see that screen full of buds and hopefully you'll have 3 gurls out of 3

Thanks! I'm excited to find out if they are girls. Hopefully within a week I will know something. My concern is that since I have alot of smaller shoots with one and two sets of leaves on each. Once they start stretching I hope they pack on some bud height and not stem height. I'm assuming I will continue to tuck and pull from hole to hole until the stretch stops. I just don't want alot of 3 inch tall buds I guess is what I'm trying to say. I have been bending the stem so that the side shoots will grow up so now I will switch and not try to grow new shoots but rather try and let the shoots pack on size. Thats my plan anyways.

1140 PPM
pH is unknown still
cab temp 76
rez temp 68

Realized this morning that I forgot to change out the bulb when I switched to 12/12. So I have been flowering for 2 days with the MH. I'm sure they didn't notice anything different. It's switched out now. GAME ON!!
I dropped my temp/hum meter in the rez the other day and now the humidity has been stuck on 20%. And still no pH meter so that is still unknown. 1150 PPM

Oh YEaahhhh!! vedy nice!! hps baby!! I vegged mine for about a week under 400wmh then one day I was bored and switched to 400whps and wow so much brighter. I finished veg and kept it there. I doubt I'll go back to mh at all. I can't wait to see what the screen'll do for ya man. I'm gonna be pulling that big one in the pic soon, got two silly poison dworks from a pal that will be going under the hps treatment soon along with everything else in there

yes, positive thinking! Welp you'll definitely know in a week weather or not they're ladies. yeah i was thinking about trying one of those 430w mixed bulbs and see if there is a difference. I can tell you that before I used the hid's I vegged for two months under some t5's very very bright t5's made for veg. and they didn't really beef up until i placed them under the hid. I don't really get it, but i did realize that the lumen output of the hid is glorious compared to anything else. but as for the mh maybe i should try to veg the same amount of plants under say 600w or 1k next time around, I have some strains that have short inter-nodal lengths and some that are farther apart, all plants raised under the same lighting and same age. (some were transplanted in the pearlite two into dwc, and four into soil. All started in sphagnum) so I have a tendency to believe that that spacing is also dictated by its dna. also the light's height can affect the "stretch" of a plant. I know alot of people say 20" or so above the plants and if your hand gets hot then raise it. I dig all that I do I'm the biggest fan of common sense ya know? but I also run a fan to keep those tops cool and keep my light about 2" away from em and I don't cook anything. but yeah maybe ill try some bigger mh's from the get go this coming round.

Well I'm not 100% sure but I have a strong feeling that Extrema is a male. I see something that looks like a seed, but it has been on the Extrema since the beginning of growth. It's not on the other 2 plants. It seems to be getting a little bigger. It's still only one so I'm gonna give it another couple days and see if they multiply and have 3-4 seeds at each spot. It has been my thoughts from the get go, cuz the males are usually taller, prettier, bigger and show sign of sex first. If these other two are females then that will be alright, but I do not think that my yield or my bud sizes are gonna be anything like I wanted. I'll fuck around and get 7 grams total yield probably. If Extrema is a confirmed male like I'm thinking, I will probably have some lost interest in this grow. I'll finish it out but it will probably be some bullshit. Cuz the El Mons will prob have small buds on them. Oh well. It is what it is. Maybe Extrema will change its mind and decide to be a female. Enough of my morning bitching!

Sorry to hear that. See if you can talk him in to a sex change lol!
Don't loose interest if it turns out to be a male. If it is that'll give you time to pay more attention to the other two.
Got any pics?

I wish I had the luxury to lose interest, I lose interest and neither I or my Wife have anything to smoke.

I doubt I will lose interest. I was just frustrated. I have always had an interest in growing and plants, but the yield I wanted will be greatly reduced. I just checked and I'm pretty sure that both of the El Mons are females (as I see small hairs on them) and the Extrema has one single ball shaped deal on a few of the branches, so I'm thinking male. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Another day or so should tell me for sure. The El Mons were my free seeds and I purchased the Extrema seeds. I started out with 2 Extrema and the one died, so I was really hoping for this female. Oh well. I still have some Extrema seeds left for another time. I don't think the screen will fill out as nicely now but oh well. I should still get some good quality smoke and gain alot of experience and knowledge from all of you that I will put into future use. If I could get a QP off of the two El Mons I would be happy. I think that seems reasonable..
We shall see!!

My pics don't show up well under the HPS so I'll have to mess with the camera a little and see what I can figure out.