DST's Vertical Step Grow - Headband and Cali Orange

DST

DST

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Malky: I have caught a couple of Rab C's shows of late so was reminded of this great term.

The squished one hasn't done nowt, or it's unsquished partner, so both KB1's have yet to pop. Real good sign about the KB2's though. That's like 12 hours in the germ bag on my little warm patch on the floor in the potting shed (pipes run underneath the floor so it has a nice cosy feel, keeps the germ bags warm)
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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DST said:
Thanks for puffin by, 1BMM and for the bump. Aprreciated.


Hey Cheezey, so whats 323 the code for?

Yeh, 707 is where DoN and Arron are from...did you not know? But now they are 020 dude....



Thanks SL2. The lowdown on the HB. Well that's an interesting question. Firstly, lets cover the facts (just in case anyone chimes in and wants to say...dude, that ain't Headband... or whatever....)

Headband is generally a Clone only strain. And I think this is down to the fact that no-one has stabilised the genetics of the plant, or tried to backcross with regs to get males...etc. So generally HB's will produce a male flower and you will get a couple of beans each grow)
The original linneage is OG Kush X East Coast Sour Diesel. This was a late strain to hit the Netherlands, and was introduced through the afore mentioned DNA genetics. When I bought a bag of weed I found around 8 seeds in there. This was a year ago now. I grew out the seeds, got loads of seeds from the first batch (which I will again this batch as they are from seed.) After the first clone the male flowers vanished and the seed production seemed to go down to a couple of each plant. No big hassle for me.

This time round I am using all my own seeds that I got from running my first batch...so there are quite a few diff phenos in there. The one I am aiming to keep was the one that went twin on me. Two seedlings from one seed. The second seedling had all the male flowers, so was chopped, and the remaining plant, Thelma is the keeper! No male flowers at all from seed. Very happy with that.

If you need further lowdowns just gies a shout.

Peace, DST

I have 6 other clones from the HB's which are from an indica looking pheno which I will run next time around.

The stone: As it say's you feel like Bjorn Borg with his Flia Headband round your cranium - nice frontal lobe feeling. You also get a nice body stone with it hitting your shoulders and slowly working it's way down. The taste for me has a sweet kush with sour back kick from the Diesel...the smell is a cross between fruity and anaseed.

It can take forever to flower, you can run it for 12 weeks no problem. I do mine for 10-11 normally.

This is one of the few weeds in the Dam (like some of the rare cheeses) that can go for 18 euro per gram. If you like Sour, and have a hankering for Kush...you will love the shit out of Headband.:hump:
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Touche ......dst
I love the hb........
I was introduced to this strain a couple of years ago ..... Ive heard alot of jaw over headband.....
Some say its okay , not that great......
But i put it top 3 .......
I have reaserched this strain for quite some time now.....
Ive heard the original hb was Diesil #1 .....
I dont know if i tried the original cut ....or maybe the original wasnt to great....
Despite what i read on the net There are basically 3 types of hbs that ive tried and seen on the menu.....

!st there just the headband...
Its usually on the sativa side of the menu for less.... i suppose this to be the org. hb...... I believe it too be sour d x ogk x sour d..... or maybe desil #1

2nd there is the headband og.... which is ogk x sd x og..... which will usually go for ten dollars more ...but definately the stronger of the two.....

3rd theres the 707.... i guess it was named after arcata county in nor cal....
Which i believe to be the best breed...
Its a cross of sour d x master kush x og kush.... similar to headband og....
I think this hb was the new and improved headband that californias fell in love with ......

The greatest part about 707 is you get the earthyness of the master kush, the sourness of the sd.... and the clean fuelly pine taste of the og......

Wheras the sativa headband is not as hard hitting and debilitating as the 707 or the hbog.....

All in all you cant go wrong with hb....
Its evolved from just a sativa.... too the ultimate hybrid of ogx sd .....(maybe im wrong) who would have thought og x sd would be so great together....
it was an obvoius choice to me ....i think....

Everytime i get headband it taste just like pinsol!

So D which type of hb do u have....????
 
DST

DST

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From what the guys at the Grey Area told me, and DNA provide a lot of weed to those guys, it's OG Kush X East Coast Sour Diesel. Eh voila.

And in the past I have got two phenos, one which is more indica, and one which is more sativa tasting. Bot have the characteristic frontol lobe head smash, and the indica has added to that a very nice uper body effect (reaching from the shoulders down) Got to be good for back and neck pain!!! I have never had pinsol (guess thats a US thang - we miss all those great products that the US throw so much E numbers into, hehe.) But I can imagine from the name the flavour.

p.s Nice overview of the diff HB's, thanks Cheezey.

Peace, DST
 
DST

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Well it was, water and feeding time at the zoo. Also cleaned out the veg tent. and watered and fed respective little yins.

KAAS FLASH:
Cheese Bx1 - first seed tap root appeared, quickly transplanted into tub with seedling soil and a wee drinky. Second squashed seed still inactive.

Cheese Bx2'S - ak kb2'S are nestled in and have popped up to say a-ight - seed husks still on though.

Lots of seeds on some of the Headbands, Especially the ones that I didn't do a lot with (at the back and top) OH well, more seeds for the experimenting.

So heres the pic updates:

The Cali O's for the chop - minus the one pic previously.



And the Cali's hanging:




And the Casey Jones 1 and 2:

No1:




Casey No2:


super cropped branch

A big nug



Looking into the zoo post harvest


Some of tha Anasazi Headbands


The OG Kush


NY47


And that's that for today.

Peace, DST
 
las fingerez

las fingerez

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easy D so obviously u cant tell properly till the weigh in but what u reckoning to vertical vs horizontal so far? managed 2 get my 400mh working, dodgy connection on the bulb holder lol. read UB's post and he says that plants dont need light in concentration all the time, so gonna give it a go. my temps jumped str8 up though, whats ur views on temps mate? cheers bro
 
TrynaGroSumShyt

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las fingerez said:
easy D so obviously u cant tell properly till the weigh in but what u reckoning to vertical vs horizontal so far? managed 2 get my 400mh working, dodgy connection on the bulb holder lol. read UB's post and he says that plants dont need light in concentration all the time, so gonna give it a go. my temps jumped str8 up though, whats ur views on temps mate? cheers bro
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if i was to put his last grow vs. this grow i would say the vert would win out by harvest time. but i also think he added 400 more watts to this grow.
 
DST

DST

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Hey peeps, quite happy with yesterdays chop. Just about to smoke the first of a radiator dried bit of bud from the Casey, hehe The smell when I cracked open this Casey nug open is real nice already. I can smell similarities to the shop bought Casey (which is hydro as far as I am aware) but my pref is for organic or bio grown....the flavours just seem to come through more for me (or perhaps I am kidding myself) The prooof shall be in the curing and smoking I guess.

As far as yield. this is gonna piss on my last grow for sure (which was just over a half pound). But the canopy space has been doubled as has the lights (and theres more ladies in there). But the job was to use a similar space and get more out of it. I really began thinking (heres a point for Fingerez) that I wouldn't be able to do this in that small space, temps started off high, but after certain tweaks they leveled themselves down to between 25-27c. I think the close you get to 30 the more the is effects the conditions. Let's put it this way, it is not comfortable for me to be in it (and I am a sun lizard) then I am thinking, the girls are not going to be too happy either....and plantys can certainly take heat better than us..

Timescales this is a week or so quickere than the OGK on the last grow which is always nice. MY OG's will come out nexzt week. Will flush them midweek. Probably do the chop a wee or so after that. That will take them to just under 10 weeks. I think the OG's are better in week 9...just denser imo. Then when those get chopped I will flush the 10 week girls and do them the following week....I can't wait to try Blackjack and the NEw York 47...they both look very special.

SO I think guestimate at least about 6 oz from this little lot. We shall see what the other lot brings over the next few weeks...

Have a peaceful Sunday bods.

DST
 
DST

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So everyday I am taking pics for my Time in Motion study, so on my Sunday morning shoot I took Thelma my Headband, and Blackjack out for a little show and tell. And here's the results. The Blackjack is going for another 2 weeks, Thelma...we shall see how it goes... possibly more..

Enjoy:weed:

Thelma Headband:




Blackjack:




And here are the little Kaas Kopjes, three of them poking their littel Cheese Heads up.


And thats the Sunday update. Catch up with you all soon.

DST
 
mr west

mr west

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thats the thing with poping seeds in water and towel, the seed casings stay on cuz its had no soily stuff to push through and leave it behind. All looking super lovely tho mate carry on lol
 
DST

DST

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mr west said:
thats the thing with poping seeds in water and towel, the seed casings stay on cuz its had no soily stuff to push through and leave it behind. All looking super lovely tho mate carry on lol
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good point Westy. Maybe try it without the towel next time around.
 
mr west

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I just stick my seeds in jiffy peat pellets and then in the heated prop, works a treat every time so far.
 
las fingerez

las fingerez

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mr west said:
I just stick my seeds in jiffy peat pellets and then in the heated prop, works a treat every time so far.
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off topic but kinda on the same wavelength. having a sunflower growing competition with my mum, both have 5 seeds and 5 jiffys. all 5 of mine in the jiffys have sprouted and i already know which one is entering. gonna try topping one 2 see if u can get a multi headed sunflower lol, thats gonna need some support!


right back on topic, have been thinkin lots about this temp/light thing of late, have heard so many different interpretations but there is many ways to do things. i was thinkin the climate from where our girls come from is so varied they must be able to support a varied micro climate inside our tents. each one is probably gonna be suited to different climates but with all these high cross strains were getting the best of both worlds maby thats why they support a varied climate????

ras says he's running around 31oc 30% rh with no problems 2 get rid of his PM. Have tried this myself this morning/afternoon, my temp has risen to about 28, had 2 put the window back on the latch as have already turned the fans to idle lol. its that aerowing for the 600, running the 400mh since half 10 this morning, turned my electric heating off lol. i think a kW is overkill slightly lol bet them slags love it though pmsl :)
 
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