Drying process

Bluephish

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Thank you all! Much appreciated. I'll keep ya posted on this 1 plant. Rh and temp matches what I've read in this post. Next question is on the 6 going. All indoor. Chop? They seem to just keep growing. This is week 9.
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Kingrow1

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Firstly peeps need to stop talking humidity - weed dties in a wide variety of them it makes no difference (getting to the point where im gona start calling some dumbasses for not realizing).

Secondly it dont matter how long the bud takes to dry, as long as its naturally dried i.e. the hang dry you will have to wait two weeks for the flavour and smell to come through.

Peeps who jar before two weeks or ask about the hay smell after a few days or a week arent following the advice and listening to the reams of bad advice far too much.

Who cares aboout the cure (except noobs who think it magically changes buds - if you can grow and dry bud till perfect dank smokable sellable top shelf product you arent ready to handle the big boy toys so put that jar down and do ano ther grow so you can practice the simple hang dry again.

Those who cant work this out and go about instructing otherwisr are still uneducated in the proper ways and science and can be easily corrected and we can have a few less early jarring hay smelling blind leading blind threads.

Rep to those who hang their bud long enough for not only it to dry but the enzymes and bacteria to breakdown and bring out the flavour smell and dankness :-)
 

Kingrow1

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Sorry that should rrad 'if you cant grow' not 'if you can grow' in the fourth paragraph down - this new format has lost my edit button on my old phone ffs :-)
 

Bluephish

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Firstly peeps need to stop talking humidity - weed dties in a wide variety of them it makes no difference (getting to the point where im gona start calling some dumbasses for not realizing).

Secondly it dont matter how long the bud takes to dry, as long as its naturally dried i.e. the hang dry you will have to wait two weeks for the flavour and smell to come through.

Peeps who jar before two weeks or ask about the hay smell after a few days or a week arent following the advice and listening to the reams of bad advice far too much.

Who cares aboout the cure (except noobs who think it magically changes buds - if you can grow and dry bud till perfect dank smokable sellable top shelf product you arent ready to handle the big boy toys so put that jar down and do ano ther grow so you can practice the simple hang dry again.

Those who cant work this out and go about instructing otherwisr are still uneducated in the proper ways and science and can be easily corrected and we can have a few less early jarring hay smelling blind leading blind threads.

Rep to those who hang their bud long enough for not only it to dry but the enzymes and bacteria to breakdown and bring out the flavour smell and dankness :-)
Kingrow,
What exactly is your drying process? I've got those plants pictured above that will be chopped soon. Would like your input. I need to get the highest quality possible.
Thanks!
 

Kingrow1

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Kingrow,
What exactly is your drying process? I've got those plants pictured above that will be chopped soon. Would like your input. I need to get the highest quality possible.
Thanks!
Trim, hang dry in a room that gets air exchange, say an open door or window and come back in two weeks for the finished product.

Mj dries and is smokeable in a week on average but it will take two weeks for the full flavor and smell to come through. This is the reason people fail when jarring before this point and get the hay smell.

You dont need to jar or cure, thousands of years and many commercial markets just dried and sold as that is the finished product and curing dosent add that much too it.

Dried bud is 10-15% moisture - no idea what the humidity is outdoors today and i dont care its irrelevant as stuff dries regardless.

Peeps want to do x y and z for drying and curing - you should know that firstly they dont understand the basics and biology to it and secondly they fear the hang dry for some crazy reason :-)
 

Bluephish

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Trim fan leaves obviously but what about the sugar leaves? Also, do I hang full branches or break them down?
Thanks again!
 

Kingrow1

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Any sugar leaf protruding past the bud should really be cut as a quality thing. We trim up to the bud but you can leave em on a small branch to see yourself that it dosent make much difference either way.

You can hang full branches or break them down - id advise breaking into managable sizes if too big.

A lot of that stuffs up to you but trimming sugar leaf and breaking bigger branches into smaller is all good practice.

Rome wasnt built in a day, you will require a little trial and error and as long as you let naturally dry and avoid mold you yourself can play about with various levels of trim and breaking branches down to suit whats eeasiest for you :-)

Trim fan leaves obviously but what about the sugar leaves? Also, do I hang full branches or break them down?
Thanks again!
 

Kingrow1

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We call it sugar leaf because it has trichs on it, save this trim for some emergency smoke or hash/concentrates :-)
 

Bluephish

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Thank you! Any thoughts on the pic of the plants last posted? I'm thinking they are very close to chopping but that's what I thought 2 weeks ago. They seem to keep getting bigger and new trichomes popping up daily.
 

Kingrow1

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Thank you! Any thoughts on the pic of the plants last posted? I'm thinking they are very close to chopping but that's what I thought 2 weeks ago. They seem to keep getting bigger and new trichomes popping up daily.
Week or two, you shouldnt be that dissapointed if you cut now though but if you want strength let her go till you can.

I see more swell can be had and more withering of brown pistils and hopefully the last remaining white pistils brown.

Its looking done in places :-)
 

Bluephish

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Week or two, you shouldnt be that dissapointed if you cut now though but if you want strength let her go till you can.

I see more swell can be had and more withering of brown pistils and hopefully the last remaining white pistils brown.

Its looking done in places :-)
Does it matter whether the lights are on or off when I chop?
 

Kingrow1

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Does it matter whether the lights are on or off when I chop?
No it dosent matter but you will be able to see what your doing with them on.

Ive got used to harvesting during lights on and on drier soil to speed the dry but all will work here. Some prefer to chop at lights on :-)
 

Bluephish

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No it dosent matter but you will be able to see what your doing with them on.

Ive got used to harvesting during lights on and on drier soil to speed the dry but all will work here. Some prefer to chop at lights on :-)
Thanks. I didn't word the question properly. When I make the decision to chop should I wait for the light in the tent to go on or just pull them out during the dark period? The dry soil makes a lot of sense. Never would have thought if that.
 

Bluephish

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No it dosent matter but you will be able to see what your doing with them on.

Ive got used to harvesting during lights on and on drier soil to speed the dry but all will work here. Some prefer to chop at lights on :-)
Got them all hanging. 40 humidity 60 degrees. I know you said humidity doesn't matter to you. Curious if I should raise it so they don't dry too fast.
 

Kingrow1

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Got them all hanging. 40 humidity 60 degrees. I know you said humidity doesn't matter to you. Curious if I should raise it so they don't dry too fast.
Bud dries in a wide variety of humidities, you cant dry bud too fast or overdry by naturally hanging. The time it takes to dry bud is not noticable in the final product because it dosent matter and only that it reached a low enough moisture percentage in less time than mold needs to get started.

Some idiots here think the time it takes and slowing the dry by increasing humidity makes better bud by some magical reason they struggle to explain scientifically like any other commercial process in the world.

Shit bud always dries crispy because thats what happens when you grow organic matter made of cells badly and it tends to release all its moisture which makes it crisp and turn to dust. A lot of know it alls then thought they had overdried and thus jar far too early and spread magical broscience. The data points to well grown dried bud having a moisture level of between 10-15% and why the primo stuff you have had compresses and dosent crisp up to a small pile of dust.

You follow whatever, there are plenty of us been hang drying bud then selling it when flavour and taste come through without the need to jar or adjust air humidity which kinda flies in the face of those that do everything differently :-)
 

Bluephish

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Bud dries in a wide variety of humidities, you cant dry bud too fast or overdry by naturally hanging. The time it takes to dry bud is not noticable in the final product because it dosent matter and only that it reached a low enough moisture percentage in less time than mold needs to get started.

Some idiots here think the time it takes and slowing the dry by increasing humidity makes better bud by some magical reason they struggle to explain scientifically like any other commercial process in the world.

Shit bud always dries crispy because thats what happens when you grow organic matter made of cells badly and it tends to release all its moisture which makes it crisp and turn to dust. A lot of know it alls then thought they had overdried and thus jar far too early and spread magical broscience. The data points to well grown dried bud having a moisture level of between 10-15% and why the primo stuff you have had compresses and dosent crisp up to a small pile of dust.

You follow whatever, there are plenty of us been hang drying bud then selling it when flavour and taste come through without the need to jar or adjust air humidity which kinda flies in the face of those that do everything differently :-)
You're the best. Thank you! Put my mind to ease.
 

Bluephish

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Bud dries in a wide variety of humidities, you cant dry bud too fast or overdry by naturally hanging. The time it takes to dry bud is not noticable in the final product because it dosent matter and only that it reached a low enough moisture percentage in less time than mold needs to get started.

Some idiots here think the time it takes and slowing the dry by increasing humidity makes better bud by some magical reason they struggle to explain scientifically like any other commercial process in the world.

Shit bud always dries crispy because thats what happens when you grow organic matter made of cells badly and it tends to release all its moisture which makes it crisp and turn to dust. A lot of know it alls then thought they had overdried and thus jar far too early and spread magical broscience. The data points to well grown dried bud having a moisture level of between 10-15% and why the primo stuff you have had compresses and dosent crisp up to a small pile of dust.

You follow whatever, there are plenty of us been hang drying bud then selling it when flavour and taste come through without the need to jar or adjust air humidity which kinda flies in the face of those that do everything differently :-)
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inDC4now

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How do you know when its 10-15% moisture?
Buy a hygrometer and drop a bud and the meter into a jar. If the bud is still too moist you'll see the humidity increase quickly. As the bud dries, you'll need to leave the meter in the jar longer, as the meter will change more slowly, probably for several hours, maybe over night, before it settles.

I bought a four pack from Amazon for less than $14
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNMKYCZ/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_xTcWDbPT8FD3A

There are several great posts on Drying and Curing here at Roll It threads
https://www.rollitup.org/t/breaking-down-the-dry-and-cure.995712/

And this essay over on GrowWeedEasy:
https://www.growweedeasy.com/drying-curing
 

Bluephish

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Buy a hygrometer and drop a bud and the meter into a jar. If the bud is still too moist you'll see the humidity increase quickly. As the bud dries, you'll need to leave the meter in the jar longer, as the meter will change more slowly, probably for several hours, maybe over night, before it settles.

I bought a four pack from Amazon for less than $14
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNMKYCZ/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_xTcWDbPT8FD3A

There are several great posts on Drying and Curing here at Roll It threads
https://www.rollitup.org/t/breaking-down-the-dry-and-cure.995712/

And this essay over on GrowWeedEasy:
https://www.growweedeasy.com/drying-curing
You guys are awesome! Thank you
 
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