Drug testing for any LP employee's coming.

A source has told me the RCMP is working with the Harptler goons to get all employee's of LP's to be drug tested at random. This would include any owners who are on site. Even the janitor. If ya work there..ya get tested. If you have access...you get tested. After all, you can't have the pharmacist dipping into the treats..eh? They say there is too much room there to have the meds..go missing. Hahahahahah.
Well I'm think this is a great idea. Who else likes this.

Seems to make sense. After all if you work at the Percocet plant you just can't sample the pills to see if the product is any good and really works. And aren't these LP's growing medicine for patients afterall??
Maybe they should hire some med patients to sit around and "evaluate" the medicine....any volunteers. Med patients aren't breaking the law...like the LP's would be...correct.
Keep your hands outta the cookie jar now.

Even if this is true (extremely doubtful) I don't see this as being a major issue as many (if not most) LP employees are medical patients already. If this was pushed through, I am sure anyone working for an LP will just invest $280 in a Skype doc to protect their asses.

Random drug testing (relating to employment) is not permitted in Canada, only pre-employment, post-incident, or in the event of justifiable suspicion. Even airline pilots cannot be randomly tested, so there is zero chance they will be able to push anything through allowing LP employees to be. This is why they have the extensive background check, the security measures, and the extensive product tracking...to eliminate any issues in this area. If they want to find out who is stealing from their employers, a random drug test is probably the dumbest way to go about it, especially in this industry! There will be 2 years of video footage and ID scans to refer to in the event of any suspicious activity, so a drug test makes zero sense.

For the reasons mentioned, I put very little stock into this report that you got.....I'd check your sources

The Hippy said:

A source has told me the RCMP is working with the Harptler goons to get all employee's of LP's to be drug tested at random. This would include any owners who are on site. Even the janitor. If ya work there..ya get tested. If you have access...you get tested. After all, you can't have the pharmacist dipping into the treats..eh? They say there is too much room there to have the meds..go missing. Hahahahahah.
Well I'm think this is a great idea. Who else likes this.

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Not the people being tested. Expect a lot of job openings.

Well I don't really know how it work. No experience with this.
But how is it some truck drivers and other get tested. Maybe the company makes it a policy you have to agree with, or don't work there.. Someone here must know more about how some people end up getting tested in Canada. Oil rigs workers as well I think. Saw that on TV lol. The whole crew was randomly tested with no warning. They all had to do it or no work for you.

cmon hippy! find something else to do with your time.
rumours are lame

All I know is that random drug screening has been ruled to be unconstitutional and an invasion of privacy here in Canada. You can test before hiring someone (ie. your oil workers getting tested before getting sent to a new job), or after an incident, but not randomly. I work in a safety-sensitive position and have had to navigate the testing protocols, so I would know. Contract workers and subcontractors are an exception (some truck drivers, oil workers, etc) in that whenever you take a new contract or job with a new client, you would be subject to their pre-employment drug screening. Companies cannot have their own policies which contradict or contravene employment laws or the Charter of Human Rights, this would be illegal.

There was a big push to try and allow for random drug-screening in the Alberta oil-sands to cut down on the rampant abuse of hard drugs and the like.....no way in hell the unions or human rights types will allow it and for good reason. No one in this country wants to see random drug testing anywhere as that would be a scary precedent for everyone, not just LP employees....it definitely would not be something to take glee in as all Canadians would eventually pay.

And why would LP employees be any different from pharmaceutical employees working with much more dangerous, valuable, and addictive drugs such as opiates? These employees are not screened, and there would a much greater chance of abuse in those cases. Doctors and nurses are not tested either, and they have constant access to controlled drugs. I'm not sure who your source is, but I'm calling B.S. on this one, nothing to see here.

In actuality, most employers are going to have to do the opposite and relax their stance on marijuana as more and more employees will be legal patients moving forward. If they start denying people jobs or firing them after an incident due to using MMJ to treat a documented medical condition, there will be all sorts of lawsuits. Here's an interesting article on the subject:

http://www.canadianlawyermag.com/5131/Accommodating-medical-marijuana.html

you're not allowed to be a patient and work at grow shop? Why?

I'm going to bet...2/3rds, if not MORE, burn!

gb123 said:

you're not allowed to be a patient and work at grow shop? Why?

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You are, just the posting of nonsense rumours....disregard. This is example #1 of how bad info gets spread on these forums. If you don't know anything about a subject, don't blindly post whatever you happen to hear and frame it as being factual, which the title of this thread does. Also, for future reference, a stoned buddy rambling/ranting about MMPR program does not qualify as "a source" ......there are plenty of actual sources right here on RIU that are currently employed in the MMJ sector and would know of such things.

If a select few posters stopped blindly attacking every LP and prospective LP to paint them with the same black and white brush as Tweed, and instead tried engaging them in meaningful and rational discussion, then they might have some more credible/knowledgeable sources when it comes to topics such as this one.....

Just sayin'.

"a source" told you? just sayin...

Maybe they will have random testing, to make SURE the workers have enough cannabis in their system

OKLP said:

Maybe they will have random testing, to make SURE the workers have enough cannabis in their system

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I can't find the links right now, but I have read a couple of quotes from higher-ups of a couple of approved LP's responding to questions about employees smoking on the job, and in both instances the person asked basically said that it would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis and would depend on the employee having a prescription, and if they were able to properly/safely fulfill their duties after medicating on the job.

In the next few years, we are going to see companies in all sectors coming up with their own procedures and policies for dealing with MMJ. The biggest issue is going to involve people who work in safety-sensitive positions or whose position requires them to drive, as employers are going to have to accommodate these people and find them alternate duties. There are going to be some big court cases over issues like this in the coming years as both medical and eventually recreational use become more mainstream.

I see no problem with vape usage in the lunch room for authorized patients.

I thought labour was provincial? The reason I say that is up here, there was a company that tested everyone pre-employment then very shortly thereafter tested randomly and I remember distinctly that my friend was off work for 2 weeks and had to pass the piss test before he was allowed by. The industry is mining/environmental, and this was approximately 5 years ago? Is this something that happened in the last 5 years or did this company pull a fast one?

WHATFG said:

I thought labour was provincial? The reason I say that is up here, there was a company that tested everyone pre-employment then very shortly thereafter tested randomly and I remember distinctly that my friend was off work for 2 weeks and had to pass the piss test before he was allowed by. The industry is mining/environmental, and this was approximately 5 years ago? Is this something that happened in the last 5 years or did this company pull a fast one?

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I don't know the law in depth, I've always just known my rights as an employee. I've worked in almost every province and territory in Canada and this is the case everywhere I have worked, although I am not positive if it is covered by Federal or Provincial legislation. Some of labour is provincial, but I think this is more of a Charter issue which is federal. On a purely labor level, many people are actually in favour of testing in the name of worker safety.

I have worked in the forestry/environmental field for 15 years, and I suspect what happened in the case you mention is that there was an incident. A company will have a statute of limitations in that if you are working on shift, and there is an incident (safety or environmental) that is not discovered until after you leave for days off, that they can test all the employees that were involved in the incident within a set time frame. In the event of your friend, they could have found a spill or other infraction after the fact, and then hauled everyone back in for post-incident testing. I can almost guarantee that to be the case in your instance as it happens at my place of work all the time.

I don't see it happening, and if it does whomever supported it lives in lala land. (I'm talking LP employee testing).

The sad thing about most of these testing programs is that they push people away from marijuana and onto dangerous hard drugs. A lot of workers in the oil-sands are scared to smoke pot because of how long it remains detectable in your system.......every time you smoke a joint, you have to stress out and pray to god that someone doesn't fuck up at work for the next month otherwise your six-figure job just went down the tubes. Instead, people will smoke crack and meth because they are in and out of your system in a matter of days. Companies need to seriously rethink these ridiculous anti-MJ drug policies and get with the times as they are doing more harm than good.

Devil Lettuce said:

The sad thing about most of these testing programs is that they push people away from marijuana and onto dangerous hard drugs. A lot of workers in the oil-sands are scared to smoke pot because of how long it remains detectable in your system.......every time you smoke a joint, you have to stress out and pray to god that someone doesn't fuck up at work for the next month otherwise your six-figure job just went down the tubes. Instead, people will smoke crack and meth because they are in and out of your system in a matter of days. Companies need to seriously rethink these ridiculous anti-MJ drug policies and get with the times as they are doing more harm than good.

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Relax Lettuce head.....let your sphincter unpucker a bit. Don't sound so upset and worried.
I'm sure it's just a stupid rumor. I just happened to notice your "just sayin" so I'm "just sayin" ...we good now! It's a shame it was even said in the first place. Seems this place is full of false information from LP's and people like me...bad people. But thanks for letting us know you really don't know the law. Because I don't either.
So many sources...so little verification. sure makes a soul wonder what they can believe around here. Like I even heard there are fake reviews put on here by people pretending to be patients..but really aren't. They are rumored to be trying to make a killing off sick people....scum baggas

OKLP said:

"a source" told you? just sayin...

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Ya and what do you know?