DWC Lowryder - Attitude Seed Bank

Wild new avy there too man.

Im getting a 400 HPS from htgsupply.com and they offer a MH conversion bulb for an extra 45 bucks. I also want to get a cool tube for the setup. Its a magnetic ballast but it only cost 120 for the 400HPS + 45 for the bulb + 80 for the cool tube. Ive been wanting to go organic for a long time. Ive inquired about the foxfarms being organic and people tell me there almost completely organic. So until i can find a 100% organic nutes that do as good of a job as foxfarms then im stuck with what im using. Im going to get it ordered this tuesday and hope its in by the weekend.

What is the difference between magnetic and digital ballast? Ive chosen the 400HPS magnetic becuase its dirt cheap...

Mushrooms... i have 2 syringes here and ive heard there complicated to grow at first but then they become very easily grown... im going to try it b4 long and ill show u sum pic in a month once i get them goin...

Digital ballast means longer bulb life, no loss in luminous output over time, less heat, and no noise.

Look on ebay and you can find this...

400W digital ballast WITH cool tube, timer, and hangers for $200.00 with shipping included.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-WATT-400W-HPS-DIGITAL-GROW-LIGHT-AIR-COOL-TUBE-HOOD_W0QQitemZ230370583839QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a328251f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

HTG doesn't even have a cheaper version of a 400W digital ballast. They have the digital greenhouse ones, but the 600W is only $25 more.

Still, that listing on ebay is the best deal I have seen. I love HTG and have ordered from them twice before, but unless they can beat this I'm going with the other guys.

That is a good deal diggity but I would want to upgrade to a better bulb. Word on the street is it really can make a difference. I like the HPS that has a little more blue in it to try to cut down on the stretching that can make for weak branches that an HPS can do. I would question how good of a reflector it is also, that to can make a good difference. Most will tell you what they use and how well it is supposed to reflect the light. A digital ballast is a more efficient ballast both on input and output.

Whats a good site to find some bulbs.. mines gettin a little old and I want to see if there is a kick ass 150 bulb out there

This place has a great selection of bulbs. http://www.1000bulbs.com/150-Watt-HPS/. I would get one with the highest color temp, not much difference but they have a 1900k and a 2100k. As for organic, the grow big and tiger bloom are not organic. Only the Big Bloom is. I'll try to make a list of what I have later. After my last soil grow I'm liking it better than the hydro. Better smell and taste. I will do more hydro and want to go more organic with it also. So far I want to stick with Advanced Nutrients stuff as much as I can.

Just saw these at the an AN site, they look pretty cool. I might have to try some.http://www.discountadvancednutrients.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=65

Here's some organic from AN. I use the Mother Earth Teas as a base nute. I have used them for a while but not as a base, but as a supplement. In the last news letter/ tips they say not to use it in DWC though. And I had been. Don't know but maybe that was part of my problem, not just the high temps. I don't know. But doing bio/organic when temps get to warm doesn't seem good. I'm going to get some more Nirvana too. http://www.discountadvancednutrients.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2.
I want to try these too if they are ok for soil, The bloom and grow. http://www.discountadvancednutrients.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=7

Im still decideing on what to get but ill prob go one from HTG becuse there really cheap and im broke. Ill post more later once im not so high

Hey hashman.. i went to my local hydro store and got the prices of some lights.. i dont know much about these more expensive lights so I need some help deciding whats a good deal and whats not. This is what they got....

Digital Ballasts:
Galaxy 250W MH/HPS Multi Volt - $155
Galaxy 400W MH/HPS Multi Volt - $180
Galaxy 600W MH/HPS MULTI VOLT $235

They also have some magnetic ballast but im not going to get one..

I would go with a digital if you can. I did some research and went with Lumitek. $149.95+9.95 shipping for the 400w and 179.95 for the 600w. Good price on this one on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120397998406&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT It's the lowest price I found on Ebay or anywhere else. I was going to get that one for my veg box but I'm now thinking that now that I have the light rail I might go with a 1000w for the flower closet and use my 600 for veg. I was wanting to do 2 600w for flower but with my heat issues I might be better off with the single 1000w. But I will have to make a bigger veg box, I would like to have a 3x3 for the 600w.

Holy shit thats cheap.. i just dished out 350 for this damn 400HPS/MH light including the reflector, ballast, and bulb...

I probably totally got screwed paying 350 for everything and im sorta pissed about it when i could have gotten a cheap setup for 120.... this better be worth it.... i got a $65 light bulb but its 70% in orange spectrum and 30% in blue spectrum.... the ballast is a 400 digital ballast... and the cooltube is made for any wattage like 150, 400, 600, or even 1000... so im glad i got the cooltube but not the $180 ballast

You'll most always pay more at a local place. But it's good to support local business. When I got my 600w set up I didn't want to wait to order and just went and bought it knowing I could get it cheaper if I waited. But with cash in hand (had just sold my first 1/4 lb) I wanted it NOW!! My back was sore so I took the day off from work and went and got it and put it up. I do have a good place not to far away in Mass. http://www.nehydro.com/. I get my online orders in 3 days or I can drive there in about 45 min. With better prices than the 2 places closer to me. That's a nice set up though, we'll be seeing pics soon, right? You have so much more light (and that will travel farther) than the 150. Your probably putting it up right now huh? Once you recover from that get a MH bulb for veg and you should get fatter stalks with less strecthing. Once you start getting some product to market you will be able to get stuff you need. (And want)

Ill totally post pic later tonight... for now i gotta jet to class and day dream of smokin some weed in my new grow room ... buying locally is probably a better idea... besides that $120 setup thru htgsupply.com is probably a junker.. ill talk to you tonight... later hash

Should i put the 400 vertically around the sides of the plant or place it horizontally on top the plant?

If you have room put it on top. Or can you set the light higher?

I can put it on top horizontally ... i have something else to hang it on other then the shelving ... i gotta run and get some eye hooks and some chain first.. ill be back in a half hour - hour with some pictures

Here's some pics of mine getting ready to flower. I think they are looking very healthy. Some of my best ones yet. So far every harvest is better than the last, and with the same strain too. Put the light on 12/12 last night. And my new babies of course, all 5 Lemon Haze are out of the soil and the roadrunner. I love the mylar, it makes the grow look twice as big. The Skunk are the ones on the buckets on the right.

Can you get some kind of reflectors around them? Even if you just paint some cardboard flat white, 98 cents at Walmart for spray.