Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

phreakygoat

phreakygoat

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wow, that is a very cool method of drying, i'm gonna have to do that w/ the jars from now on. sweating the weed, then slow drying... I'm all for it. its looking like you'll have a bit of smoke for a little while :bigjoint:

looks like you have an admirer (vcb66615), apparently jizz was involved :fire:
 
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cruzer101

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Integra21 said:
Just wait till your bulb gets put in and all your plants get to reach maturity. If I can hit 9.75oz with mine, so can you. Have you ever looked into co2?
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Yea I have. As a matter of fact I have a small tank and regulator with a solenoid that will fit on the bottom shelf. My problem is the exhaust. The cab heats up quickly and blows it out. The only thing I can think of is to some how build an internal air conditioner of sorts. Conventional AC units produce heat, thats where I am stuck.

An idea I am toying around with is to run the res water through a coil and back, blowing air over the coil to cool the interior without an exhaust.
I hear I cant use copper and I dont think plastic would be efficent.

Any Ideas?
 
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cruzer101

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phreakygoat said:
wow, that is a very cool method of drying, i'm gonna have to do that w/ the jars from now on. sweating the weed, then slow drying... I'm all for it. its looking like you'll have a bit of smoke for a little while :bigjoint:
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Yea, I did it by accident once. I dried them too fast, jarred them, they sweat and I put them back in bags. Dam, It turned out better then the previous grow of the same strain. So thats how I dry now. Takes the same amount of time.
 
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fatigues

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The yield is in the zone for the wattage. That said, I do think you will be able to do much better on subsequent runs. In particular, I think the number of plants can be halved. Combined with a solid SCROG, that approach should allow you to get more light on the buds and less of it on non-producing leaves. Light penetration seemed to be the big problem for this grow. Sometimes, less is more. I would expect a SCROG to increase your yield by 40%-60%, easily.

Thanks for the show.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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cruzer101 said:
Yea I have. As a matter of fact I have a small tank and regulator with a solenoid that will fit on the bottom shelf. My problem is the exhaust. The cab heats up quickly and blows it out. The only thing I can think of is to some how build an internal air conditioner of sorts. Conventional AC units produce heat, thats where I am stuck.

An idea I am toying around with is to run the res water through a coil and back, blowing air over the coil to cool the interior without an exhaust.
I hear I cant use copper and I dont think plastic would be efficent.

Any Ideas?
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If you have the cash to swing it, You could put a portable ac next to the cab and make sure it is properly vented and attach a duct from the front of your unit to the cab. Would be a lot of work though. The only other suggestion would be to build a tent around your cabs and place a portable ac in the tent and co2 enrich the whole tent and keep the intake and exhaust cycling at low speeds. This would constanly cool and co2 enrich all of the cabinets.
 
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cruzer101

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fatigues said:
The yield is in the zone for the wattage. That said, I do think you will be able to do much better on subsequent runs. In particular, I think the number of plants can be halved. Combined with a solid SCROG, that approach should allow you to get more light on the buds and less of it on non-producing leaves. Light penetration seemed to be the big problem for this grow. Sometimes, less is more. I would expect a SCROG to increase your yield by 40%-60%, easily.

Thanks for the show.
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No Problem, I enjoy posting it and getting opinions.
Thanks for yours. I will see if I can make that happen.
 
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cruzer101

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Integra21 said:
If you have the cash to swing it, You could put a portable ac next to the cab and make sure it is properly vented and attach a duct from the front of your unit to the cab. Would be a lot of work though. The only other suggestion would be to build a tent around your cabs and place a portable ac in the tent and co2 enrich the whole tent and keep the intake and exhaust cycling at low speeds. This would constanly cool and co2 enrich all of the cabinets.
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Thanks for the ideas, I am afraid neither one will work though. Like the first one. I have a portable a/c unit I can put in the widdow and duct it to the cab but I get plenty of cool air from under the house. The tent idea, I would need a 8x8 tent and this room is only like 12x18 It would take too much room.

Let me ask this, a/c units recurculate the air right? Maybe I can find a mini one and mount it in the side wall of the cab. Would co2 leak through the exhaust of an air conditioner? I hang out in this room.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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unless its a dual hose setup, it will suck your co2 out of the room. If you have a tank and you arent too worried about using your co2 to help out a little. I would get a digital recycling timer like this one:
http://www.growlightexpress.com/environmental-controllers-6/sentinel-drt-1-digital-recycling-timer-539.html
and set it to something like 5sec on, 30min off. Just so there is a constant small supply of co2 in the room and a tank should last about a month on a cycle like that, assuming the psi isnt set crazy.
 
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cruzer101

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Yea, thats sort of how I had it before. On a timer without a sensor. I set it to got on 15 min every two hours of daylight. I never knew how much was actually in there. Once it ran out I just never re filled it. I figured the area was just to dam small to create a sealed enviroment for any lenght of time.
 
newbganjafarma

newbganjafarma

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hey whas goin on bro? i was jus skipping thru ur journal jus cruising thru looks like u did a nice job.. how long did u veg and flower those plants for the ones u already harvested?
 
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cruzer101

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newbganjafarma said:
hey whas goin on bro? i was jus skipping thru ur journal jus cruising thru looks like u did a nice job.. how long did u veg and flower those plants for the ones u already harvested?
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The grow I just finished I vegged for 4 weeks and got plants 16 inches tall.
I flowered for 8 weeks they got about 43" in height. Then flushed for 10 days.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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cruzer101 said:
Yea, thats sort of how I had it before. On a timer without a sensor. I set it to got on 15 min every two hours of daylight. I never knew how much was actually in there. Once it ran out I just never re filled it. I figured the area was just to dam small to create a sealed enviroment for any lenght of time.
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I have been doing a lot of expierimenting with timing and the 15min on is just too much. And I know thats the best you can get with a standard timer. I still see it being effective in short interval bursts several times a day. Just a thought.
 
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cruzer101

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Temps 85 res 70°
PPM 200
PH 6.2

I added a gallon with nutes brought it to 330PPM PH 5.8

The girls have been in the tub for about a week now. 4 TW and 5 PK.
They are on Flora Nova grow nutes. They look a little hungry but healthy.


Look at the difference in sise.









Heres what I am going with.







A good shot of the small Purple Kush I saved.












That Kush is insanely producing side shoots. I took a small one and stuck it in a rooter cube.

I checked on the drying buds and there was no moisture so I just kept them in the jars. The smell is gone so they are turning.​
 
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DenseBuds

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How long into flowering will you take clones? We've been having some issues with our clones dying (aeroponics) recently. Were pretty sure it's the heat as we had near 100% success last winter using basically the same method. Anyways, was thinking about increasing my potential by only cloning females once they've shown their sex. After a few rounds, I would eventually have a group of mothers to cut from w/o flowering...
 
DST

DST

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Hi Cruzer,

Just been busy reading through from your harvest, Nice work, Congrats!! And busy again I see. Good luck with the growing C.

DST
 
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cruzer101

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DenseBuds said:
How long into flowering will you take clones? We've been having some issues with our clones dying (aeroponics) recently. Were pretty sure it's the heat as we had near 100% success last winter using basically the same method. Anyways, was thinking about increasing my potential by only cloning females once they've shown their sex. After a few rounds, I would eventually have a group of mothers to cut from w/o flowering...
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Well, I have been told to take clones only in veg and from the lower part of the plant for best results. I have tried taking them at two weeks into flower and have had similar results. So that works. Right now I have a couple cuttings I took from a widow in full flower. Its been a couple weeks now and they look the same as the day I cut them.

I think you are best off taking cuttings from a female too. You really only need one. Then keep it in veg and clone off her.
 
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cruzer101

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Integra21 said:
They look real hungry. Are they growing under your new bulb?
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Yes. This comparison grow is with a Phillips Son Agro 400 watt HPS. This bulb has 14k more lumens plus I added that massive reflector so I think we will do ok without the CFL's on the side. The bulb is a bit more yellow so the leaf looks a little lighter in color but they could still take more nutes.
 
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